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PremierPOWER 12-07-2007 12:11 PM

43 F-4
 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dYzHr5e75ew

wow Im impressed. This boat is amazing, anyone own one yet?

bbraun 12-07-2007 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 2363207)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dYzHr5e75ew

wow Im impressed. This boat is amazing, anyone own one yet?

There are actually about 8 or 9 F4 out on the market now! Most of them have been sold down in FL. We have one almost complete at the factory that is coming here to VA. These boats are amazing!

Knot 4 Me 12-07-2007 01:18 PM

Mentalpause owns hull #1. I've driven the boat and it is very impressive. Upper 80's all day, 90 on a good day with 600's/XR's. 700/NXT boats are now into the triple digits with the latest tweaks from the factory.

hideaway 12-07-2007 01:53 PM

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Here are pics of two out of the three we have sold so far. The red one has 662's and the blue has 700's. We have another one being built that will be in the Miami show.

MahopacMarine 12-07-2007 02:58 PM

They are truly fantastic pieces of work. I had the opportunity to get up close to the green and black one they used for the poker runs. WOW!!

Sunsation won 2 Powerboat Magazine awards in the same year for that boat. Just magnificent.

Gladhe8er 12-07-2007 03:27 PM

There were at least 4 of these bad boys down in Key West. From the looks of them, they really give the Cigs, OL's and Nor-techs a run for their money. The black and green one is outstanding.

PremierPOWER 12-07-2007 03:53 PM

on that middle picture, where are the through hulls? are those them down under the water line??

Gladhe8er 12-07-2007 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 2363500)
on that middle picture, where are the through hulls? are those them down under the water line??


Good eye. I missed that. Maybe it is like the Nor-tech Stealth exhaust where it opens up once the boat gets out of the water???

PremierPOWER 12-07-2007 04:32 PM

what is nortech's exhaust like? Im not too familar with NorTechs

Jassman 12-07-2007 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 2363554)
what is nortech's exhaust like? Im not too familar with NorTechs


Here are a few pics of my 43 NOR-TECH. The Exhaust is located very low and basically by or below water line. It is very quiet when ideling and once on plane it is quiet but obviously louder when you achieve stern lift. From behind, everyone says it sounds good. Cockpit is quiet, and easy to have conversations at 60mph. The 43 Sunsation is also a great boat, alot of eye candy. I had an opportunity this year to be on Mentlepauses 43 this year at loto with Knot4me as co-captain..boat handles rough water very well, flies level, and fit and finish is excellent. Jeff

MahopacMarine 12-07-2007 07:10 PM

As Jassman stated. The exhaust is down low next to the drives. For the exact reasons that were stated. WOT great sound. Idling gives you a bit of peace. (If your into that kinda thing :evilb:)

In2Deep 12-07-2007 08:18 PM

Awesome craft. I hope to own one someday.

maxonmike 12-07-2007 08:35 PM

Very Sweet Ride.... Love the colors.... I would guess you see about 102 MPH.... Right??? Got any more pics???:Score-101010:

hideaway 12-08-2007 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 2363500)
on that middle picture, where are the through hulls? are those them down under the water line??

This boat has Mercury 662's and is CE certified. They have very strict noise restrictions. There are decible test done at the factory before they can be certified. This one spends part of the time here in the states and the rest of the year in Ibiza Spain.

hideaway 12-08-2007 09:30 AM

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This one has 700's and regular exhaust.

PremierPOWER 12-08-2007 11:46 AM

I'm not into the whole queit thing haha. I like my boats loud

Mentalpause 12-08-2007 04:31 PM

That's mine in the video in the first post. It is ready to go up for sale!:D

Jassman 12-08-2007 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Mentalpause (Post 2364427)
That's mine in the video in the first post. It is ready to go up for sale!:D


MAN, DON'T SELL, that's a beautiful boat..What ya gonna get now..a pontoon:drink:

Mentalpause 12-08-2007 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2364521)
MAN, DON'T SELL, that's a beautiful boat..What ya gonna get now..a pontoon:drink:

Now that you have been in it - it is USED! You know how that goes...:D

What am I going to get now - isn't your boat going up for sale soon?:cool-smiley-026:

Jassman 12-08-2007 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mentalpause (Post 2364530)
Now that you have been in it - it is USED! You know how that goes...:D

What am I going to get now - isn't your boat going up for sale soon?:cool-smiley-026:


Check out the smile:D

Mentalpause 12-09-2007 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2364669)
Check out the smile:D

Juicy and I need to start making the plans for the trip south.:cool-smiley-011:

Jassman 12-21-2007 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mentalpause (Post 2365054)
Juicy and I need to start making the plans for the trip south.:cool-smiley-011:

Hurry up, I just backed it off the trailer....AWWW, I forgot, it's a little cold up there guys:ernaehrung004:

Knot 4 Me 12-21-2007 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2379419)
Hurry up, I just backed it off the trailer....AWWW, I forgot, it's a little cold up there guys:ernaehrung004:

Don't make me break out the man-thong when I get down there! :Whatever:

Mentalpause 12-21-2007 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 2379441)
Don't make me break out the man-thong when I get down there! :Whatever:

Notice Sandy is doing all the work while Jeff is staring at the shoreline.:rolleyes:

I am bringing my non skid snow boots when we go down so I feel safe when I walk out on the waxed deck.

Jassman 12-22-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 2379441)
Don't make me break out the man-thong when I get down there! :Whatever:


I don't know which is a worse visual...Man Thong...or Carpet Hump:grinser010:

and you can see me in the back ground, with my hand up, like saying:I can't believe he did that:hitfan:

maxonmike 01-04-2008 09:31 PM

Why do you want to sell????? How Much????

PremierPOWER 02-18-2008 10:05 PM

After seeing this boat at the Miami boat show for the first time, it may be what we end up trading our Formula in for. Originally we were torn between the 3900 Nortech and 39 Cigarette both with 700s. After seeing this all I can say is WOW. Going to be a tough decision. What a boat, and the cabin is unbelievable!! Anyone have any isssues with the rough water causing problems with that touch screen controler? So why Should we go with this over a Cigarette or Nor-Tech. Minus the fact that Cigarettes are very pricey, as are the Nor-Techs as well though

Jupiter Sunsation 02-19-2008 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 2450370)
After seeing this boat at the Miami boat show for the first time, it may be what we end up trading our Formula in for. Originally we were torn between the 3900 Nortech and 39 Cigarette both with 700s. After seeing this all I can say is WOW. Going to be a tough decision. What a boat, and the cabin is unbelievable!! Anyone have any isssues with the rough water causing problems with that touch screen controler? So why Should we go with this over a Cigarette or Nor-Tech. Minus the fact that Cigarettes are very pricey, as are the Nor-Techs as well though

Customer service is unbelievable. You can call the factory about a 5 year old Sunsation and they will pull the file on the boat and discuss how it left the factory. The F4 should have no touch screen issues since it is the same unit they put in the Outerlimits and they ride harder. The F4 is faster than a NT 43V by about 6-8 MPH and runs neck and neck with a Cig 42X with 700's but that has a stripper interior/ no enclosed head.
I got a 40 mile ride in the F4 in the open ocean at WOT running from St Augustine to Jacksonville last summer and it was a blast. Boat was running upper 90's with 1/2 fuel and 5 people aboard. I think the biggest things you will be impressed with is that you can call the factory at 6 am and one of the owners will pick up the phone and they are hands on owners actually working on every F4 that runs through the doors. Wayne is a very detail oriented person and will tell you how he built your boat. He will hold up production if he sees something he doesn't like or something he can do better.
They have 9 F4's finished in the last 18 months and have even had one owner re-order a new boat with 1075's. All boats so far except the first (600's) have been 700/ NXT boats.

Good luck with your choices.

PremierPOWER 02-19-2008 12:01 PM

Disregard my last PM, I hadnt read this yet so was confused. Im hearing good things about the F-4. I think we are leaning towards it the most. The engine cabinet and engine hatch underside is probably the most exotic I have ever seen. We love the stringer setup, how it isnt wood. We have had a lot of stringer rotting issues with our Donzi so no wood in the stringers is a plus for us. I also like the fact that it has the 1100 check off thing where the employee signs for each thing they do on every boat. If they are signing their name, chances are they are going to do a better job to make sure its right. This spring I think we will be making a trip to detroit for the factory tour and hopefully a sea trial if it is possible. Has anyone actually weighed there boat on a the scales and subtracted the trailer weight? I have seen several different numbers for weight. What trucks are people using to pull these?

Westcoast 02-19-2008 01:35 PM

I looked at a lot of boats at the miami show and I must say that the F-4 was one of the coolest boats I have ever seen. Dave let me climb all over the boat and encourged me to look for flaws in it. The details they put into that boat are amazing. The F-4 is one trick rig.

Venomous 02-19-2008 02:36 PM

In addition to the weight question, what is the overall length and height of the F-4 on a trailer?

288sunny 02-19-2008 04:02 PM

F4 best in the boat world!
 
Huge thumbs up and a big ditto to what jupiter said, i couldnt agree more with him and i would like to add, joe is a wonderful person as well to work with and will give you all the ins and outs on anything, one thing i can promise you, if u buy a cig or a no-tech u wont be getting the owners cell phone #'s, and you wont be near as happy, nor will you be getting the pride thats put into every boat they build! GO SUNSATION!

hideaway 02-19-2008 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 2450918)
Disregard my last PM, I hadnt read this yet so was confused. Im hearing good things about the F-4. I think we are leaning towards it the most. The engine cabinet and engine hatch underside is probably the most exotic I have ever seen. We love the stringer setup, how it isnt wood. We have had a lot of stringer rotting issues with our Donzi so no wood in the stringers is a plus for us. I also like the fact that it has the 1100 check off thing where the employee signs for each thing they do on every boat. If they are signing their name, chances are they are going to do a better job to make sure its right. This spring I think we will be making a trip to detroit for the factory tour and hopefully a sea trial if it is possible. Has anyone actually weighed there boat on a the scales and subtracted the trailer weight? I have seen several different numbers for weight. What trucks are people using to pull these?

The ones we put in the water with our forklift are right around 11,700 with some fuel. We tow with F-650's but most are done with 350's. The key is to put it on a good trailer that is balanced correctly with good tires and axels. The CULT 43 was just under 12,000 but it has a generator.

Mentalpause 02-19-2008 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 2450918)
Disregard my last PM, I hadnt read this yet so was confused. Im hearing good things about the F-4. I think we are leaning towards it the most. The engine cabinet and engine hatch underside is probably the most exotic I have ever seen. We love the stringer setup, how it isnt wood. We have had a lot of stringer rotting issues with our Donzi so no wood in the stringers is a plus for us. I also like the fact that it has the 1100 check off thing where the employee signs for each thing they do on every boat. If they are signing their name, chances are they are going to do a better job to make sure its right. This spring I think we will be making a trip to detroit for the factory tour and hopefully a sea trial if it is possible. Has anyone actually weighed there boat on a the scales and subtracted the trailer weight? I have seen several different numbers for weight. What trucks are people using to pull these?

Mine has around 100 hours on it. No problems with the E-plex. Ride in the rough water is outstanding.

PremierPOWER 02-19-2008 06:31 PM

We would be getting a Myco trailer for sure. Love the one our Formula is on. We tow with a 2007 Chevy DRW 3500 with a putnam hitch. Looks like the boat only weighs about 1000lbs more than our formula and our truck tows that just fine.

waterboy222 02-19-2008 06:53 PM

i would trade my sunsation in on an F4 in a heartbeat. I got to meet the factory guys at LOTO and it amazed me that they both remembered my boat leaving the factory (its a 1993 model!) and told me the names of the last 3 owners and the history of what motors it had and on and on..

If only my paycheck could support an F4, id live in one! I want the green one from LOTO..

MahopacMarine 02-19-2008 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 2451562)
We would be getting a Myco trailer for sure. Love the one our Formula is on. We tow with a 2007 Chevy DRW 3500 with a putnam hitch. Looks like the boat only weighs about 1000lbs more than our formula and our truck tows that just fine.

We have pulled a Formula 382 with the Chevy DRW Duramax on an Eagle trailer. Then pulled the F4. Very similar pull. The Chevy is a good vehicle for pulling it. The larger trucks like Hideaway stated would be a better choice for the longer hauls in my opinion.

crazyfast 03-01-2008 08:54 AM

Hey Premier, I took a 2007 43 in on trade for a Nor Tech,I have a 2007 43' w/700's about 50 hrs....I'll take your Formula on trade...I have a customer looking for a FASTECH and sold the two I had.You will NOT find a better price on a like new used boat!!! If you are looking for a great deal on a Sunsation call me, Marc @ FASTBOATS 269.208.5321 cell

PremierPOWER 03-01-2008 10:41 AM

Thanks, but we are wanting a new boat

crazyfast 03-02-2008 09:50 AM

I appreciate the fact that a new boat gives you exactly what you order, the majority of hrs put on the boat were hrs from the factory, but if you are looking to save 100-125k call me.


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