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Old 12-03-2009 | 12:12 PM
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I'm getting closer to assembling my 427 bbc. I have a concern about the rods that I have. They are factory BBC truck rods with ARP bolts. I'm going to be spinning this at 6100 rpms. The longest I may have the boat at this RPM is going to be for no longer than 3 minutes. Are these rods good enough for this or should I really go for something stronger and lighter like a manley h rod? The crank is a forged GM crank and the pistons are Forged Speed Pros. Money is a factor so if I don't need to replace these I'd like to use them. But on the same hand I don't want to be cheap and destroy the engine.
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Which rods are they? is their a dimple on them? what size are the rod bolts,3/8 or 7/16?
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Old 12-03-2009 | 02:49 PM
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There is no dimple. These are the "thumb" rods that are used in trucks. They are ARP 3/8 bolts. I want to play it safe on this part but on the same hand I don't want to waste money if what I have is fine.
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Old 12-03-2009 | 05:27 PM
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There is no dimple. These are the "thumb" rods that are used in trucks. They are ARP 3/8 bolts. I want to play it safe on this part but on the same hand I don't want to waste money if what I have is fine.
You need the Dimple forged rods with 7/16 ARP bolts. or a set of aftermarket ones with 7/16 bolts
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Old 12-03-2009 | 05:31 PM
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I would be hard pressed to use those stock truck rods for 3 minutes at 6,100 RPM's. Then again, 3 minutes seems like a long time for most anything. You will always worry about them. I would change them out and be safe. If they go at 6,100 RPMs it will be a lot more expensive.
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Old 12-03-2009 | 05:37 PM
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I don't think the dimple are much better. I know I've read that you can push them up to 7K but that for seconds. Three minutes is a long time at 6100, i do agree with that. What do you guys suggest? You have to remember a 427 spinning at 6100 is WAY different that spinning a 496 at 5500. 427's like to rev, but on the same hand I want to build this right the first time.
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Get the forged HBeam rods.
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Old 12-03-2009 | 05:57 PM
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I don't think the dimple are much better. I know I've read that you can push them up to 7K but that for seconds. Three minutes is a long time at 6100, i do agree with that. What do you guys suggest? You have to remember a 427 spinning at 6100 is WAY different that spinning a 496 at 5500. 427's like to rev, but on the same hand I want to build this right the first time.
3/8 rod at 6100 equals KABOOM.7/16 is a must,if you plan on 500 hp or more,buy some h beam rods.as they say SEE
ME KNOW OR PAY ME LATER.
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Old 12-03-2009 | 06:42 PM
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Ok so ditch the rods. Are the Manleys over kill? They're rated for 8000 rpms and 900 hp. I'm planning on 550 and 6100 rpms. Any suggestions?
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Ok so ditch the rods. Are the Manleys over kill? They're rated for 8000 rpms and 900 hp. I'm planning on 550 and 6100 rpms. Any suggestions?

You can never have overkill on rods or crank. Don't skimp and get Eagle H Beams--> They will stick through the block just like a stock rod if not easier. my bilge pump pumped more oil than it did water when we used Eagles rods, and the sound of a rod breaking at 5500+ rpm is interesting, and expensive, get the good sh*t, it'll last through several motors.
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