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Old 06-23-2014 | 09:24 PM
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Hi, I have a 88 Four Winns Liberator 211 with a 350 omc cobra drive. (Says king cobra on the hydraulic arms but doesnt have the distinct hump) A few years back when I originally purchased the boat it would run around 4600rpm-4700rpm at 57mph using a 14x3/4 SST stainless prop. Now on a freshly built motor running tbe same prop im only getting 4400rpm at 48mph. This is quite frusterating, and it comes out of the hole the same which I think it has a good hole shot. I talked to my engine builder and he said I should be able to run around 4700rpm-4800rpm. Below is some more info on my set-up if at all interested. The outdrive was rebuilt 2 years ago with the heavy duty gears, stock ratio still.


On a tired motor last summer I got a good deal on a weiand 142 blower and decided to put it on, knowing my motor was tired, I knew it wouldnt last long. After a couple hard test runs with the blower I blew a head gasket. I pulled the motor and had it mildly built by a well known local engine builder. Its bored 30over, has a mild cam that matches my edelbrock aluminum heads and intake, msd distributor and coil along with a new edelbrock 600 carb topped with a marine k&n air filter. Timing is set at 12º advanced and 37º total timing.

Thank you for your time and I'm looking forward to your suggestions
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Your first motor must have been warmed up a bit, 211s don't run 57 with stock 350s

Trust me I owned one...
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Old 06-23-2014 | 09:48 PM
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It had a mild cam, the same aluminum heads and intake and that was it. It went 57mph consistantly with 2-3ppl in the boat on a garmin gps. My father and I got to meet the Winn brothers back 3-4 years ago, one was handicapped from a snowmobile accident and lived a few citys away from me (he passed away a year or two ago), the other was up from down south and went for a ride with my father and I on my boat, he was saying that stock from the factory it should go 55mph.
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Old 06-23-2014 | 10:25 PM
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Question . Was your engine builder a car guy ? Not trying to be smart but this happens a lot with parts being mismatched for marine duty . Your timing should be 34* total . Take the K&N off and see if it picks up . I like mechanical secondary carbs for marine duty .

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Old 06-23-2014 | 10:36 PM
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Yes he is a car guy. He only works on rare vintage race cars and one of a kind cars as he used to race his numbers matching shelby cobra. He does anything from engine rebuilds to full restoration. My father has know him for over 20yrs. I had many conversations with him about my motor and I am confident he did the research and built my motor with the correct parts for the application it is being used for but I could be completly wrong too. im open to any and all ideas, suggestions, and questions.
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Old 06-23-2014 | 10:41 PM
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Mechanical secondary carbs? I should note that the carb is new with the rebuild, its not the original carb that was on the tired motor.
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Kyle , you would be better served to post your question in the Technical section under General Questions . List specifics like head type , cam specs and what exhaust is on your engine . Yes , what works well in a car will not work in a boat . I have been down that road with my old 88' Four Winns 210 Horizon . Ended up building a 383ci stroker for it . Anyway lots of experienced guys hang in that section to answer your questions .

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Old 06-23-2014 | 11:02 PM
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ok, I will post it in that section tomorrow. Thank you for you help and replies!!
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