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cmangene 05-25-2004 10:37 AM

SCARAB NINJA Special
 
I Just purchased a 1988 Scarab "Ninja SPecial" 34 foot

This boat looks brand new....Everything is perfect.

Twin 502's that have 200 Hours on them and run perfect.

Can anyone tell me anything about this edition of the SCARAB.

Where can I get info.
I have been told that there were only 16 of this edition made.

Thanks for help.

38KV 05-25-2004 02:26 PM

Re: SCARAB NINJA Special
 
Why don't you post a pic or two, we want to see your new ride. :D

BTW, welcome to OSO and congrats to your boat. :)

phughes69 05-26-2004 01:22 AM

Re: SCARAB NINJA Special
 
From what little I know, I think it is a flat deck version of the scarab III. I am constantly checking Boatrader.com for scarabs for sale and I have seen about three for sale in two years. There was one for sale on Ebay about 3 weeks ago. If I remember correctly it sold for around $35,000

34scarab 05-26-2004 05:02 AM

Re: SCARAB NINJA Special
 
I have the same boat!
I guess that account for 2 of them.
From what I know, heard, this was a limited run, but not too sure how limited. I gather there was some "copy right" infringement with the name "NINJA', Kawasaki comes to mind.
Anyway, they continued on with the hull, but dropped the NINJA for RAIDER.
I have seen them with OB's too.
It has Kevlar in the hull layup to lighten things up.
it is a pretty fast hull for its day.
For me, I have owned mine since 92.
I love the ride in the rough water.
It is a beast.
Due to transom problem, damn, I went through a major overhaul and update of the boat back in 98.
You'd never recognize it today.
Good luck and happy boating.

Scott

robyw1 05-26-2004 10:34 PM

Re: SCARAB NINJA Special
 
pictures my good man, pictures

:) Roby

nspyder454 05-29-2004 10:39 AM

Re: SCARAB NINJA Special
 
Hi, I'm new here too. when at wellcraft site I saw in the resource section a kind of car type window sticker for the boats that were produced and the options that could of come with them. I did see your boat there when I looked for mine. I thought your boat was interesting and unique. There wasn't much history but specs none the less. I dont know if you saw my post 'new to oso' I posted some pics there, its a limited edtion also, 1988 nova spyder topgun edition, which I was told there was 11 made. Post some pics of your boat! Oh ,anyone know anymore about my boat?

glassdave 06-03-2004 04:53 PM

Re: SCARAB NINJA Special
 
hey, there is one of those across the river from me here in Toledo. i always wondered about the name ninja of the side boat. i didnt know it was a factory edition. really good looking boat. the flat deck looks good on that. havent seen it yet this year but i will see if i can get some pics. this one is a VERY nice original.


i'm guess'n that accounts for 3 now :D

saki 05-24-2007 01:00 PM

Hi everyone,i'm new here at oso .I found this topic and wanted to write that i have also a 1988 Wellcraft Scarab Ninja 34 Foot here in Finland.I've just purchased the boat but i'm very pleased :D Engines are twin 454 Magnum with a bit more power than standard.The color is white with red/black stripes... So now you can count one more to the Ninjas ;)

Scarab3DMC 05-24-2007 02:05 PM

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ninja...:D :evilb: :drink:

963b 05-25-2007 05:26 PM

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I must be no.4 I posted more pics in this forum under info on a scarab3 (1st page). Wellcraft sent me all the info they had on this model. The guy told me he thaught 62 of them were made. I do have a copy of the spec sheet I'll try to post a pic of it.

963b 05-25-2007 05:32 PM

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Here ya go!

MikeyFIN 05-26-2007 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by saki (Post 2139267)
Hi everyone,i'm new here at oso .I found this topic and wanted to write that i have also a 1988 Wellcraft Scarab Ninja 34 Foot here in Finland.I've just purchased the boat but i'm very pleased :D Engines are twin 454 Magnum with a bit more power than standard.The color is white with red/black stripes... So now you can count one more to the Ninjas ;)

The weight sure sounds light compared to a 38KV ?
Only 5100????
How´s that, any info here???
I´m told Kevlar Scarabs (38KV) are only 600lbs lighter than standards?

Saki.
I drove the boat the night before you got it to the docks for transport (you got it next to our construction rental outlet at Sompa)...:drink:
Checked the engines etc for the seller just to be sure the deal turns out ok.
You got a great buy although I myself would´ve liked some more options on that boat (K-planes, trim gauges and some small things)
My Dad did an offer on that same boat while it was brand new so I have known about its whereabouts the whole time.
The deck is a bit wavy thou and the electrics needs a little freshening (WD-40 will do wonders here and there) and you´ve got a Great boat there for a nice price.

Don´t you ever paint the bottom...get a trailer for it.

PS did you adjust the valves and timing like I suggested..just to be sure, call me at 040-501-3951 if you need any info.

saki 05-28-2007 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by MikeyFIN (Post 2141133)
The weight sure sounds light compared to a 38KV ?
Only 5100????
How´s that, any info here???
I´m told Kevlar Scarabs (38KV) are only 600lbs lighter than standards?

Saki.
I drove the boat the night before you got it to the docks for transport (you got it next to our construction rental outlet at Sompa)...:drink:
Checked the engines etc for the seller just to be sure the deal turns out ok.
You got a great buy although I myself would´ve liked some more options on that boat (K-planes, trim gauges and some small things)
My Dad did an offer on that same boat while it was brand new so I have known about its whereabouts the whole time.
The deck is a bit wavy thou and the electrics needs a little freshening (WD-40 will do wonders here and there) and you´ve got a Great boat there for a nice price.

Don´t you ever paint the bottom...get a trailer for it.

PS did you adjust the valves and timing like I suggested..just to be sure, call me at 040-501-3951 if you need any info.

Hi Mikey. Okay,so the world is so small that we meet right here :) .The boat is great und runs good.Lots of "freshening" is about to happen,new vinyls,new gauges etc. etc. and also the mentioned WD-40 will come in handy :D We wont paint the bottom,but we also dont have a trailer for it,but the boat will run so much that those wont be necessary :D We did check both engines and changed new sparks and "tulpanjohdot" etc. etc. The only worry we have,is that the right hand engine behind the driver is only firing up 7 cylinders...We dont know why yet,but we checked both engines compressions and all was ok except one cylinder was a bit lower than the rest of them... Otherwise the boat and engines are good and it runs nice. Thanks for the number,it is nice to have someone to call if troubles come up ;) .

963b 05-28-2007 04:37 PM

Lets see some pics !!

saki 05-28-2007 06:36 PM

Here's one bad picture about my scarab.Cleaning and mint condition is still far away but today we got much done,but no new pictures yet :(

http://kuvake.net/profile.php?userna...1&folder_id=-1

963b 05-28-2007 06:52 PM

Cool boat , does it still have the same graghics?

saki 05-28-2007 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by 963b (Post 2142789)
Cool boat , does it still have the same graghics?

thx...Yes the graphics are still the same,but i'm seriously thinking of changing them...The boat is now cleaned and washed perfectly and has been polished so it looks good,or at least better than in that picture :D The vinyls are going to be made new and other little stuff... Oh and that targa is coming off as soon as i get my hands on it...Doesn't look good cause it's not white and made from plastic/glassfiber...

saki 05-28-2007 07:08 PM

Here is another one on the trailer and more clean ;)

http://kuvake.net/profile.php?userna...7&folder_id=-1

963b 05-28-2007 08:09 PM

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Latest pic of mine.Got it all buffed out and installed the windshield today. Still not sure what graphics to put on it. I'm thinkin something " Tribel" silver and purple with the scarab lettering done in Aluminum tread plate? What do ya think?

963b 05-28-2007 08:18 PM

Co'mon 34 scarab and cman ! pics please!!!

saki 05-29-2007 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by 963b (Post 2142897)
Latest pic of mine.Got it all buffed out and installed the windshield today. Still not sure what graphics to put on it. I'm thinkin something " Tribel" silver and purple with the scarab lettering done in Aluminum tread plate? What do ya think?

Nice looking boat with black hull :) The graphics idea sounds also great !First thought that i would keep the original graphics but change the colors...But have also an idea of using barbed wire graph with red and silver colors...Difficult to decide :D If anyone has ideas just put them out here ;)

MikeyFIN 05-29-2007 04:39 AM

Saki.
Check them valves..one might float alittle, hence the low comp on one cyl, about the firing problem, new sparkplugs, sparkplug wires, distributor cap and stator should do the trick.
If it has floated long enough a valve might have burnt (an exhaust in this case) but I doubt it.
Like I said that engine was the one I was more worried about.

Check also that the exhaust manifolds and neck doesn´t leak into the exhaust->cylinders...sure way to totally destroy an engine is neglecting that, especially every fall you should take them off.
It has only 8 hrs on the engines so I never went higher than 3000 with them..they barely got warm on an hours drive...(remember that one...no up to plane for the first 30 minutes in our cold waters)
I´d keep the original graphics/maybe different colours and paint/vinyl the rear all gloss black (a´la early Cigarettes) and lose that swim step...but thenagain I´m a hardcore oldschooler so don´t listen to me :-)

PS just for the heck of it...look at this one...
Black Ninja

34scarab 05-29-2007 05:31 AM

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Here is my baby.
Notice the fiberglass windscreen.
Custom graphics and all.
Updated in 98.

senzaspectre 05-29-2007 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by 963b (Post 2142897)
Latest pic of mine.Got it all buffed out and installed the windshield today. Still not sure what graphics to put on it. I'm thinkin something " Tribel" silver and purple with the scarab lettering done in Aluminum tread plate? What do ya think?



LOOOKS NICE...

I WOULD KEEP IN KINDA OLD SCHOOL LOOKIN...

saki 05-29-2007 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by MikeyFIN (Post 2143139)
Saki.
Check them valves..one might float alittle, hence the low comp on one cyl, about the firing problem, new sparkplugs, sparkplug wires, distributor cap and stator should do the trick.
If it has floated long enough a valve might have burnt (an exhaust in this case) but I doubt it.
Like I said that engine was the one I was more worried about.

Check also that the exhaust manifolds and neck doesn´t leak into the exhaust->cylinders...sure way to totally destroy an engine is neglecting that, especially every fall you should take them off.
It has only 8 hrs on the engines so I never went higher than 3000 with them..they barely got warm on an hours drive...(remember that one...no up to plane for the first 30 minutes in our cold waters)
I´d keep the original graphics/maybe different colours and paint/vinyl the rear all gloss black (a´la early Cigarettes) and lose that swim step...but thenagain I´m a hardcore oldschooler so don´t listen to me :-)

PS just for the heck of it...look at this one...
Black Ninja


Hi,thanks for the complete info...We do have at the time more and moe problems with the right hand engine,the one behind the driver's seat.We have changed spark plugs,spark plug wires,"virranjakan kansi,pyörijät".We discovered at the first when we got the boat,when we were measuring "puristukset" that one of the spark plug wires was cut off/broken.The same cylinder,where this wire was broken,had not more than just under 8 ,where the other cylinders gave results of 11 .

Then there was also a problem with the choke,it was forced to be open/on.Why would this be ???
If possible,we can continue writing and also maybe in Finnish so it is easier,here is my email : [email protected] .

963b 05-29-2007 06:42 PM

34 scarab That looks awsome!! Where did you find the windscreen? or did you have it made?

Baja_Bigdog 05-29-2007 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by 34scarab (Post 977568)
I have the same boat!
I guess that account for 2 of them.
From what I know, heard, this was a limited run, but not too sure how limited. I gather there was some "copy right" infringement with the name "NINJA', Kawasaki comes to mind.
Anyway, they continued on with the hull, but dropped the NINJA for RAIDER.
I have seen them with OB's too.
It has Kevlar in the hull layup to lighten things up.
it is a pretty fast hull for its day.
For me, I have owned mine since 92.
I love the ride in the rough water.
It is a beast.
Due to transom problem, damn, I went through a major overhaul and update of the boat back in 98.
You'd never recognize it today.
Good luck and happy boating.

Scott

Hey Scott,

Did anyone ever put a cardboard sign on your boat with the word "Formula" on it??

MikeyFIN 05-30-2007 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by 963b (Post 2144155)
34 scarab That looks awsome!! Where did you find the windscreen? or did you have it made?

Sakis boat has a fiberglass fairing from day one..so guess thats an option like the interior on that boat ?

Rock Steady 05-31-2007 01:21 PM

Interesting.....

34scarab 05-31-2007 01:31 PM

Outlaw30, Nope. Maybe a Cig emblem though.

963b: Thanks, through a lot of tedious work, including repalcing the transom, I fabricated it myself. It has held up extremely well over 10 yrs. of use. I do get a lot of compliments on it. It even has an enclsed head now too!

MikeyFIN: To the best of my knowledge, the NiNJA never was offered with a FG windscreen. May be wrong, but I'd bet $$ on it.

Baja_Bigdog 05-31-2007 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by 34scarab (Post 2146474)
Outlaw30, Nope. Maybe a Cig emblem though.

963b: Thanks, through a lot of tedious work, including repalcing the transom, I fabricated it myself. It has held up extremely well over 10 yrs. of use. I do get a lot of compliments on it. It even has an enclsed head now too!

MikeyFIN: To the best of my knowledge, the NiNJA never was offered with a FG windscreen. May be wrong, but I'd bet $$ on it.

Ahhh.....I think you may be wrong.....think back to your old yellow Stingray????:D

MikeyFIN 06-01-2007 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by 34scarab (Post 2146474)

MikeyFIN: To the best of my knowledge, the NiNJA never was offered with a FG windscreen. May be wrong, but I'd bet $$ on it.

Gimme your Money then:evilb: :evilb:
I´ve known Sakis boat since it came from the factory, and YES it has had a fiberglass screen from factory.
It´s also a Kevlar Ninja.
(Yes I´ve checked the serial numbers on it too).
The screen has even Wellcraft logos on it if memory serves correct.

34scarab 06-04-2007 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by Outlaw_30 (Post 2147010)
Ahhh.....I think you may be wrong.....think back to your old yellow Stingray????:D

Uh, yeah, but that was past last weekend so...How do you know of the the old Stingray?

34scarab 06-04-2007 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by MikeyFIN (Post 2147109)
Gimme your Money then:evilb: :evilb:
I´ve known Sakis boat since it came from the factory, and YES it has had a fiberglass screen from factory.
It´s also a Kevlar Ninja.
(Yes I´ve checked the serial numbers on it too).
The screen has even Wellcraft logos on it if memory serves correct.

Mikey,
I can't be 100% sure (like I am on the windscreen) but I think all Ninjas were kevelar. Mine is, and I witnessed that upon drilling into the transom.
And , yes, there is a raised portion just in front of the dash, which was all integral tot he original layup. It did have the word SCARAB on it, but this was to provide some room in the cabin in the sitting area. They had the aluminum, flat glassed windsheild on all of them. I built mine up just about 2" shorter than the original glass height. I'll try and get some before and after pictuures and post.
I'll need that $$ now.......:)

Baja_Bigdog 06-04-2007 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by 34scarab (Post 2149683)
Uh, yeah, but that was past last weekend so...How do you know of the the old Stingray?

I used to boat with you when you had the Stingray...I put the cardboard "Formula" on your Stingray. You have ridden on my old Formula 272 SR1....and you were looking for a Formula, hense the cardboard sign. Now do you know who this is?? :drink:

34scarab 06-04-2007 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Outlaw_30 (Post 2150144)
I used to boat with you when you had the Stingray...I put the cardboard "Formula" on your Stingray. You have ridden on my old Formula 272 SR1....and you were looking for a Formula, hense the cardboard sign. Now do you know who this is?? :drink:

Let me guess......Matt?

Baja_Bigdog 06-04-2007 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by 34scarab (Post 2150313)
Let me guess......Matt?

Hey...you guessed it....I had to give you alot of clues though :p
How are you doing, Scott?? I saw the pic of your boat...it looks really good. You see much of Ray? He sent me pics of the new Fountain...man that is huge!

Matt

MikeyFIN 06-05-2007 02:41 AM


Originally Posted by 34scarab (Post 2149689)
Mikey,
I can't be 100% sure (like I am on the windscreen) but I think all Ninjas were kevelar. Mine is, and I witnessed that upon drilling into the transom.
And , yes, there is a raised portion just in front of the dash, which was all integral tot he original layup. It did have the word SCARAB on it, but this was to provide some room in the cabin in the sitting area. They had the aluminum, flat glassed windsheild on all of them. I built mine up just about 2" shorter than the original glass height. I'll try and get some before and after pictuures and post.
I'll need that $$ now.......:)

So you ain´t betting anything about that FG fairing..FYI it´s 100% identical to the ones on a 38KV.
Look at the pics Saki provided.

Hmm All Ninjas Kevlar reinforced then....there might be some finds if one wants a fast boat...A Ninja hull blueprinted some nice 496/502´s maybe blown and sportmaster drives if Bravos are original if TRS then Konrad or why not a TRS or Bravo Arneson conversion...

The key is low weight here...

bluess02 05-22-2012 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by 34scarab (Post 2143155)
Here is my baby.
Notice the fiberglass windscreen.
Custom graphics and all.
Updated in 98.

are you still a member on here? still have the boat? I just got an '87 with outboards.... looking for info, pics, ideas, and such of what to do with her!

34scarab 05-22-2012 04:31 PM

Yep. Believe it or not, still got the old Scarab. She hangs on a lift in my backyard. Shame, doesn't get used as much anymore. Priority change. My running the 525 SC's and still turns heads. Let me know if I can help at all.

Scott


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