Y2K, 2 questions for the experts
 

hey fellas,thinking about buying a Y2K, there is a 2005 on this site,what would be the cost to drop a new 496 HO or 525 into this boat complete turn key? Question #2, would you rather buy the 2005 and put the new motor in, or if the numbers are close, buy the 2008 w/525 (on this site) w/hours on it ? Thanks,

I would check with John @ superboat. I know he has some pretty good deals on new ones.
(631) 226-1761

A new 496HO will cost around 14-15K, a used 525, probably 15-20K. Plus some labor if you don't do it yourself.

As far as question #2, I don't think a fellow Superboater is going to publicly recommend either boat over the other.

I'm no longer a Superboater, so I guess it's OK I chime in.
I'd buy the used 2005 boat without power and install my own.
Probably cost less than half of the new one.
As for the 2008, that's half way in the middle $$ wise. It's turn key but no warrenty on a Merc blue engine. The headers on the 525s are an issue from what I've read and heard.
Both Superbabi, the 05, and the 2008 builds are documented here on OSO and FX10 built them, so the hulls are good ones.

Hey Jim,
Did you buy one yet?

I would Buy Mine!!!
Its Got Rick and JC latest bottom and...Ect...Ect...Ect...

"Just thought I'd put my two cents in"

2005 and do you own power, thats what I would do too.
sent you a pm.

The 2005 and 2008 are priced about the same,you buy a used 525 complete installed for around 20k which puts you at 57k asking for the 2005,the 2008 has the updated bottom and is 3 years newer 71k asking go look at both boats and figure out which one will work the best for you,cannot go wrong with either,if you go for the 2005 hull i do have a complete rebuilt merc 502-500 with new gil exhaust,dart heads I am working on it now and will be ready this winter should make around 550hp and priced around 10-12k could be an option for you

I understand it's a great deal, but the layup does matter if you intend to run it hard or put bigger power in some day. I would think they'll move quickly at that price regardless.

For some reason some post have been deleted.
Maybe that 65K price was not for real?
Or maybe OSO wants Superboat to pay for the advertizing?

Pat, my post completely vanished. Obviously it's time to change my password again!!

Strange thing Rick. I don't think someone logged in as you. The post would read deleted by you.
I do know last year when I had my boat for sale, some of my posts got deleted because I had not paid OSO the listing fee.
Only an educated guess, but your posts are probably monitored closely because you work for Superboat.

When posts are completely removed or vanished its by OSO.

Pat,
I would hardly consider this quote as advertising:
"For that price layup doesn't matter. I don't know which boat Coen is referring to. We have 2 Y2K's. Hunnington Beach's, and one at my shop. As for the 502? Noli, sure it wasn't a 496 Mag, or HO ?? With those motors you get a 6 year warranty on motor and drive, I'm pretty sure.
I believe Robs boat has the race layup, and the in stock boat is the standard layup."
I was simply stating which boats are available, which I habve been doing for years. No details, and no pictures. Hell. I post pictures of all the boats I build. And there are threads on both of the boats I mentioned.
Had you said that quote, would it have been deleted?

And if a Moderator deletes a post. It would be considerate to leave a message explaining why. My PM box is empty....................

Yea Rick, who knows.
My couple of my posts went puff too; probably because I had the price tag.
Anyway, back to the question in the thread. For the least amount of money, I'd go with the 2005 and a 500+HP engine that can be easily built for under 10K.

Pat, can you shed more light into this 500HP monster <$10K ?

how, who, where?

MRD charged me $24K back in early 90's

Hey Noli, Here is one example from MDGperf above.

I've worked with local machine shop here in CT that can do it.
I know many guys that have built 500+ 454s and 502s from new GM crate engines for under 8K including exhaust and accessaries.
Hell you can buy a marine 435HP/502 base engine from 1-800-runs new for less tha 6K and a cam upgrade for 500HP for a few hundred and get a 1 year warrenty.
I'm guessing your not a guy that has turned wrenches on a BBC befor...:rolleyes:

Here you are:
http://www.1800runsnew.com/

I'd say you paid double 15 years a go...:grinser010:

wow this sounds promising and they're right in my backyard.

Ma !


Have you used any Panther engines yet?

I was actually an apprentice at rebuilding 350 blocks a local garage when I was 16. I abused my back working around engines and cars, and never returned...I miss it alot

No.
Part of the boating hobby for me is to build my own engines.
Helping a buddy rebuild his 525SC right now.

do you have any pics of this rebuild in any thread in OSO? would luv to follow your rebuild.

No thread for the 525SC.
Here's a couple of pictures from 5 years ago.
Gregg paid $6500 for this rebuilt 525 back then. He lost the cam this past summer so it's time to rebuild again.

The other engine is the 502 stocker I have in my boat now.
I did have a thread here in the Superboat forum when I built it for my 24.

awesome pics Pat, keep 'em comin' !

Hey Pat, what's this cam to get a base GM crate engine to 500 hp? I'm looking at a boat this weekend that has a pair of new crate 502s (the 415 hp variety) and it would be great if you could add a bunch more power simply. Would you mind going into the details of the full setup?

Just trying to back up my opinion of the most cost effective way to get into one of the Y2Ks on the market.

If it were me, I'd beat on Gary for a good deal for Superbabi, then build a 500HP/489cube stroker EFI from the 1999 Volvo 7.4GL I have sitting in my basement. I've got the AZ Speed Intake, 500EFI valve train and...ready to go.

Call Crane for the Merc 500EFI stuff or call Comp Cams.
They both have kits.
Precision Marine has the program for the ECU.
Call Mark at 504 469 7463.
Upgrading the 415HP/502MagMPI to at 500HP is a piece of cake for most engine builders.
If you have a carb engine, Crane 731 is the most common cam upgrade for a 500/502.

Now that's what I'm talkin' about...!!!

Pat, I'd luv to see your work someday!

As Pat said, back to the thread. My Y2K will be on a RED TAG SPECIAL, This weekend only !!!!

Thanks a lot, Pat! I really appreciate it! :drink:

Thanks Pat. A Great deal can be had on my Y2K, getting ready to order new boat !!!

Thanks for all the reply's, very helpful, does anyone have anymore info on the 6 year warranty on a 496 HO motor+drive? a Y2K should run in the upper 60's with that set up?

I called Mercruiser at (405) 743 - 6566

and they said that the 496 Mag and 496 Mag HO are discontinued.

HO 425 hp should get you 72 mph. I have 496 HO located.

TJBHAWK, what type of boat do you have?

This is true but there are some still out there. Whats next for ya Gary? Either Y2K seems like a great deal!!! I would personally try to step up to a 525efi. Its just a great motor.

I personally would go with Gary's Y2K, get that 496 that Gary found ride it for a year or two then upgrade the engine to 500+ when you've saved up some cash.

You'll have a Merc in your back, plus what I like:

* PCM 555 with SmartCraft CAN Capability
* Sequential Multi-Point Electronic Fuel Injection
* 2-pieceLong Runner intake with 75mm Throttle Body (80mm w/DTS)
* Distributorless Ignition w/Knock Control and Platinum Spark Plugs
* Closed Cooling, Long Life 5-Year Anti-Freeze, Brass Sea Water Pump

my .02

The 496 ho is a great engine but only makes 425 hp and not a good engine to upgrade(very expensive and has cast internals)If low 70 will work for you it would be a great choice,most people will get bored quickly with that power,for apox the same price 14k or so you could get a rebuilt 550-600 package that would be perfect for the hull and still work with the xr,the 496 is no longer made but merc has a limited supply of cpo units available thru merc dealers,i am a merc dealer and can offer great deals if interested,the y2k hull loves speed and hp

MDG, can you show us pics of the 502-500 550HP with new gil exhaust,dart heads ?


would luv to see it! That would be the way to go....$49K asking

I spent $45K on my SB24 :eek:

The block and heads are at the machine shop as we speak,going to build it this winter will take some pics,engine is a merc 502-500 going to bore to 4.5 ,some of the upgrades include crower i beam rods,world products heads with new manley valves,world intake fully reconditioned engine dyno tested,engine will be fully rigged with all merc accessories ready to bolt in,the gil exhaust has low hrs on them,going to upgrade the cam so final hp should be around 550-600,this would be a great engine for the y2k as it is complete not a base engine that needs all the rigging,accessories and exhaust that really add up in cost