B&M 174 on a 454
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454, gm forged cranks, rods, arp bolts, srp pistons, dart marine alum heads, hyd roller cam (238/246 600+ lift) 8.5 compression, b&m 174's. What kind of power should it make??
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I think the hawk 525's dynoed around 525HP using the iron gm heads, hyd flat tappet cams, and lower Compression, and the 174 blowers from what I gather.
I would like to think with the better flowing alum heads, little more compression, and a hydraulic roller cam with more lift and duration than the hawk 525 cam, should be worth a few ponies, no?
I would think a naturally aspirated version of the above build with alum heads and roller cam, would make close to 500HP? Didnt the HP450 run a hyd roller cam and gm heads to make 450HP@ the prop?
I would like to think with the better flowing alum heads, little more compression, and a hydraulic roller cam with more lift and duration than the hawk 525 cam, should be worth a few ponies, no?
I would think a naturally aspirated version of the above build with alum heads and roller cam, would make close to 500HP? Didnt the HP450 run a hyd roller cam and gm heads to make 450HP@ the prop?
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Correction, sorry, they are 177 blowers, cam is a 236/245 629/632 on a 114 lsa. Stellings headers.
Would a chiller be a good idea? For reliablity purposes, and a few more HP doesnt hurt either. Mainly looking to keep the motors together for a little while.
Would a chiller be a good idea? For reliablity purposes, and a few more HP doesnt hurt either. Mainly looking to keep the motors together for a little while.
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Thats a pretty big cam for a 454. You should spin the engine up to about 5800 to make max hp.
A chiller will help reduce the heat created by the smaller blower. It will allow you run more boost and make more hp.
How fast are you spinning the blower???? Recommended max rpm for the blower is 12,500-13000rpms.
A chiller will help reduce the heat created by the smaller blower. It will allow you run more boost and make more hp.
How fast are you spinning the blower???? Recommended max rpm for the blower is 12,500-13000rpms.
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Hawks were rated at 525 horse, was told they made closer to 540 horse. The guy I bought mine from, replaced them with merc 525s and the boat was 3 mph slower. Actually had to install coolers and bump the boost to get back to where he was with the Hawks.
The Hawks were 420 mercs (8.75:1), the merc 525s were (7.5:1).
The Hawks were 420 mercs (8.75:1), the merc 525s were (7.5:1).



