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ernie davis 04-01-2005 01:49 PM

38 Scarab
 
Looking at doing some horse trading on an '81 Flat Deck 38 Scarab O/S. Looks like a KV, but doen't have the KV in/under or around the hull number.
It has (2) dyno'd 540's which seem to produce 550 hp through velvet drives and TRS's :D

Question:
Any guess's as to what kinda top speed?
Not the most important thing, but kinda currious.

Uncle Ernie
(soon to be a Scarab guy....don't tell the Cigarette section :eek: :drink: ).

Rookie 04-03-2005 09:50 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
No clue as to the speed, but welcome to the dark side.

ernie davis 04-04-2005 01:21 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
Thanks........It was beginning to feel a little cold in here :D :drink: :D

Scarab3DMC 04-04-2005 02:08 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
my guess...hi-60's to mid 70's

ernie davis 04-04-2005 02:13 PM

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Yeah, I was kinda hoping to have a steady 72-74mph with the sticks to the wall, maybe a 46-52mph cruise. :D :drink: :D
This B*#ch is heeeeaaaaavvy. But it's a good kinda heavy :evilb:

Scarab3DMC 04-04-2005 02:20 PM

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Yeah Ernie..your on Lake Erie...you need that heavy boat when that "Walleye chop" kicks up..We have alot of Scarabs on the lake...we gotta get them all togeather.. heres mine :evilb:

ernie davis 04-04-2005 02:35 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
Sweet -3,
Budget will keep me in the existing colors for a this season any way.
I'll have to compress a picture or two........... :D

Scarab3DMC 04-04-2005 03:34 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
Ernie I forgot the power..I'm running 1996 crate 502's w/ Weiland 177's/1050 Dominators..TRS..Pushing 75mph on gps

ernie davis 04-08-2005 04:04 PM

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Used to be TizBad's boat......gonna be mine now.

eyezlee 04-08-2005 05:46 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
Nice, I love the old flat deck boats.

kaama82 04-11-2005 01:53 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
I've got an 1982 with 496's alum heads, 26 bravo ones props, You should expect an honest 70.

ernie davis 04-11-2005 01:56 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 

Originally Posted by kaama82
I've got an 1982 with 496's alum heads, 26 bravo ones props, You should expect an honest 70.


Thanks kamma ! That was going to be the next question.
I'm buying the big ol' beast with re-built TRS and Veltvet Drives, but no props. 26's should be a good place to start :drink: .
What do you cruize @ speed wise with those wheels?

kaama82 04-14-2005 09:52 AM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
3200 to 3400 rpm anywhere from 45 to 51 mph, depending on the water. Any more questions let me know? I live in Ida, Mi.

ernie davis 04-14-2005 10:20 AM

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Sweeeeet. :evilb:
That's kinda what I was hopeing for.
We'll have to get together sometime this summer and scare the locals. :D

ernie davis 04-19-2005 01:37 PM

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Goooooooooo KAAMA :drink:

ernie davis 04-21-2005 09:20 AM

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Bette Cooke?

chuckgo6 10-06-2005 06:21 PM

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my 38' Scarab KV does a honest 74mph on the GPS it has twin 496's dyno at 550hp with trs drives ad 26 prop's.I think there is more in it in the rite water still getting use to the boat just bought it this year and LOVE IT!

glassdave 10-06-2005 08:53 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
good info Chuck, what year is your boat? coincedentally. . . i am upgrading to a 38KV at this very time :D :D what kind of props are you running? got any pics :cool:


im thinking about hy-jacking this thread :drink: :drink:

ernie davis 10-07-2005 04:17 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
See how you are? :p
Yeah, but who's KV are you upgrading to? :drink: :eek: :drink:
Found those "papers" we were looking for.
Appears I have the Dyno Sheets / invoices / warranties for the 540's.
Bring 'em over this week end.......... we'll talk......:D

glassdave 10-07-2005 07:07 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
:cool: cool

ernie davis 10-12-2005 04:32 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
Here's a question.
If the Wellcraft Serial number ends in the word, KAAMA, does it mean anything different from it being a KV or 377 Flat Deck?
Just curious.

glassdave 10-12-2005 11:33 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
yea . . . me to :drink:

phughes69 10-13-2005 10:13 AM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
Ernie + Dave, your hull vin's end with the word KAAMA? I will have to take a look at my hull # to see it it says the same thing.

ernie davis 10-19-2005 05:09 PM

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phughes69.....did ya ever check your seriel numbers on your boat :D
and let's watch the "Ernie + Dave" thing.....people will talk around here :drink: :eek: :drink:

glassdave 10-20-2005 10:54 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
hey . . you could do alot worse cupcake :p :drink:

phughes69 10-25-2005 01:34 AM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
I checked my hull # over the weekend and this is what I found
WELA4649V80F-377

My boat has race hatches and 475 HP turbo/speedmaster motors, but no Kaama on the hull sides of anywhere in the engine compartment. So is mine a Kaama or not? Were Kaama's available in 1980? Maybe MikeJ knows?

JJONES 10-25-2005 06:45 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
sounds like a wellcraft and a 1980 boat,the last 2 dig. of the hull number are the year of the boat!thats with all boats!the first dig. are usually the manufacture code or ID!

phughes69 10-26-2005 12:01 AM

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Ernie, what is your hull id #?

ernie davis 10-26-2005 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by phughes69
Ernie, what is your hull id #?

WELA6759M81E KAAMA
Letters are of same size/font and appear to be original.
Race Hatches, flat deck, fairing instead of glass shield and TRS's. Hull does have a notched transom. Some seem to, others do not.

Not sure what the diff. is, but the 475 Turbo motors are hot no mater. :D

OBNOXUS21 10-27-2005 01:21 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
HAd my '82 for 4 seasons now and love it :evilb: Unfortunately going to have to sell after repowering this winter :(

29scarab 10-27-2005 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OBNOXUS21
HAd my '82 for 4 seasons now and love it :evilb: Unfortunately going to have to sell after repowering this winter :(

Why you having to sell her after the new power? Post some pics of that beast! :D

I'll be going bigger in a couple of years.

djlenny 10-28-2005 12:01 AM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
I don't mean to be a hijacker but has anyone seen this?

http://www.lake-minnetonka.net/scarab.htm

29scarab 10-28-2005 06:39 AM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
Gotta luv the SCARAB!!! What a ride!! :D

stinger312 10-28-2005 08:27 AM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
My memory is a little fuzzy but Wellcraft made a KAAMA edition Scarab to celebrate Betty's winning the national championship some had KAAMA US-1 decals on the sides under the faring

glassdave 10-30-2005 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by djlenny
I don't mean to be a hijacker but has anyone seen this?

http://www.lake-minnetonka.net/scarab.htm


great link thanks! :cool: :cool:

bam7722 11-15-2005 11:38 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
hey I found a nice project boat, and by project i am being nice to it. the poor owners had no clue on how to care for her. Anyhow, the TRS drives are GONE...misplaced. Where can I get a set of good ones cheap? email me back please [email protected]

Cig35Mistress 11-17-2005 01:07 AM

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Dave:

TRS drives and cheap is an oxymoron. The parts are becoming increasingly scarce and the prices on rebuilt units are not coming down either. When you inquired about our 39' Stinger project for sale, I told you all about the TRS drives. Given the horsepower and torque of the stock 454/400 Cyclones, the TRS drives should be bulletproof. There is no sense in replacing them with Bravos at this stage of the game, because there are other variables, i.e. engine placement, etc., and especially Bravo III's as you mentioned, which are not appropriate for this type of boat. The only logical replacement drive for the TRS is a Konrad, and they will run almost $20k for the pair last time I checked. With that in mind, I don't think they are in your price range considering you were supposedly shuffling money around, sending me a deposit and picking the boat up this past weekend. I spent an awful lot of time discussing this boat with you and for a change I'm just left hanging.

Harry

JJONES 11-17-2005 11:21 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 
OOO,NAUGHTY NAUGHTY!NOT GOOD BUISNESS! :eek: :eek:

Cig35Mistress 11-18-2005 09:55 AM

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I just didn't want to see any other OSO brothers get jerked around as I did. I must have spent 10 hours on the phone and emailing back and forth with "BAM" (Dave) reassuring me what a "serious" buyer he was and how badly he wanted the boat. Not trying to libel him here, just stating the facts so others will take proper care.

satisfactionII 11-18-2005 01:22 PM

Re: 38 Scarab
 

Originally Posted by djlenny
I don't mean to be a hijacker but has anyone seen this?

http://www.lake-minnetonka.net/scarab.htm

Great looking Scarab. Thanks for the link. My dream boat! :drink: :drink: :drink:


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