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ziemer 01-13-2007 08:46 AM

24' Tow Rig
 
What are you guys towing your 24's with? Anyone not using a full-size truck??? I've got a Sport Trac (Explorer) that will need to work at least for now, if I buy the boat I'm looking at.

What's the weight fully rigged with the trailer. I'm guessing it's no more than 5000 lbs. :confused:

Thanks! ;)

GEORGE YURICK 01-13-2007 08:53 AM

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explorer sport track will tow that 24 without a problem...i wouldnt go across country with it but around town it will be fine.....

whats the verdict??? does it look like your buying this thing??

ziemer 01-13-2007 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GEORGE YURICK (Post 1991981)
whats the verdict??? does it look like your buying this thing??

Hopefully, I'm having a friend of mine go look at it next weekend. Would have had him do it this weekend, but he had to go snowmobiling. :rolleyes: :D :D

cuposterchild 01-13-2007 09:45 AM

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Using a 2004 Ford Ranger. Granted I got it equipped with 4.10 gear full tow package 4wd etc 4.0L etc. Breaks are the downfall on this package....but the boat does tow great. Towed from Ohio to pick up the boat all the way to to the 1000 islands up on the NY/Candian border. Thought it towed a lot better than my old Pachanga 22 because of how narrow the 24 was. Make sure you have 4wd or you will be sorry....I need it on most of the ramps near me. I think Pat is towing with a Wrangler?

cuposterchild 01-13-2007 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ziemer (Post 1991974)
What's the weight fully rigged with the trailer. I'm guessing it's no more than 5000 lbs. :confused:

Thanks! ;)

I am at about 4400-4600 with the boat and trailer. Factor in a full tank of gas, cooler etc I am up just under 5000. No way I would tow more than 5000lbs with my truck though eventhough I think Ford says it can handle up to 5600!

ziemer 01-13-2007 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cuposterchild (Post 1992032)
Using a 2004 Ford Ranger. Granted I got it equipped with 4.10 gear full tow package

That's good to know. I believe most of the drivetrain is the same or similar. I know the trans is the same or at least was in previous years. I also have the 4.10 rear with limited and the tow package. No 4wd, but with the limited slip rear, I've only needed 4wd once in 5 years on a ramp. Only thing that concerns me now is the tranny because my trucks got some mileage on it (98,000). It's going to the shop next week so we can pull the pan and check it out. (It's due for a tranny flush anyhow.)

cuposterchild 01-13-2007 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ziemer (Post 1992060)
That's good to know. I believe most of the drivetrain is the same or similar. I know the trans is the same or at least was in previous years. I also have the 4.10 rear with limited and the tow package. No 4wd, but with the limited slip rear, I've only needed 4wd once in 5 years on a ramp. Only thing that concerns me now is the tranny because my trucks got some mileage on it (98,000). It's going to the shop next week so we can pull the pan and check it out. (It's due for a tranny flush anyhow.)

Yeah I hear ya...that is kind of why i equiped the truck the way I did. Definately have the tranny checked...I have the limited slip with the 4wd....really wouldn't be without either in this truck. Be careful w/o 4x4 as i think your truck is a little heavier than mine. What were you towing before? Keep in mind I know people who towed a HUGE 24ft+ grady white with a Mountaineer....am I saying it was safe and correct? No way...can it be done? sure! If the tranny is in good shape can't think it wouldn't be up to the task if the mountaineer could do it.

cuposterchild 01-13-2007 12:00 PM

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Pic of the rig

FX10 01-14-2007 12:45 AM

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Hell. I've been towing Superboats for years withn my Trooper. Granted it's a LT package , but I have no problem towing a Y2K. I have 230 HP with a V6. Hell the New Durango with a 318 V8 only has 235HP.

ziemer 01-14-2007 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cuposterchild (Post 1992159)
What were you towing before?

I've got a 20' Allison, that weighs no more that 2500lbs total w/ the trailer. The truck tows the hell out of that, but it's also 1/2 the weight.:D The only time I had an issue with it, was at a ramp that the trailer went off the end of the ramp because the tide was super low. :(

Thanks for the pic, nice looking rig. :cool:

Pat McPherson 01-14-2007 02:30 PM

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I tow my with a Jeep Wrangler...:eek:

Pat McPherson 01-14-2007 08:58 PM

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I added a pic to my last post.
No, a Wrangler is not the best tow vehicle, but it works fine around town.
When ever I've gone on the highway, I've used my wife's Grand cherokee. Even with only the 4.0L engine, that will tow at 75mph no problem.
I had both my 24' Pantera and my 24' Super on the scale at the local gravel pit. Neither was over 4800lbs including trailer, fuel and gear.
Any rig rated for 5000lbs towing will be just fine for these boats so long as you have brakes on the trailer.

jayhawk261 01-14-2007 10:20 PM

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Pat, you've got to be a bit crazy towing with that Wrangler! :-)

Way back when, I worked in the parts dept at the local Jeep dealership. Back then they were rated to tow a max of 500 lbs. I can't imagine they changed that. They still have the 4.0. I think the suspension may have changed since then.

fastedy 01-15-2007 07:16 AM

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We use an Extera at the Race sites to pull my 30, works great up to 10 miles or so, I wouldnt use it on trips, ie to the race site.

superboat1989 01-15-2007 07:26 AM

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I tow my 24 with a 4 x4 V8 Explorer with the factory tow package. Works fine around town or highway as long as you have trailer brakes.

Pat McPherson 01-15-2007 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jayhawk261 (Post 1993530)
Pat, you've got to be a bit crazy towing with that Wrangler! :-)

Way back when, I worked in the parts dept at the local Jeep dealership. Back then they were rated to tow a max of 500 lbs. I can't imagine they changed that. They still have the 4.0. I think the suspension may have changed since then.

Well, you do what you gotta do. I've towed it with my 2 wheel drive Ford Ranger too. She's a 5 speed and the clutch has been smoked a few times...:eek:
Yes, my Jeep has a 4.0L and I believe it is rated at like 2,500lbs towing. Honestly, my Jeep is fine around town (below 50mph) so long as the trailer brakes are working. I use 4 low to pull the boat out of the water and the clutch is still fine. She crack 100K a few weeks ago and keeps on ticking...:D

Stormrider 01-15-2007 07:53 AM

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i agree w/ pat, that a truck w/ 5000lb rating will be fine.
I towed my 24pantera w/ the wifes lexus GX... no problems.

krakmeup 01-15-2007 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cuposterchild (Post 1992167)
Pic of the rig

Nice Rig!!!

I know you're wondering about 24's, but realize my Y2K only weighs 5300 fully loaded! I like overkill, so the towed boat is less than ~75% of tow vehicle capacity. My F250 diesel 4x4 doesn't even strain with the SB attached. That said, for local short towing there should be no prob towing at near the capacity ratings, but like said on this thread, if you plan to do long hauling you may want to reconsider more capacity - at least more braking power.

cuposterchild 01-15-2007 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by krakmeup (Post 1993697)
Nice Rig!!!

I know you're wondering about 24's, but realize my Y2K only weighs 5300 fully loaded! I like overkill, so the towed boat is less than ~75% of tow vehicle capacity. My F250 diesel 4x4 doesn't even strain with the SB attached. That said, for local short towing there should be no prob towing at near the capacity ratings, but like said on this thread, if you plan to do long hauling you may want to reconsider more capacity - at least more braking power.

Oh man that is going to be the NEXT rig (Y2K plus Superduty) WANNA TRADE!? Very nice setup.

cuposterchild 01-15-2007 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ziemer (Post 1992942)
I've got a 20' Allison, that weighs no more that 2500lbs total w/ the trailer. The truck tows the hell out of that, but it's also 1/2 the weight.:D The only time I had an issue with it, was at a ramp that the trailer went off the end of the ramp because the tide was super low. :(

Thanks for the pic, nice looking rig. :cool:

Thanks, one more thing that you might want to think of. Because Breaks are gonna be one of the weaker areas of your setup see if the trailer has breaks on it and make sure that that they are totally up to the task...will really help if things get hairy...not to mention it is a lot more weight back there over the Allison (not sure if you have trailer breaks now)

Pat McPherson 01-15-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cuposterchild (Post 1993799)
Because Breaks are gonna be one of the weaker areas of your setup see if the trailer has breaks on it and make sure that that they are totally up to the task...will really help if things get hairy...not to mention it is a lot more weight back there over the Allison (not sure if you have trailer breaks now)

Yup...
I have brakes on all four wheels of my trailer.

krakmeup 01-15-2007 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cuposterchild (Post 1993796)
Oh man that is going to be the NEXT rig (Y2K plus Superduty) WANNA TRADE!? Very nice setup.

Thanks!! Trade!!!??!!! Not anytime soon!! For once I'm pretty content with my setup, might consider some more horsepower once that 496 gets tired...... Dec 31 ran 72.6 mph gps with three guys and 3/4 tank on a light chop (perfect Y2K water) in the cool Texas weather - what a BLAST!!!!!!

Superbabi 01-15-2007 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by krakmeup (Post 1994055)
Dec 31 ran 72.6 mph gps with three guys and 3/4 tank on a light chop (perfect Y2K water) in the cool Texas weather - what a BLAST!!!!!!

Way to go Keith !!!!! Damn, Superboating in the winter !!!!!:evilb: :evilb: :evilb:

krakmeup 01-15-2007 02:21 PM

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Gari, what can I say - still loving that SB!! If I could figure out how to resize and post some video I'll post it too! Here's a few shots - I went out for the day with my buddy in his 32' Sunsation

Dave M 01-15-2007 03:48 PM

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I have a Chevy 2500 to tow my 24. I don't even know my boat is back there.

TeamSaris 01-15-2007 03:58 PM

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What gas mileage / motor do you have Dave?

Dave M 01-15-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fast fun 2 (Post 1994237)
What gas mileage / motor do you have Dave?

I have the 6.0L/w 4.10 rear. The MPG SUCKS! I get around 13 mpg non towing, and around 10-12 towing. I should of listened to the experts and ante'd up for the deisel. The Duramax gets around 19 from what I read.

At least I know that I will be able to tow a Y2K without a problem! :D

AIR TIME 01-16-2007 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat McPherson (Post 1993884)
Yup...
I have brakes on all four wheels of my trailer.

Pat I tow my baja 24 0l 4000lbs dry with my wifes 04 explorer limited v8 its great but she *****es sometimes so I WAS THINKING OF TRYING WITH MY WANGLER TO, ITS A HALF hour ride on back roads to the ramps I use. do you think adding disk brakes to the rear of the jeep will help? I always use low on any 4x4 I have owned its easyer on every thing.:D

Pat McPherson 01-16-2007 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 1994832)
Pat I tow my baja 24 0l 4000lbs dry with my wifes 04 explorer limited v8 its great but she *****es sometimes so I WAS THINKING OF TRYING WITH MY WANGLER TO, ITS A HALF hour ride on back roads to the ramps I use. do you think adding disk brakes to the rear of the jeep will help? I always use low on any 4x4 I have owned its easyer on every thing.:D

I don't think disk brakes on the rear of the Jeep is going to help much. When the brakes on my trailer are working well, I can feel them holding the Jeep back.
A 30min ride with a 5000+lbs tow is a bit much for a Wrangler IMO. The biggest problem towing with a Wrangler is the short wheel base. They have plenty of power, but stopping a heavy load is risky...
The two ranps that I use are within 10miles from my house. Most of the Summer I leave my boat at a marina on the trailer and use their ramp; so, it's just in and out.

t-islands 01-16-2007 09:03 AM

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I also tow with a full size Chevy. Smaller motor (5.3) than Dave's. To make up for the smaller displacement I added dual exhaust, K&N cold air intake and a throttle body spacer. Big improvement in the torque and picked up the MPG.

Boatshopping 01-18-2007 09:07 PM

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I pull mine with a Toyota Tundra Doublecab...no problems...

John


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