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KEVLARKAT32 03-09-2014 08:29 AM

Anyone here used foot/ hand throttle in a large cat ?
 
Rigging my 32 soon and after 30+ years of right hand throttling not sure I will ever be comfortable with left hand console mounted throttle . For that reason been looking into have split system . I thought I saw a system that you had the option to either use foot or hand throttle . Also concerned performance in rough water .
Any input and or exp would be great .

Larry

speicher lane 03-09-2014 08:39 AM

Can't help you on the system that you are asking about but good to hear you are getting the 32 back together - was a good thread to follow.....My preference is a port helm for the same reason!

JIMKID Motorsports 03-09-2014 09:05 AM

Hay check with Pete they did a system just like you want a few years back I remember seeing there I think Trevor did it he is no longer there but that's no problem

davidmercury 03-09-2014 03:14 PM

I saw Vern from west coast drives using one in the 40 skater Predator at Loto. give him a call

Double Rigged 03-09-2014 06:14 PM

I throttle my boat left handed. Not a big deal. I would want sticks versus foot throttle any day.
However I did see some dual foot throttles at the Miami show. Hardin marine had some.

davidmercury 03-09-2014 08:35 PM

I'm the same with throttling left handed, once you get used to it its not a problem. on the other hand I have had other boats with foot throttles and you have to be extra careful when launching off of waves in rough water that you don't stomp the pedal by accident at the wrong time:hitfan:

skate 03-09-2014 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 4086641)
Rigging my 32 soon and after 30+ years of right hand throttling not sure I will ever be comfortable with left hand console mounted throttle . For that reason been looking into have split system . I thought I saw a system that you had the option to either use foot or hand throttle . Also concerned performance in rough water .
Any input and or exp would be great .

Larry

Over the year I became Ambidextrous at throttling my 28 as I would drive and throttle from starboard or just throttle from port seat when my son was driving. I liked the freedom of being able to watch the gauges and water with him driving. I had a single foot throttle on my 21's which were always a handful requiring both hands.
On an old Youngblood tunnel I had in the 80's we had a hand and foot throttle. It worked like cruise control

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Ask Rik about Dales 308 "Prototype 30". They rigged it with a foot throttle system. It had a split to do either or both. I think it was made by In Control.

Rik 03-10-2014 04:58 PM

I've got and rigged many boats with foot throttle. From the comments those who are against are mostly nieve as the foot throttles pivot in the center so one can brace themselves and not floor the throttles at the same time.

Having a foot throttle is just like driving a car/truck and without a hand throttle you have the option of no console so getting into and out of the front seats is a lot better.

KEVLARKAT32 03-10-2014 05:29 PM

Thanks everyone ! The Hardin one is simply a In-control . From my research they no longer offer the hand/ foot throttle option .
After spending the day taking care of few paint issues and climbing in driver seat there would be no room as is with factory foot rest to install foot throttle .
The guys who say its no issue do you have power steering ? For me after 30 plus year of holding wheel with left hand and throttling with right , I MUST HAVE RIGHT right hand throttle . I will leave my controls and add another set into right side seat . I will make a link box so it will be dual control as mentioned I will be able to throttle from console while someone else wants to drive my hunk of **** .
Larry

bulletbob 03-11-2014 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 4087446)
Thanks everyone ! The Hardin one is simply a In-control . From my research they no longer offer the hand/ foot throttle option .
After spending the day taking care of few paint issues and climbing in driver seat there would be no room as is with factory foot rest to install foot throttle .
The guys who say its no issue do you have power steering ? For me after 30 plus year of holding wheel with left hand and throttling with right , I MUST HAVE RIGHT right hand throttle . I will leave my controls and add another set into right side seat . I will make a link box so it will be dual control as mentioned I will be able to throttle from console while someone else wants to drive my hunk of **** .
Larry

Marty at Diamond told me a couple of years ago when i was looking that they bought the in-control stock. Right hand throttle connected to foot throttle. If anyone could make it work I'm sure your the guy. Check with him Larry.

bripar77 03-11-2014 02:47 PM

I have it on my Skater and wouldn't have a Cat without it. I am right handed and I sit on the left and so the sticks are on my right and I still use the Foot throttle 90% of time while boating. Gives me a better feel that if something happens to a drive on one side only I might better control the pull to one side that may occur. GT Perfomance (Upland, Ca.) Installed it on mine. Mine is set up to twist your foot if you want to control each engine seperatly ie: provide a little more to one than the other.

KEVLARKAT32 03-11-2014 03:51 PM

I take it is not the type that you still have hand throttle option ? Any issues in the rough stuff ?
I have done some research . CP performance offers a single or dual engine foot throttle ( N-CONTROL ) DOES NOT offer hand control as option . The N-control is MFG by mayfair and they may offer hand / foot throttle in future.
IN -CONTROL was the company that made the foot/ throttle , NO LONGER IN BUSINESS .

Rik 03-11-2014 05:17 PM

You can slave a hand throttle to the foot and vice versa if one wants both.

A normal foot throttle can be modified by cutting it in half and attaching a morse cable to both halves and then throttle on. It's not that difficult.

In Control made a split foot throttle. If CP does not offer this ask them if they can modify the throttle for you. In Control quit this a few years ago.

KEVLARKAT32 03-11-2014 05:54 PM

The IN- control offered the option to have had throttle work in tandem.
with foot throttle
THIS IS NOT TO BE CNFUSED WITH DUAL ENINE SPLIT PEDAL . I'm not sue were on same page .

Cobra100+ 03-11-2014 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by bripar77 (Post 4088024)
I have it on my Skater and wouldn't have a Cat without it. I am right handed and I sit on the left and so the sticks are on my right and I still use the Foot throttle 90% of time while boating. Gives me a better feel that if something happens to a drive on one side only I might better control the pull to one side that may occur. GT Perfomance (Upland, Ca.) Installed it on mine. Mine is set up to twist your foot if you want to control each engine seperatly ie: provide a little more to one than the other.

I have the same set up on my Spectre and love it. I tend to use the foot throttle alot when just cruising around as well.

skate 03-11-2014 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Cobra100+ (Post 4088162)
I have the same set up on my Spectre and love it. I tend to use the foot throttle alot when just cruising around as well.

Photos please!

KEVLARKAT32 03-11-2014 09:10 PM

Yes I would like some pics , send them to [email protected]
Your like me , refusing to pay to post pics here , hell without us there would be no OSO !!
Is the spectre OB and if so do you have power steering ?
Any issues at all in rough water ?
I had foot throttle in 13 ft tunnel boat years ago and had zero issues , actually seemed natural

Onetime 03-13-2014 10:50 AM

In-Control made the Hand/Foot Throttle set up. I rigged a few boats with them and they worked perfect. The ones I did used the split peddle foot throttle.

It seems that N-Control is not making the Hand/Foot adapter kit.

315duramax 03-13-2014 12:13 PM

why not build yourself a center console and put the sticks on the right side of the left seat???

KEVLARKAT32 03-13-2014 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by 315duramax (Post 4089145)
why not build yourself a center console and put the sticks on the right side of the left seat???

NOT SURE WERE ON SAME PAGE OR READ MY ORIG POST

Rigging my 32 soon and after 30+ years of right hand throttling not sure I will ever be comfortable with left hand console mounted throttle . For that reason been looking into have split system . I thought I saw a system that you had the option to either use foot or hand throttle . Also concerned performance in rough water .
Any input and or exp would be great .

Larry

252 Baja 03-13-2014 07:18 PM

http://www.cpperformance.com/p-16616...-assembly.aspx

KEVLARKAT32 03-14-2014 10:06 PM

Thanks !!! Here we ho THAT IS NOT THE HAND / FOOT THROTTLE Just simply dual engine

NASCAT 03-27-2014 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by JIMKID Motorsports (Post 4086656)
Hay check with Pete they did a system just like you want a few years back I remember seeing there I think Trevor did it he is no longer there but that's no problem

My skater 30 has both the N Control Foot Throttle (like CP's offering) & Latham sticks. Theres a custom slide mechanism that Skater built under the rear seat that combines the 2 sets of cables. You can use either at anytime. When you depresses the pedal the sticks DO NOT move but once you grab them & take up the slack you are throttling w/o skipping a beat as long as you don't release the pedal prior. The same goes for the reverse scenario. If you are on the sticks you can depress the split pedals to a point they take over for the sticks. The pedals are actually split & control each engine separately but I bolted mine together since I couldn't think of a reason or scenario where I'd throttle separately w/ my foot.

NASCAT 03-27-2014 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 4087426)
I've got and rigged many boats with foot throttle. From the comments those who are against are mostly nieve as the foot throttles pivot in the center so one can brace themselves and not floor the throttles at the same time..

Rik are you sure about that I'm 99.9% sure mine are hinged at the base???

NASCAT 03-27-2014 09:08 PM

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I don't have any pics of the custom cable mechanism handy but if you buy my boat there won't really be a need for the pics or anymore posts in this thread b/c she's turnkey! :party-smiley-004:

bulletbob 03-28-2014 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4097134)
Rik are you sure about that I'm 99.9% sure mine are hinged at the base???

The model I see in your pic Nascat is the in-control and I'm almost positive it piviots in the middle so you can decelerate if need be. Your 30 is still one of my Favs' !

NASCAT 03-28-2014 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bulletbob (Post 4097241)
The model I see in your pic Nascat is the in-control and I'm almost positive it pivot in the middle so you can decelerate if need be. Your 30 is still one of my Favs' !

After I posted I looked a little closer at the CP Perf link in post 21 (see pic) & I better understand what you / Rik are referencing. The pedal is actually hinged at the base, the port pedal slightly higher but ultimately at the base of itself. The mechanism for operating the cables is in fact mid pedal but you can in fact apply pressure w/ your heal that will keep you in the seat w/o opening the throttle, it's a bit harsh if you are a no shoes operator like me.

I use mine once on plane in an effort to free up my hands & adjust my drives / tab / radio / GPS etc since my boat is a single port helm. As long as it's not very rough I think the pedal is an asset. It is designed & operates very well consistently. The spring tension is rather high so that could wear on you especially if you're a no shoes operator like me. I think the thing I noticed most & I feel the foot throttle lacks is the ability to close / chop the throttle quickly. It's not the pedals fault but I assure you I can react faster w/ my right hand / wrist / arm (depending on how much I need to close the throttle) way faster than I can get react w/ my foot or entire leg. I say this b/c your seat has to be close enough to be able to keep pressure against the footrest which means you are really operating the foot throttle w/ a bent leg & the ball of your foot pivoting on your own heel & I know I can't get my foot off it & back on it applying the exact amount of throttle I'm after anywhere near as accurately as I can w/ the sticks that I also have a visual reference as to how much I'm opening or closing. I know guys race w/ these & I'm no JT but from a matter of fact / practicality stand point I'm better w/ the sticks, The Foot Throttle is simply an option I elect to use in certain situations. I considered adding a toe strap across it like we do the race cars (their purpose is to close a stuck throttle) so you can actually pull back on it but I didn't feel like I used it enough at speeds above 60-70mph to really warrant it.

You'll notice that my foot rest is only about 2/3rds the std size in order to accommodate the pedal but still plenty of room for me to get both feet planted comfortably when it's sloppy or at speed.

Thanks for the kind words BulletBob, as I'm sure you are aware NASCAT is For Sale & one very sweet turnkey performer. Almost bullet proof w/ the addition of the trannies & Indy Drives. BEST UPGRADE EVER for me personally! OK I don't want to be this guy. :hijack:

PS- feel free to PM me for my contact info if you want to chat more specifically about the foot throttle or the boat!

NASCAT 04-16-2014 01:11 PM

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Found a pic of the mechanism Skater custom fab'd up to allow dual control of the throttles w/ both the sticks & foot pedal. It's located underneath my rear seat.

Rik 04-16-2014 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4097134)
Rik are you sure about that I'm 99.9% sure mine are hinged at the base???

Yes, I'm not using a "In Control" style foot throttle. Think of the jet boat guys foot throttle. They hinge in the center and all I do is cut it in half length wise and fabricate a second Morse cable attachment and I have a twin engine foot throttle.

Even with an In Control you are not pushing the foot throttle with your foot when you are boating, you are pivoting your ankle so there is no problem with that style either as you know your boat and you know how to drive it so rough water will not make you do something stupid all of a sudden. The bottom of the In Control does not push the throttles forward the top does so for arguments sake you could brace your heel in the bottom of the In Control and be fine.


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