How to tell if there was reversion/or leak with headers?
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I have lightning headers.
I ripped apart the motor and one cylinder had some light rust streaks in cylinder. If reversion, I would imagine it would be more then one cylinder. engine builder said might be header leak.
Would the header show a discolor where the water would sit in it if it had a leak? None discolored.
Or if it just could have been from sitting outside for a few days. After I pulled the heads water ran down into the cylinders(Forgot to drain block). I did not look it over real close the day I ripped it apart.
Thanks
I ripped apart the motor and one cylinder had some light rust streaks in cylinder. If reversion, I would imagine it would be more then one cylinder. engine builder said might be header leak.
Would the header show a discolor where the water would sit in it if it had a leak? None discolored.
Or if it just could have been from sitting outside for a few days. After I pulled the heads water ran down into the cylinders(Forgot to drain block). I did not look it over real close the day I ripped it apart.
Thanks
#5
Ray is correct, pressure test them off the motor. If you send them back to Lightning Jan will test them for you I'm sure, he has a nice jig for it. Reversion usually causes some heavy corrosion in the exhaust ports if you've been running it in that condition.
#6
Just curious why it is necessary to test them off the engine? Will a leak not show up, or is it just easier to spot a leak?
#7
They usually test them by pressurizing with air and submerging in a water tank and look for bubbles just like you would with a radiator or tire. It's allot easier to do this off the engines. 
Remember, the leaks that you're after are inside the header not on the outer jacket.

Remember, the leaks that you're after are inside the header not on the outer jacket.
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They usually test them by pressurizing with air and submerging in a water tank and look for bubbles just like you would with a radiator or tire. It's allot easier to do this off the engines. 
Remember, the leaks that you're after are inside the header not on the outer jacket.

Remember, the leaks that you're after are inside the header not on the outer jacket.
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1) attach a water hose (with a closing valve, I suppose) to the inlet which leads to each cylinder exhaust;
2) attach a pressure gauge to the outlet on top of the header;
3) open water and pressurize (30 psi, or what? The gauge doesn't go above 25 in normal usage);
4) close the valve on the water hose;
5) check for pressure losses after several (how many?) minutes.
Is the above correct, or am I missing something?
I understand it would be better to test them off the block, but I'd rather not remove them for nothing...
Besides, any recommendations specific to CMI sport tubes on 496 HO?
Thanks in advance!
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[QUOTE=mapism;2995597]Just to check if I got it right:
1) attach a water hose (with a closing valve, I suppose) to the inlet which leads to each cylinder exhaust;
2) attach a pressure gauge to the outlet on top of the header;
3) open water and pressurize (30 psi, or what? The gauge doesn't go above 25 in normal usage);
4) close the valve on the water hose;
5) check for pressure losses after several (how many?) minutes.
Is the above correct, or am I missing something?
I understand it would be better to test them off the block, but I'd rather not remove them for nothing...
Besides, any recommendations specific to CMI sport tubes on 496 HO?
That is the way I did it. My hose water pressure was approx. 40 psi, which should replicate or exceed conditions seen on the water. I watched each one for maybe 5 minutes and no change in pressure was noted. I figured if there was a leak it would have been obvious fairly quickly. Good luck and I don't have any additional insight into 496's.
1) attach a water hose (with a closing valve, I suppose) to the inlet which leads to each cylinder exhaust;
2) attach a pressure gauge to the outlet on top of the header;
3) open water and pressurize (30 psi, or what? The gauge doesn't go above 25 in normal usage);
4) close the valve on the water hose;
5) check for pressure losses after several (how many?) minutes.
Is the above correct, or am I missing something?
I understand it would be better to test them off the block, but I'd rather not remove them for nothing...
Besides, any recommendations specific to CMI sport tubes on 496 HO?
That is the way I did it. My hose water pressure was approx. 40 psi, which should replicate or exceed conditions seen on the water. I watched each one for maybe 5 minutes and no change in pressure was noted. I figured if there was a leak it would have been obvious fairly quickly. Good luck and I don't have any additional insight into 496's.


