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superstang01 02-08-2011 05:56 PM

looking for a 28 skater
 
Looking for a 28 skater for sale in ontario or upper new york state!

anyone know of anything?

Thanks

blume 02-08-2011 06:00 PM

new
 

Originally Posted by superstang01 (Post 3319247)
Looking for a 28 skater for sale in ontario or upper new york state!

anyone know of anything?

Thanks

how about a new one?

Catmando 02-08-2011 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by superstang01 (Post 3319247)
Looking for a 28 skater for sale in ontario or upper new york state!

anyone know of anything?

Thanks

Did you see this one?

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o35427-en.html

Yes I know it's in Florida but it might be worth the trip, especially if you can get him to come down off the price. I drove 3000 miles round trip to get my boat.

Baja555 02-08-2011 07:12 PM

what are you looking to spend? I have a 97 w/2.5's in excellent cond..I may consider selling if I can move into a 32.

Double Rigged 02-08-2011 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by superstang01 (Post 3319247)
Looking for a 28 skater for sale in ontario or upper new york state!

anyone know of anything?

Thanks

Have a 2006 w/300xs's. Would sell for right price.
What's your budget.
Boat in FL

superstang01 02-08-2011 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Double Rigged (Post 3319335)
Have a 2006 w/300xs's. Would sell for right price.
What's your budget.
Boat in FL

my budget is 70-80 000

Double Rigged 02-09-2011 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by superstang01 (Post 3319341)
my budget is 70-80 000

There are some nice boats out there but unfortunately not any late model ones in that price range. Good Luck

Maritime_Eng 02-09-2011 11:11 AM

http://www.screamandfly.com/showthre...&daysprune=100

XSNSX 02-09-2011 01:06 PM

I'm also looking for a 28' Skater. I have a 25' Powerplay with 200 Opti's for sale or trade if anyone is interested...

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o32504-en.html

KEVLARKAT32 02-09-2011 03:00 PM

For that kind of money and spare change you could buy a 40 ! How about the 32 that sold for 28 k on the repo sight with 900 SC and number 5 drives . Stuff is for free right now

SS930 02-09-2011 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3320070)
For that kind of money and spare change you could buy a 40 ! How about the 32 that sold for 28 k on the repo sight with 900 SC and number 5 drives . Stuff is for free right now

You're not really comparing apples to apples. Sure you can pick up a 40 for $70k-$80k, but not with power or without needing serious work and significant money being dumped into it. That 32 with the ugly paint and interior that sold for $28k was far from nice or turnkey, very rough at best. That boat has been somewhat cleaned up and listed on ebay and here for sometime now for $56k to $70k... and still has issues and is unsold.

A 28' in the $70k-$80k should be not only be turnkey, but issue free and very nice as well.

lightspeed 02-09-2011 03:25 PM

How Bout A 30 AMT With 2/ 300x

KEVLARKAT32 02-09-2011 03:30 PM

I know that 32 is on here and did not want to be the first to say that . The problem I have buying a used OB boat is more likely engines are going to come apart soon after you buy one . I would prefer to buy one without power cheap rather that pay all the money and have it come apart and then your upside down . Just my logic

Baja555 02-09-2011 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3320097)
I know that 32 is on here and did not want to be the first to say that . The problem I have buying a used OB boat is more likely engines are going to come apart soon after you buy one . I would prefer to buy one without power cheap rather that pay all the money and have it come apart and then your upside down . Just my logic

Your definitely right Larry, more times than not, when you buy a boat with upgraded motors, they are usually time bombs waiting to blow..

FullAuto9 02-09-2011 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Maritime_Eng (Post 3319879)

Thats not bad, 1994 28' skater rigged except for engines for $35k

Baja555 02-09-2011 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by FullAuto9 (Post 3320147)
Thats not bad, 1994 28' skater rigged except for engines for $35k

thats a great deal..

offshoresteve 02-09-2011 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3320086)
You're not really comparing apples to apples. Sure you can pick up a 40 for $70k-$80k, but not with power or without needing serious work and significant money being dumped into it. That 32 with the ugly paint and interior that sold for $28k was far from nice or turnkey, very rough at best. That boat has been somewhat cleaned up and listed on ebay and here for sometime now for $56k to $70k... and still has issues and is unsold.

A 28' in the $70k-$80k should be not only be turnkey, but issue free and very nice as well.

You are right about All of your points!! The "cheap" 40's need 100k+ to run.The 32 now for 70k needs tanks,motors gone through,drives and trans gone through, gel work ect.ect.I have seen it run!

offshoresteve 02-09-2011 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3320097)
I know that 32 is on here and did not want to be the first to say that . The problem I have buying a used OB boat is more likely engines are going to come apart soon after you buy one . I would prefer to buy one without power cheap rather that pay all the money and have it come apart and then your upside down . Just my logic

So when your ready to sell yours it should be "Real Cheap",considering its age and the fact you will have used re built "time bombs" for power.:eek:

skate 02-09-2011 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3320097)
I know that 32 is on here and did not want to be the first to say that . The problem I have buying a used OB boat is more likely engines are going to come apart soon after you buy one . I would prefer to buy one without power cheap rather that pay all the money and have it come apart and then your upside down . Just my logic

I thought the same thing when I bought my 28 with 300X's stock with 190 hrs each. I bought two spare motors knowing I would have issues. I'm on my second season and 240+ hrs now with no issues. Spare are just sitting in the shop.

A clean 28 Skater with good tanks and stock engines well maintained is still your best bang for the buck. You can afford to play and bolt a new horse on back if one kicks the bucket.

You have to compare apples here also with stock vs. Refitted and tweaked engines.

Sydwayz 02-09-2011 05:04 PM

How about an older boat with a full rerig and 2.4 ROS?

KEVLARKAT32 02-09-2011 06:31 PM

My Str 375 Hp Efi Have Zero Hours . That 32 For 70k You Forgot New 30 K Paint Job !!


I Just Have A Problem Paying All The Money For A Used Boat With Old Engines , Paint That I Hate , Rigging That Is A Mess Or Dated . Back In 08 I Thought I Got A Great Deal On My 32 Kevlar - Vinyl Estaer Resin ( No Tank Issues ) On A Super Nice Trailer For 23 K . The Only Way I Did A Project Like This Was , We Paint , Fiberglass And Machine Most Of Parts In House And Hunted Around For Engine Parts And Had The One And Only Shaun Torrente ( F-1 Fame ) Build My 375 -3 Litre Efi Powerheads . I Think All Said And Done My Cost Is Around 50 K

offshoresteve 02-09-2011 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3320271)
My Str 375 Hp Efi Have Zero Hours . That 32 For 70k You Forgot New 30 K Paint Job !!


I Just Have A Problem Paying All The Money For A Used Boat With Old Engines , Paint That I Hate , Rigging That Is A Mess Or Dated . Back In 08 I Thought I Got A Great Deal On My 32 Kevlar - Vinyl Estaer Resin ( No Tank Issues ) On A Super Nice Trailer For 23 K . The Only Way I Did A Project Like This Was , We Paint , Fiberglass And Machine Most Of Parts In House And Hunted Around For Engine Parts And Had The One And Only Shaun Torrente ( F-1 Fame ) Build My 375 -3 Litre Efi Powerheads . I Think All Said And Done My Cost Is Around 50 K

You have done a great job with your boat!I wish I had the time and experience to tackle such a project. What will you be paying for the str 375hp engs.I wish I had known about those before I spent the $$$ on 300xs.

Double Rigged 02-09-2011 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3320097)
I know that 32 is on here and did not want to be the first to say that . The problem I have buying a used OB boat is more likely engines are going to come apart soon after you buy one . I would prefer to buy one without power cheap rather that pay all the money and have it come apart and then your upside down . Just my logic

That's why you buy one with warranties. Not some motors put together in a garage. You are correct 300x's are time bombs. Pay now or pay later.

KEVLARKAT32 02-09-2011 08:18 PM

Trust me shaun is one of two on planet that build stroker motors and Simon is the other . Very well respected in the OB field , kind of like Sterling for O.B power

offshoresteve 02-09-2011 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3320368)
Trust me shaun is one of two on planet that build stroker motors and Simon is the other . Very well respected in the OB field , kind of like Sterling for O.B power

Where is his machine shop? What does he charge for a complete 375hp motor? I think Simmon charges 10.5k for each powerhead you send him.I had Diamond marine build me a set of 340hp 2.5's.They have an incredible machine shop,I wish they would get into the 3.0 market.

lightspeed 02-09-2011 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3320368)
Trust me shaun is one of two on planet that build stroker motors and Simon is the other . Very well respected in the OB field , kind of like Sterling for O.B power

We Are Building A Pair Right Now One Is Assembled ,,Waiting For A Crank For The Other

KEVLARKAT32 02-09-2011 10:00 PM

If you want a 3 Litre stoker you go to Shaun Torrente @ boat42@gmail , he wont touch a 2.5 , these guy's respect each other

Tell him Larry O sent ya

skate 02-09-2011 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by offshoresteve (Post 3320430)
Where is his machine shop? What does he charge for a complete 375hp motor? I think Simmon charges 10.5k for each powerhead you send him.I had Diamond marine build me a set of 340hp 2.5's.They have an incredible machine shop,I wish they would get into the 3.0 market.

Simon was $6500 last year. I've seen 115 with stock 300X's spinning merc 32's and no issues for 250 hours. More Power to you if you want more speed.

skate 02-09-2011 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3320271)
My Str 375 Hp Efi Have Zero Hours . That 32 For 70k You Forgot New 30 K Paint Job !!


I Just Have A Problem Paying All The Money For A Used Boat With Old Engines , Paint That I Hate , Rigging That Is A Mess Or Dated . Back In 08 I Thought I Got A Great Deal On My 32 Kevlar - Vinyl Estaer Resin ( No Tank Issues ) On A Super Nice Trailer For 23 K . The Only Way I Did A Project Like This Was , We Paint , Fiberglass And Machine Most Of Parts In House And Hunted Around For Engine Parts And Had The One And Only Shaun Torrente ( F-1 Fame ) Build My 375 -3 Litre Efi Powerheads . I Think All Said And Done My Cost Is Around 50 K

That's a nice power hull combo do you have any speed or performance inforation yet. My concern with the 30 and 32 Skaters with the 300 XS is dismal perfomace compared to the 28 and same power.

It would be nice to have a larger hull for bigger water yet comparable performane of the 28 with dependable twins.

offshoresteve 02-09-2011 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3320463)
If you want a 3 Litre stoker you go to Shaun Torrente @ boat42@gmail , he wont touch a 2.5 , these guy's respect each other

Tell him Larry O sent ya

I have 3.2 strokers already.I think Diamond will be in the 3.0 liter motors in the future,right now they are covered up with 2.5 work.I think there is plenty of business for more than 2 builders.I just want some feedback from someone that has put some hrs on their motors.I like to run my Skater Hard!! Not a trailer Queen:drink:

offshoresteve 02-09-2011 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by skate (Post 3320477)
Simon was $6500 last year. I've seen 115 with stock 300X's spinning merc 32's and no issues for 250 hours. More Power to you if you want more speed.

I use to have 340hp Diamond Marine 2.5's, top speed was 122 with half fuel and 98deg. Unfortunately got some bad gas and smoked a powerhead at 26 hrs,should have just rebuilt,instead I bought these 300XS motors.These things accelerate hard,I am spinning 32x14.75( acceleration props)they seem to top out at 112 with 34x15 3 blades, I have not tried any 4blades yet,this spring.

KEVLARKAT32 02-10-2011 07:39 AM

How much better on Fuel ? Here is my game plan , when fuel hits 5 gal I will plop on pair 300XS DFI powerheads . I'm on the lookout for cheap pair 25 or 30 inch set . Why a 25 or 30 inch ? There much , much cheaper and I only need powerhead , I will sell off the rest of the crap

F1Driver34 02-10-2011 07:44 AM

Facts
 

Originally Posted by Double Rigged (Post 3320343)
That's why you buy one with warranties. Not some motors put together in a garage. You are correct 300x's are time bombs. Pay now or pay later.

Hi my name is Shaun Torrente and I am only posting to clear up a couple things.... First off I absolutely work out of my garage at my house.... My garage happens to be a 35X30 with 3 10' doors but it is at my house... The first strokers I built I ran and tested on my personal 24 skater and that boat is still running today with it's new owner up north... I ran the hell out of that boat and the stokers have been together for a little over 2 years now... Double Rigged I took your comment to be a little condescending and I do not know why because you know me and I have tried to help you in the past with propellors and such (I test all the dewalds that we have developed over the last 3+ years).... Secondly to say 300x motors are time bombs is a bit of a stretch especially if you compare them to XS motors... I love all things mercury, if it was not for that company and the great people that work there I would not be where I am today, But an XS motor is more of a "time bomb" than an X any day of the week and twice on sunday.... 90% of the time a 2 stroke fails for 2 basic reason lack of fuel or ignition (timing problem), the other 10% of the time a part just fails (rod, crank,fuel pump, etc...)...Now an XS has 12 injectors compared to 6, 2 fuel pumps compared to 1 and a compressor (which has been an issue) that the x does not even have... So by my math i would take a X for every reason other than economy....I have owned or raced just about every late model high perf Mercury and I can say without a doubt the best weekend go fast motor Mercury has ever made is the 300X...... I will not talk money on an open forum but I will say that Larry (kevlarkat32) is getting alot for his dollar.... I do this because I enjoy it and I am blessed to be able to race boats and make a living, so for me it is more of a supplemental hobby....

Lastly I have a 93 28 Skater completely redone (new tanks wiring, etc) with 2 2004 300x motors under 200 hours

Shaun

KEVLARKAT32 02-10-2011 08:11 AM

I want to say that I have been in HP boating for 30 years and very rarely do I get to business with a guy like Shaun Torrente !! Honest , no bull **** , just a nice guy helping people go fast !! In fact it was only a month ago I figured out he races for F-1 for Mercury !!! He never brags , just low key get it done kind of guy !!

( I was not paid for this ) :drink:

Double Rigged 02-10-2011 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by F1Driver34 (Post 3320610)
Hi my name is Shaun Torrente and I am only posting to clear up a couple things.... First off I absolutely work out of my garage at my house.... My garage happens to be a 35X30 with 3 10' doors but it is at my house... The first strokers I built I ran and tested on my personal 24 skater and that boat is still running today with it's new owner up north... I ran the hell out of that boat and the stokers have been together for a little over 2 years now... Double Rigged I took your comment to be a little condescending and I do not know why because you know me and I have tried to help you in the past with propellors and such (I test all the dewalds that we have developed over the last 3+ years).... Secondly to say 300x motors are time bombs is a bit of a stretch especially if you compare them to XS motors... I love all things mercury, if it was not for that company and the great people that work there I would not be where I am today, But an XS motor is more of a "time bomb" than an X any day of the week and twice on sunday.... 90% of the time a 2 stroke fails for 2 basic reason lack of fuel or ignition (timing problem), the other 10% of the time a part just fails (rod, crank,fuel pump, etc...)...Now an XS has 12 injectors compared to 6, 2 fuel pumps compared to 1 and a compressor (which has been an issue) that the x does not even have... So by my math i would take a X for every reason other than economy....I have owned or raced just about every late model high perf Mercury and I can say without a doubt the best weekend go fast motor Mercury has ever made is the 300X...... I will not talk money on an open forum but I will say that Larry (kevlarkat32) is getting alot for his dollar.... I do this because I enjoy it and I am blessed to be able to race boats and make a living, so for me it is more of a supplemental hobby....

Lastly I have a 93 28 Skater completely redone (new tanks wiring, etc) with 2 2004 300x motors under 200 hours

Shaun

Shaun,
I apologize if I offended you. First off I did not know you worked out of your garage and the comments were not necessarily directed at you as nor was anyone elses. I think the consenus was that there are no real engine race shops (Diamond/JSE Racing Etc) that build 3.0L Race Motors every day for the offshore circuit. Diamond Marine is know all over the world for their motors as I am sure you have raced a few in the past but currently do nothing with 3L's . I appreciate your efforts with Dewald also. I have also tried to promote his product and gave input as well. As far as the debate for the XS versus the X's that will go on for ever. I personally consider fuel mileage as part of all around weekend boating as well as every day conditions. I would put my 300xs set up against any 28' skater out there. At the end of that day no one will be running over a 100mph in the ocean. Having a 2yr warranty is a bonus as well.

Lastly I have seen Shawns boat and pics. It is a nice rig.

F1Driver34 02-10-2011 09:59 AM

Double Rigged no harm no foul.. My apologies for taking it the wrong way... Marty and Joe @ Diamond are great and do a great job with 2.5s and i will not work on any for that reason... there are plenty of guys out there (far better than me ) already doing it!!!



Shaun

ronniels3 03-26-2012 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by superstang01 (Post 3319341)
my budget is 70-80 000

There is a beautiful 09 30' Spectre which looks just as nice as any skater on the OSO classifieds for $85K.

KEVLARKAT32 03-27-2012 08:05 AM

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I was looking hard for a 30 Spectre back in 2008 but found my 32 Skater . I would hands down take a 30 Spectre over a 24 or 28 anyday , well built , good looking and dirt cheap ! This one is only 47 K

Spiderman 03-27-2012 02:24 PM

Please contact diamond marine..........he has beautie !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thx chris 941.928.1173

lotopa.com 03-27-2012 11:33 PM

be interested in a 30 spectre 2.5 on new trailer (still at owens and son) 42k....make offer, my dream 42 fountain just came on the market again


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