Hey T.
Your engine is only a camshaft and ecu change away...:evilb:
Surely a lot less than 5K.

I think anything over 80 in a 24 is just for bragging rights anyway. It's not real "usable" speed. When I hit 78+ it's just for a quick speed check. It's not like I ride around at that speed. I do like to cruise around 55-60 though. I can usually hit 55 at about 3500 rpms. That gives a pretty nice MPG factor. :drink:

Yea, I talked to Raylar in Miami about a kit. Tempting since the warranty is up in August. But the motor has been rock solid, not even a misfire and runs a solid 75 any day of the week.

I'm sure the Mag is just fine, but the HO may help in resale... if & when the day comes.
Cruise at 50-55 is where its at.

Storm, what do you thing a Raylar kit would do for resale value?

Time to get the 24 back on the map ! HMMM Make Rick change the deck to look like the new Y2K just shorter. Rick and Bob , Forgeeeet aboutttt it. no problem Just take a deck already made cut it down in a few areas make the mold and now you have the new Y2K2 . should only take a few days rite! Rick im apologizing now for bringing this up again. It would be cool!!!!

It would be cool Zup but the classic lines of our boats are cool too...:cool:
I'm hoping to see a new hatch without the sun pad and maybe a scoop like the newer Y2Ks...:evilb:

I hear you bro, there is a lot to be say for stock power.
My engine starts with a flick of the key and idles away from the dock at 600rpm.
Push the throttle and she spins to 4900rpm with a 27p prop.
75mph any day of the week...:D

High Output Confirmed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just say HO! :evilb: :D

Congrats! :drink:

You got the bragging rights with me Dave.
I ran solo last Sunday and saw 84-85 on the speedo, 77.1 on the GPS...:p

So if daves boat runs 77-78 and
pats boat runs 77.1 what the hell am I spending and extra 6k with full steering for????

Both Pat and Dave run full hydraulic steering. I ran a partial system for two years and am more that convinced that full is a requirement. I would never build a performance boat with out a full system again.

I had a 24' Pantera (same boat as the Super) with the stock Merc steering. IMO not safe in these boats over 60mph.

My 24' Super had twin external ram and a full hydraulic helm when I bought it. I can let go of the wheel at 70+ and the boat will track as straight as can be.

I can not comment as to how well the partial systems work. Dave and Tim have had them so they could tell you.

Now 6K extra to go from the stock Merc to external rams and full hydraulic helm is not a bad price. If that 6k is an upgrade from partial to full than I'd be questioning JC.

The partial system in my opinion was not safe. The first year it was fine, at the end of the second year it was sloppy. I have talked to a number of people who have experienced the same issue.

Then it becomes after market... and it think that depends on the builder and the location of the new owner.
ie: if the boat has a JCperf engine and its going to LI, its a no brainer. My boat sold because of the engine, and it went to NC, now its in FLA... so go figure.

IMO, if you have a stock 496, raylar is a proven way to get more HP, and anyone in the Offshore HP scene knows it. I think it would be better than most local guys working on it.
Its what i would do w/ a 496.

Then again, i don't know too many guys that would frown upon a ZUL750! :evilb:

Not to throw a wrench in K-wells build, but how about that 550hp sbc from raylar w/ headers for low 20s??? Pat? :cool:

K-Wells... the way i see it, all the serious HP boats have full Hydraulic steering. Every race boat has it... its got to be good to have. Had it on my 24pantera and it ran on rails... oh damn... i miss it now. :(

That is a real nice engine Storm, and would be great in a 24' Super for sure.
Unfortunately by the time you buy the engine, drive, and gimble separately you're close to the package price of a Merc Racing 525EFI Bravo XR.
I think the market for that small block is in a 28' to 32' twin.

IMO the 375HP 496Mag Bravo is about the best package deal out there for a 24' Super. The 5K for the upgrade to the HO and X drive would be a tough sale for me. But that is me, and I've not ever bought a new boat...

As far as the steering goes, it is definitely worth it. My 24 is 7 years old now and it has cable helm/external hydraulic. It is almost uncontrollable due the the wear on the cable system. At idle I leave a trail like a drunken sailor. I can't drive in a straight line. At speed, it's a bit scary to control cause you have to turn the wheel several degrees in either direction to get it to do what you want. Problem then is that you have most likely oversteered and now need to go back the other way.

That is why mine will have full hydraulic before it sees the water again!

My partial system never felt that great either. Lots of play in the steering. It seemed to require a lot more wheel input.

Kevin I went back to the begining and you said this is your first boat YES? Most everybody on this website will try to stear you in the rite direction. Sometimes it just mite seem that we like to spend other peoples money. If you have no boating skills trust me you will get yourself or a friend hurt in a 24. No matter how good the boat is. Start slow and progress at your own speed. Learn the boat and more important to read the water. Things come up fast at 70.ok back to spending money A full steering system is money well spent and in the long run you will be saving money by not doing it twice. The rite system the first time.

Kevin,
Just sprayed your hull today !! Looks beautiful !!!

im getting a boner just thinking about it.......

Is that transom notch something new? My boat doesn't have that.

It's been there a few years Dave.

I've seen it on the 24 OB's but not on an I/O boat..

Does T-islands have it?
I bet with that notch you could run a shorty.
I remember Superbash found the sweet spot on his boat was to have the propshaft about 3-1/2" below.

Good Advise!
This is going to a little like getting a Ferrari for your first car...:eek:
Even experienced boaters make mistakes; yours truly included.
Going 75 in a boat is like going 150 in a car. Not that I've ever gone 150 in a car...:eek:

My boat does NOT have the notch.

I remember my first season with my boat. Between the mediocre steering system and the 3 blade prop that it came with, I was all over the road. Lots of chine walk! :eek:

A 24 is a great boat and good choice! Im on my second one.

Unlike cars-In boating the water conditions constantly change.

K-WELLS Congrats. Smart move going to the HO! I had the drop-out bolsters in my 24 but rarely used the drop-out feature. If you look at the 24 photos on the website look at Superbash(Gene's) airial photo. Doing that, I believe you'd want to be in his position as opposed to the pic of Loose Screw photo. Also look at the pic of Randy Taylors photo at speed with him ducking out of the wind. IMO the buckets are better. Oh by the way I've had the bottoms drop out on huge arial drops on the bolsters.

talked with Coen, K wells will NOT have the notch. I didn't know till this mornind. The 24 in the mold is Bridgets (Coen's daughter). It will be laid up and put on hold till Kevins is done.

JC---smart business move buliding his daughters boat before mine:rolleyes:

Not very! Kev when is your delivery date ?

Hey K-Wells,
Let's here some of the ideas you have for your boat.
Please no more B.S. about the 30' for sale in NJ.
Thanks,

Hmmmmmmm, I would take a guess and say K-WELLS CANCLED THE BOAT???

Yes I did cancel my 24 order from John. I did not have 4 months to sit on my thumb waiting for him to come home from kismit. I already purchased a used 24 last week and with post pics as soon as I am done with the renovation. so yeah superbabi---you got me in a big way------Im sooooo embarassed:rolleyes:

Well, let's some before pictures...

Hard To Beat A Custom Made Boat From Jc As To Price Or Performance - It Is Usually Worth The Wait For Brandie-new... Also Sometimes Deals May Be To Good To Pass-up... I Guess Time Will Tell Which It Was???