HP 500 oil cooler upgrade
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So my HP 500 is being upgraded to around 550 HP and think I should be using a better oil cooler. This is all new to me, so please bear with me.
I'm hoping to minimize the amount of alterations required while upgrading the cooler, so I'd like to try and keep the new cooler as close to stock location as possible.

This is how the stock cooler looks.
This is a pic from Hardin's site of the 3" cooler.

It looks to be much bigger in diameter and am concerned with it contacting the oil filter housing.
Has anyone done the upgrade and have any tips for me?
What brackets should I get for mounting? I assume the low mount like the pic above?

Also, for about $100 more, would it be worth getting the thermostatic oil cooler even though I have a thermostat in the filter housing?
Can the thermostatic oil cooler be painted? Or should it stay in the raw?
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I'm hoping to minimize the amount of alterations required while upgrading the cooler, so I'd like to try and keep the new cooler as close to stock location as possible.

This is how the stock cooler looks.
This is a pic from Hardin's site of the 3" cooler.

It looks to be much bigger in diameter and am concerned with it contacting the oil filter housing.
Has anyone done the upgrade and have any tips for me?
What brackets should I get for mounting? I assume the low mount like the pic above?

Also, for about $100 more, would it be worth getting the thermostatic oil cooler even though I have a thermostat in the filter housing?
Can the thermostatic oil cooler be painted? Or should it stay in the raw?
Thanks
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I think the HP 500 is 470hp so you are adding approx. 70 hp. My thought is that Mercury especially with their "Blue Motors" have a decent overkill built into that cooler. I assume you have a oil temp gauge so did you ever have the oil get too hot or did it keep creeping up or did it level off during a WOT run? Also, if you already have a thermostat then you don't need a second one. The ones that come with the tube style coolers are the ones that bolt to the block at the oil filter location. Its not part of the cooler. I think Hardin and CP sell the same items but I did look on CP's site and they sell "Plate Coolers" that may meet your needs. Good luck with your project.
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There was no ill will in my reply towards you. If it came off that way, I apologize.
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So by now you know that you insulted the wrong guy. I'm sure you HAVE read stories about guys being ripped off on this and other sites but if you look back they did not have his name attached. Even if it wasn't your intention, you just included him with those POS. Tough break for you because he is also friends with everyone on this site that you would want to hear from about your question(s). Maybe you could reach out privately and apologize?
I think the HP 500 is 470hp so you are adding approx. 70 hp. My thought is that Mercury especially with their "Blue Motors" have a decent overkill built into that cooler. I assume you have a oil temp gauge so did you ever have the oil get too hot or did it keep creeping up or did it level off during a WOT run? Also, if you already have a thermostat then you don't need a second one. The ones that come with the tube style coolers are the ones that bolt to the block at the oil filter location. Its not part of the cooler. I think Hardin and CP sell the same items but I did look on CP's site and they sell "Plate Coolers" that may meet your needs. Good luck with your project.
I think the HP 500 is 470hp so you are adding approx. 70 hp. My thought is that Mercury especially with their "Blue Motors" have a decent overkill built into that cooler. I assume you have a oil temp gauge so did you ever have the oil get too hot or did it keep creeping up or did it level off during a WOT run? Also, if you already have a thermostat then you don't need a second one. The ones that come with the tube style coolers are the ones that bolt to the block at the oil filter location. Its not part of the cooler. I think Hardin and CP sell the same items but I did look on CP's site and they sell "Plate Coolers" that may meet your needs. Good luck with your project.
What I meant was there are many stories of people trying to save a few dollars and getting burnt in the long run because of it. Oil coolers to me seem to jump out the most. Corrosion, metal particles, water impeller pieces, etc... I will be installing a brand new oil cooler is all. I wasn't even hinting at him selling bad parts.
Now with that said. I am new to all this oil cooler stuff and really do appreciate everyone's input. I have been basing my questions from everything I have read on here and from the performance parts sites.
They (CP, Diamond, and Mr Cool) seem to rate the 2" coolers up to 425 HP. Which is weird because Merc installed it on the HP500 engines. The sites list the 3" as being rated for 450 to 700. We're guessing my HP to be in the 550 range. That's why I assumed I would need the 3" as I'm almost in the middle of those ratings.
I understand what you're saying about watching the temps and addressing it at that time. However, the engine is out and will be much easier to install and modify the system now. And I plan on installing a new cooler regardless. Don't want to buy a 2" now, and need the 3" after I make a top speed pass later.
Most of the replies thus far seem to suggest the 2" cooler is sufficient enough for my application. I am listening.
Not trying to ruffle any feathers, trying to learn from people that have been there before.
I really do appreciate the replies. Keep them coming please.
I want to get these parts ordered up and on their way so i can install them once/if my engine ever gets done.




