Montauk and back- nice!

Hey Sean, what numbers do you think you will see when she is dialed in ???:grinser010:

I dont think 80-82 is out of the question...if I go with some top end props, but for now, I do like the mid range from the bravos, its definitly a good 'starter' prop. I think when we raise the engines this weekend, we will get a better idea

What pitch bravo's are you using?

28"

What other props will you be testing with?

Here are some images:

http://www.mercuryracing.com/propellers/



The Chopper and Lightning might give you better control at the higher RPMs

Next would probvably be a 30 " bravo. Then after that, try a three blade to see how it feels. Coen thinks three blade will be the way to go

Correction,

The Chopper and Lightning will give you better top end...but will NOT give you better control at all.

I remember on my 27 Activator with a single MRD I/O the Lightning style prop made the 27 slide at turns.

I hope R doesn't de-list "Activator" boats here too :grinser010:

muhahahahaha

If you need more RPMs why are you putting in a bigger wheel :eek:

woops my bad...you're putting in a bigger wheel because you're raising the engines...I get it

Please let us know how she does this weekend

more pics and videos pleeeez :)

Raisin the engines, so not sure what effect will be. Some think 28" is the right #, some thing 30"

I hope the 30" pitch works out!

How many inches higher do you think G will go this weekend?

I wonder what other SB outboard owners' x-dimension is

Gonna start with an inch, see how she runs, and go from there

Remember. An inch with a 30 Bravo prop might be different from another prop. Angelo from Activator said it best. " I have 17 machined props from Mercury, all the same diameter and pitch. There's a 4 mph difference between the slowest and best prop. Thats why I went to the Herring" Then again Herring has something like a 22 degree Rake. Lotsa lift. Told during the Boat test for the magizine

Sean, very excited to hear how the testing went today.

tell us...show us :)

What are the new numbers that the 30CC performed today?

Top end, pitch, how high were the engines raised? ...noli

We raised the engines up, and it was night and day. Boat already ran well, but really made a difference. Boat rode a little higher over the chop, and with George and I in it, we hit about 75 mph, and had none of the shake/ chine walk I was experiencing last week. I rode around with a neighbor for a while after I dropped George off and we hit 77 mph, with the wind to our back. The big difference was in how the boat ran in the 5000 rpm to 5600 rpm range. Lat week, she would hit 5000 rpm and kind of hit the wall, and not really pick up any speed from 5000 to 5600 rpm, and after rasing the engines, she was real responsive in that range

George and I were messing around, and at 60 mph, the fuel flows were reading 13-16 gallons an hour....can cruise at 60 mph and burn less then 30 gallons an hour...not bad

Boat has to go in for 10 hour service and have a few odds and ends locked down, George is going to raise the engines on the jackplate itself (change which bolt holes it is bolted to), and then we will bring the engines up a little more.

We raised the engines up, and it was night and day. Boat already ran well, but really made a difference. Boat rode a little higher over the chop, and with George and I in it, we hit about 75 mph, and had none of the shake/ chine walk I was experiencing last week. I rode around with a neighbor for a while after I dropped George off and we hit 77 mph, with the wind to our back. The big difference was in how the boat ran in the 5000 rpm to 5600 rpm range. Lat week, she would hit 5000 rpm and kind of hit the wall, and not really pick up any speed from 5000 to 5600 rpm, and after rasing the engines, she was real responsive in that range

George and I were messing around, and at 60 mph, the fuel flows were reading 13-16 gallons an hour....can cruise at 60 mph and burn less then 30 gallons an hour...not bad

Boat has to go in for 10 hour service and have a few odds and ends locked down, George is going to raise the engines on the jackplate itself (change which bolt holes it is bolted to), and then we will bring the engines up a little more.

Sean, what RPM were you seeing once the motors were raised 1" ?

About 5600 without having tpo trim it to the moon

I think that the sportmasters want to be very near the surface and the matching props would want to be at/near the surface as well when doing 80+

I think your 30CC can break 82, but the Bravo props are not designed to go 80+ my $.02


http://mercuryracing.com/propellers/3bladecleaver.php

Applications:
* Designed to run 80+ MPH with little bow lift
* For 150 - 300 HP outboards, Vee & air entrapment hulls


...and remove the tinted plexi glass :)

Noli your prop choice is waaaayyyyy off:lolhit:...clevers are run on only the fastest of V bottoms and are more suited to a boat that benefits from stern lift like a cat(most skaters run some sort of clever variant be it 3 or 4 blades)....

the Bravo 1 prop is well suited for running 80+ MPH on a v bottom and i have personally run v bottoms with this prop into the 90s......it offers enough of a balance of bow lift as well as stern lift that keeps step bottomed boats running very level which most step bottoms like (seans included)....

we still have alot more time to spend on the setup on seans boat and remember its not always about top end....there are for sure other props out there that will be faster on the top end by a few MPH but will sacrifice low and midrange performance as well as make the boat more difficult to plane off.....seans boat runs stellar numbers at cruise RPMs and planes off like a champion.....

in the end i think we will wind up settling for the propshafts about an inch below the bottom with the bravos for daily use and maybe a 4 blade ET Style prop for top end at a slightly higher prop shaft height but only testing and seat time will tell what the best setup is going to be....remember this is a one off boat that has never been done before...what works on other boats very well may not work in this application....and it sure is fun testing:evilb::evilb:........

have they done any prop testing on your boat yet?? i am dying to see how it runs.....big boat with torquey verados FTW......

Ahhh ok. That's why I almost always see cleavers on cats.

Cleavers DOES look mean though and I luv the look of sportmasters with cleavers :)

This is awesome prop class 101 !

My boat hasn't been set up yet I don't think, but will probably get Bravo wheels...the 34 is setup for cruising to get the highest MPG and not necessarily highest MPH so the props will be set up waaay deep.

Def will let you know as soon as I do what the perf numbers are. The speed-hungry side of me hopes she will break 75MPH at wot. The cruising side of me hopes she will get 2.5 MPG at cruise. Both will be tough to attain I think.

what's the schedule for this week on Sean's baaad boy?

What he said :coolcowboy:

For this week....just some more running time. This past weekend was really the first time I had her above 5000 for any extended time, and by extended, I mean maybe 20-30 seconds a pop at the most...just trying to break her in slowly, and get used to her. But I think seat time is key, just Saturday alone, George and I were maxing out around 75 mph, and a few hours later, I was doing 77 and getting a real feel for trim, etc.

My overall goal is to break 80+, but not lose that midrange and acceleration, then maybe have a 'top end' set of props. But I am loving cruising at 60 mph in the 4200-4400 rpm range, then take the occasional pull and get to 80 mph, will probably eventually want more, but for now...exactly what I want

And with the 4 blades, I am getting a decent low end planing speed, at like 30 mph, important for when the kid is on the boat

Noli- tell ocean to get movin!

I know it's only Tuesday, but any new updates yet?

[QUOTE=noli;3130694]I know it's only Tuesday, but any new updates yet?[/QUOT\
I know it;s only tues. What #'s do you have Noli?

...after Don Frost interiors, SAW34 goes to CMI for electronics install...:rolleyes:

Try some 3 blades, Choppers typically run well on V's. OMC SRX prop is popular, I ran them on the 33 PP and it liked them. Also Mercs mirage plus maybe??

Sean, are the motors raised another inch? Ready for more dialing in?

Going to accurate on monday to have engines raised and some other work done, I ran her today, hit 78 on the high end, 75 conistenty

A freind of mine has a 27 Activator with twin 200,s and liked choppers then tried bravos and loved them until he turned on the GPS. Control and handling was great but no speed. Then went to a set of ET,s and sold everything else. They where better across the board.

Yea, JC has been pushing the ET since the begining (but the four blade- which someone told me doesnt come in left handed and right handed- but who knows if that is true- I will have to research)

I think I will wind up with a 'family' prop and a speed prop. The thing I like about the bravo is it really gives me a decent low planning speed for when the kid is on board, and it igives you really good handling....so for a starter prop, it has worked out well.

We will be trying out a set of 30" bravos next weekend (a very generous costumer at accurate is loaning me a set for a few hours)..will be interesting to see the results

have you shopped for canvas yet ?

Canvases are done. Have a full boat cover for the driveway(not the easiest to get on, but is effective), a console cover, and I have what I call the 'quick cabin' canvas, which has velcro on it, can be attached to the handrails that run the length of the boat in front of the centerconsole and effectively make a small little cabin, to just have in case you want to change quick . Will try and post pics later

I dealt with AMC canvas in copaigue.....ask for Anthony, real good guy

I will def get in touch with A@AMC

Pics of the canvases pleeez !

You're suppose to be sharing pics with your brother Superboaters even if we don't ask.....buhahahaha :)

Yeah.... I'm sure thats what it'll get used for- changing:grinser010:


I have a feeling that it'll be used more for the "something like that":evilb:

Boat is off to Accurate now to have its 10 hour check up, gonn raise the motors and do some other odds and ends

Will get some pics up later this week. How is your boat coming Noli? You gonna be able to take her soon?

When OO releases SAW34 to me, it will sit at Don Frost for her turn to get the interior installed as there are other clients waiting for interior install


I should have a date by end-of-week when that will happen

Keep us posted with your canvas as that is work that can be done even while SAW34 is at OO. Because Idon't hink the canvas guy wants the have the hull at their place.

Sean, you picking up the CC from Accurate today? Dying to hear #'s with the motors raised.