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anybody have a 21' or 24' for sale? any opinions on these boats ?

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between the 21 and 24 I would go with the 24. My 24 is for sale.

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After all that....you're gonna sell it????

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I love both of them, if you want twins...go with the 24 handles rougher water than the 21, but the 21 does amazingly well for a 21' boat, and it will run 100 on a single 300HP....that's hard to argue with.

You should ride in both.

Good luck!! Apache has a very nice rig, you should take a closer look at that.

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apache21
price pics info on your 24 please
thank you

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anyone have any idea how well a 21' with twin promax 225 would run and handle?

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I do know that twin 2.5's push the 21 into the low 120's, but its got to be a little freaky. You could easily run the 225's on a 24' Skater and they would land you right in the 100 MPH range.
If you already have the motors...I'd go with a 24' if you can find one w/o power. They're out there.

A single 300 pushes a 21 right to 100 MPH, some get a little more some slightly less but generally 100.

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thanks osprey,
you are the skater man I have read alot of your posts from scream and fly great stuff its helped me make my decide to buy a skater not a sportcat or clone. I am working a deal now for a 21 with a single 225 promax on it. i understand the singles have had lower unit trouble because of the size of the boat at high speeds therefore I had the idea I would buy this one and purchase another 225 and rerig it with twins. How do the 21 with twins handle?The twins dont add to much rear weight? The 24' is a great boat but I have not found any for sale that can be bought at a good price. I already own a 29'fountain too so I was thinking the 21' would be my fun little tear it up and beat the hell out of it boat.

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You may want to be carefull with that. If the boat was not originally set up for twins, you may need to add some additional transom knees. If the boat your looking at was originally set up for twins, you could have some transom issues. You may want to call SKater to see what they say. Good luck. If I can help you, let me know.

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Don't go with a 21 with twins. It will never run the way you want it to. A single 280 or a 300x is the way to go on the 21. If your interested my 24 is for sale. It is probably one of the best one's you find on the market. I have over $45,000 invested into it. I am looking at a 32 Skater

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there is a 24 for sale ... old race boat pretty cheap with a hole in one piston..... it was on offshorepowerboat but their site isn't working tonight.

[email protected]

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I've got to agree with Apache21. The 21 with twins looks like it's gonna sink when it's sittin still. I have not been in a 21 with twins but people who have them say they like em. The excelleration must be facinating. I still don't think that you can just bolt 2 on. It's not quite that simple.

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I agree there has to be alot more to it than just bolting them on. I own a collsion repair shop so I have alot of fiberglass and painting skills and the facility to do it right I just need to do some more research to find out what I need to do to beef up the transom. Iam more worried about getting the set up right. Not sure about set back or if they should be in align with the sponsons keels or closer together. I have read some posts from people that have had twins and they loved them. You just have to have alot of respect when you are running. The low water line on the transom is true Iam thinking maybe ballast tanks in front so I can adjust the cg as needed. iam going to pick up a nice 21 next saturday. How does the single fly are they flat in the air or bow up? Do they need more weight to the bow at times? or will minor trim adjustments set them right every time in all water conditions?

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will a 21 fit in a 7' high garage door?

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I don't think it will fit. About the twins don't do it. I talked to a guy that had twins on his 21 and spent lots of $$$$ and said every time he was in the rough the nose would point straight to the Sky. He even put weight in the front sponsoms and it still rode like crap. 100mph is as fast as you want to go in a 21. I think osprey and I would rather you play it safe. Also resale would be better.

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found this one on another site
1985 24'

Lots of pics at http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bscot...i2000/my_photos $26000 takes it home. [email protected]

it's not my boat, but that price seems reasonable

Ernie

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Not to rub it in...but we have had two weeks in the 70's and today was no different. That being said, we chalked up another day on the water for 2005. I sure can't complain! After I flushed the motor I read your post...then took some pics so you could see just how high the boat sits. It could be different on a different trailer, but you should still be below the 7 foot range. The first two pics are with the motor jacked up 8 inches, the second two are of the motor all the way nown. The measuring tape is set at 7' including the body of the tape.

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These are with the motor jacked all the way down. Looks like about 6'4 all the way down.

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I wouldn't bother with twins on the 21. The 21 rides nice and flat with a single 300....and you really don't want any added weight to any cat. They don't like it. The 300 is the perfect combo. There is another 21 Skater on S&F that already has the 300 Pro Max on it. Looks to be in good shape....25K asking price. I'll post the link.


http://forums.screamandfly.com/forum...ad.php?t=74674

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thanks for checking the height for me I think it will fit. Any idea what a 1999 promax 225 with less than 100 hours on it would be worth? looks like a nice 300 will run me around 11k I think Iam going to take the advice and look into a single 300.

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If you could pick up that 21 for $22,000 that would be a good deal.

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Wildman" has a 2002 300X that is" in like new codition on S&F for 12,500. He may take the 225 on trade plus some $$$, but S&F is the best place to sell it. Just because it's mostly outboard stuff.

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21' w/ twins won't handle? It sits to low? I have had two 21' w/ twins and one w/ a single. They are 2 totally different boats. The twin will run no doubt faster and because of having a counter turning motor will handle bigger speeds and chop. Here is a picture of the last 21' I had radaring 133mph at Alum Creek shootout in 2002 with 2 F1 race motors on it.

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where these factory twins or did you rig them yourself? I wanted to put twin 225PM's on mine but evryone tells me to just put a 300 on it. whats your opinion

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Here it sitting.

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Factory rigged, but I have converted singles to twins for others before.

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Did you add any transom knee's or bracing? I was told the factory twins had 5 transom knee's. anything special about setting up one with twins I should know?

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I'll sell you this 1992 never been raced with 1996 efi o/s for $36,000 turn key.

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I wish I would of seen that 3 weeks ago. I just bought a single

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There is a lot of work to do it right. Either leave it a single or take to someone who knows what there doing.

We can do it or there are others out there who are capable. Do the research first. We are a performance shop. All we work on are race boats.

One 300X will run the boat about 105+ mph. A single 2.5 efi or 300 Promax will run about 95+ mph. Twin 2.5 efi stock 280's will run 120+ mph. Drags will run 130+ mph.

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already started working on it. I enjoy working on them as much as running them. I originally wanted a 21' to restore and rig with twins. When I started asking around about it no one knew to much about 21's with twins. Everybody I have talked with tells me to go with a single and the boat will handle better. they said its too much weight and the boat will not fly flat etc...You are the first to have anything positive to say about it so you got me thinking again! I think they would turn better with 2skegs and not be as hard on the lowers. moving battery's forward getting rid of the heavy skater rear seat etc. and adding ballast tanks, counter rotate all seems like it would make it an impressive little boat.

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You don't need a ballast tank. What motors are you going to put on it and what rpm are they capable of?

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I have one 1999 promax 225 with a sportmaster now. I would look for another of the same if I do it.
scott

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To heavy, won't work, will not handle well at all, if you rig it for twin four strokes. You have to use 2 stroke or forget it.

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2.5's??????????? or a set of older bridgeports?

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Unless you know where there is a good set of 2.4's, they are getting hard to find. 2.5's are easy to find and the parts are still everywhere. I would look for a set of 1999 or newer with the alternators. PM me your phone number. I won't to talk to you about something.

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I think I just sold my 225 promax today so Iam in the hunt for a set of twinns or a real nice single 300x
scott

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um.....a 225 ProMax is a 2.5???? Why would it be too heavy. The boat would run great with twin 225 ProMaxes.

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Thats just what evryone was telling me that the 21's where to heavy with twinns I think it would be a great set up.
scott