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hp500efi 01-25-2002 08:29 PM

Just got back from the..........
 
Chicago boat show and made a visit to the Sunsation booth and man do I have the inside scoop on the new 32 and 38. Even pictures (at least of the 32 Innovator)

I will let Dave @ Sunsation post to see if he wants me to let the cat out of the bag :D

Sorry to leave ya hanging but all I can say is WOW :eek: :eek:

New looks, totally new innovations, stuff you have never seen before etc...

Come on Dave, chime in and let me know if I should let the boys know ;)

Mickey Britain 01-25-2002 10:53 PM

I gotta see it, along with everybody else, so I guess I will wait, or see it next month in St. Louis.
So tell me is it everything that we all expected from Sunsation?

Thats what I thought!

DaveSunsation 01-26-2002 08:54 AM

HP,

Let the cat out, if you saw it at the show then all should know what you found. Not a lot more info I can pass along on the 38, now the new 32 is pretty darn sweet even though the first one is still in the mold, it will be one that will shake up a few folks.

KN 01-26-2002 10:29 AM

Lets see the pictures and give us all the details you have on the new Innovator.

Kirk

KN 01-26-2002 10:48 AM

David are the Innovator and the Dominator going to stay two different boats? I guess what I'm asking will it be possible to order a Innovator with the interior of the Dominator. Or order a new boat with a compination of the two, fiberglass engine hatch, regular engine hatch, rear bench seat, or bolsters for the rear, ect. am I making any sence. I'm all worried I jumped the gun on my Dominator, not waiting to see the Innovator. How is the price compairison on the two?

Thanks Kirk

hp500efi 01-26-2002 11:05 AM

Without further delay,

Guys, first off,

Sunsation is or will be offering a windshield as an option on the 32 Dominator and 288. The windshield boats will come with a new Kick Ass looking dash that incorporates a "all in one" molded design. Much smoother looks than the current design. Switches ahead of the gas sticks, tab and drive monitor ahead of that all easy to read and very good looking. Nice touch Sunsation :D

The 32 Innovator appears to be mostly a POKER RUN boat where occupants will spend most of the time in the cockpit rather than the amenities of the cabin. I could be wrong but from what I see, it appears as that is the case.

The 32 Innovator will incorporate a set of side by side bolsters up front that is CENTERED within the beam of the boat (similiar to how a cat boat is layed out).

Aft of those front bolsters is a custom set of three side by side bolsters that are used in place of a bench seat. These bolsters are custom built by none other than McLeod.

The dash on the 32 Innovator is totally new, it is as wide as the side by side bolsters, has power foot rests, looks like a F14 fighter jet layout :D, includes MONSTER gauges ;), starboard steering, center (between seats) gas sticks and yes twin rearview mirrors to aide in poker runs.

The new 32 comes with the new rear racing hatch that JefferyBoy has already sneak pictures of. It also comes with Sunsations new STEPPED HULL, thats right, stepped hull as in a radical step. Double step as well as a few notches in the hull up front in the "vee" as to prevent "hooking" as I am told. The steps are pretty agressive and really bring out the "WOW" in the boat.

The other "never seen before" piece to this boat is the entry into the cabin. NO cabin door, no sliding door, I am told that the entire dash layout raises up and out of the way to allow access into the cabin. It does this hydraulically. Imagine sitting down in the bolster, hitting a switch and having the dash raise up allowing you into the cabin. Again, details on this might be alittle sketchy but this is what I was told.

Boat is 32'3", 97" beam, 36" draft just under 7,000# and has a race fairing.

They are also offering a few totally new paint schemes. The one that caught my eye was the Poker Run series 2 design. Imagine SUNSATION in large kick ass lettering along both side of the hull. Along with some great colors, it made for a very nice looking boat.

Sunsation will equip the boat with whatever trailer you desire, however they had a few boats on display that were sitting on Manning trailers and I must say they are a very nice trailer. In fact the Manning guy laser cut the name "Sunsation" into the side channeling of the trailer and backlit it so the name stands out at night. Very nice touch..

Here are some scanned photos of the new interior

Dave, did I miss something? maybe you can fill us in on the details of the operation of the dash/cabin access.

KN 01-26-2002 12:21 PM

hp500efi thanks for the pictures and details, the rear bolster set up looks sweet. Boy I hope I didn't make a mistake getting a Dominator, Did you get an idea at the show how much the Innovator is going to cost copaired to the Dominator.

Thanks Kirk

hp500efi 01-26-2002 12:36 PM

Kirk, no talk of prices. The first 32 is in the mold right now.

IMHO, I think the 32 Dominator will be a more usable boat and the 32 Innovator a true poker run boat, but as I said, I could be wrong.

I would however talk to the boys at the factory and see if they can give you the new "dash" layout that would be standard on your boat with a windshield. I have no idea if the new dash can be incorporated into the Dominators fairing. I do like the new windshield dash :D

KN 01-26-2002 12:55 PM

HP500efi The winshield would be nice as long as it doesn't take away from the look of the hull. It's a mood point for me, my boat was finished the day after
Thanksgiving. :D :D

Kirk

[ 01-26-2002: Message edited by: KN ]

01-27-2002 07:44 AM

The 2up bolsters are cool looking but practically speaking; I'm not a fan. I had a two up bolster on my 91 34' Scarab and I got kind of tired have my ex-wife sitting so close to me all the time. I like the separate bolsters just fine.

The other wierd thing about 2up's is when you take your buddy out for a ride; it's kind of wired having him sitting right next to you...

my .02

all that said: the boat is VERY COOL LOOKING and I'd seriously consider it...along with a few others...

- jeff

RumRunner 01-27-2002 08:21 AM

HP
Very cool pictures. I couldn't tell from the picture where are the thottles mounted ? An advantage of the side by side bolsters can be driver throttle man if you want to do some heavy race or poker runs.

mpally 01-27-2002 03:20 PM

Dave, will you have any boats at the St. Louis show? Thanks.

Miller 01-27-2002 07:33 PM

Are you going to bring one of the new Innovators to the NYC Poker Run in June? It would be nice to see you guys (and some of the smaller builders from the board) come out and play on the Hudson. Outerlimits, Sonic, Skater, Hustler, Cigarette and Spectre always make a huge impression. It would be good to see a factory team from Sunsation out on the river with the other 190+ boats.

DaveSunsation 01-28-2002 08:34 AM

HP500,

Nice capture of the specs and information you picked up and sharing that with all. The cabin entrance on the Innovator will be a split dash (no pic's yet) that will operate Hydraulically with the power foot rest laying down and the dash rising up for plenty of access room when you hit the switch.

We will be at St. Louis with a Dominator, 288, 25 Aggressor and 288 Mid Cabin Open Bow.

Kirk, rest easy big guy, the boats are very different in many ways with the Innovator running about 15 - 20K more due the standard features on this boat. About the only thing that is available on the Innovator that you could get would be the rear hatch and rear bolster setup, the rest of the setup is not possible on the Dominator as far as dash, cockpit and cabin layout. You can not get the new windshield dash layout with a fairing.


With the first few Innovators sold, it'll be hard to make the NYC poker run unless of course the new owners are open to the idea and would like to make the trip.

Keep checking our web-site, as new pic's become available I'll be adding them and other info.

Hope you all enjoyed the show and had the chance to meet Denny and the boys at Barrington Marine. They did a great job and so far they sold 5 boats at the show. Pretty exciting stuff.

GodSpeed All

[ 01-28-2002: Message edited by: DaveSunsation ]

holms 01-28-2002 07:31 PM

Hey Sunsation
Great job! The boats in Chicago were great. The new paint jobs are awesome. The new open bow should be a big hit. The new innvator is definetly going to create a buzz in the industry. I can't wait to see some magazine exposure. Nice job on the new brochure,hope to see the website updated soon.

holms

KN 01-29-2002 09:19 AM

Thanks David, I just have a little cabin fever, I'm getting anxious for spring, so I can get my boat. I read these post about the Innovator and I second guess myself. Where I shouldn't, you guys built me an awesome boat, I wouldn't change a thing. Only two and a half months to go untill spring, I don't know if I can take it.

Kirk

DaveSunsation 01-29-2002 09:36 AM

Eric,

Thanks for the encouraging words and yes the web-site is next. Just waiting to get the CD's back from the graphics place that helped me with the new brochure so hang tight, I'll have it done pretty soon here, these boat shows keep slowing me down -go figure.

Kirk,

Was sixty here yesterday so your wait might not be as long this year. Look forward to hearing about your first run.

GodSpeed!!!!!

stingray 01-29-2002 12:06 PM

In the 70's this week here in Va. Beach. Gotta love it!...

Rick

stingray 01-29-2002 04:13 PM

Thanks for the package Dave. The new brochure looks awesome as well as the new items inside. Can;'t wait to see the CD...

Rick


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