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Dave M 03-13-2005 10:12 AM

Hey Krakmeup
 
Krackmeup,

I was looking for the picture of your 496 engine cover installed but could not find it. Could you repost it?

Dave

krakmeup 03-13-2005 10:46 AM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
3 Attachment(s)
No Problem-o!

Pat McPherson 03-13-2005 12:51 PM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
Hey Dave,
Did you raise your hatch?
Have you splashed her yet?

Keith, I like the change!

krakmeup 03-14-2005 08:03 AM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
Thanks Pat!

It may be incentive to do the Raylar heads instead of the Whipple! Thoughts? I think I 'll start one of 'those' threads.....

Pat McPherson 03-14-2005 11:06 AM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
Hey Krakmeup,
I would not supercharge the new Chevy 8.1. It has cast pistons that will not hold up to the heat.
Both Whipple and Raylar have great head and intake upgrades though.
I like the aluminum head and 1.8 rocker choise from Raylar. For under $3,000 you can bolt on a pair of those babys and gain 50-60HP. That should be good for 4-5mph.
If you go with the new intake and cam you end up with a 525HP, but I'm not sure another $3,000 is worth it. Choise 2 is also a lot more work, and if your not a do it your selfer, more $$.
Keith, do you have a standard Bravo drive?
If so, you probably don't want to push more than 500HP without a drive upgrade too...
Run that baby until the warrenty is up first; then it's time to tinker... :drink:
Enjoy your early spring!

Dave M 03-14-2005 03:03 PM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
Thanks Keith,

The stock plastic cover is hitting the back of my seat. It looks like the custom cover does not come as far forward as the plastic cover.

Hey Patrick,

I bolted some 2x2 angle iron to the gunnels and got rid of those cheesy fiberglass pieces. I raised the hatch about 2.5 inches. I will post some pics soon. I have to do a few interior mods.

I haven't fired her up yet. I just finished rigging my steering. I'm waiting till I don't see any sub-freezing temps in the 10 day forcast. We are still below average temps down here.

Dave

Pat McPherson 03-14-2005 09:43 PM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 

Originally Posted by Dave M
I bolted some 2x2 angle iron to the gunnels and got rid of those cheesy fiberglass pieces.

I'm waiting till I don't see any sub-freezing temps in the 10 day forcast. We are still below average temps down here.
Dave

Please do post a couple of shots. Sounds like a good fix for the cracked hatch supports in my boat.

Below average temps and above average snow fall for us the last month... :rolleyes:

I may as well go skiing again this weekend... :drink:

krakmeup 03-15-2005 08:14 AM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
Pat - thanks for all the great info and wisdom! I'm kicking things around now, my plan is to go through this season stock and then in our short winter do some mods next year. I like the heads and intake ideas, though I'm hearing a lot of talk about chargers at low boost (~5psi) on the 496. But, as you mention, the internals are not as robust and no long term studies are out yet, so my timing will be good I hope.

The first thing I need help with is those damn rattle traps in the exhaust - they HAVE to go, it sounds like the engine will grenade at idle! What are they, do I need them, are there quiet versions of same? We're talking about the lead weighted anti-reversion flaps inside the stock exhaust JC installed; I have no idea who makes them, but I will be exploring them very SOON. I will probably look at the GGB mufflers (no real hp loss) and removing the 'turbulator' plates as described here on OSO.

As the season winds down I'll add external steering and then some engine mods. At least that's my thoughts today......
Keith

Pat McPherson 03-15-2005 11:36 AM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
Hey Keith,
I am not sure what type of exhaust tips JC installed on your boat.
The latest thing is to have internal stainless flappers rather than the old style rubber on the outside.
I have Eddie Marine muffler tips with the internal flapper. The rubber seal burns off after a while and they start rattling like hell at low RPM.
You can cut the flapper out and install the rubber ones on the out side. I would not run without flappers as they keep water from going up the exhaust when your backing up or just hanging with the engine off.
As for steering: Speek to the Guys at CP performance. They have 3 or 4 systems to choose from. If I were you, I would install a twin piston "add on system". Two piston will help you gimble last because the drive is held from both sides. Full hyrdaulic at the helm is the best but a lot more $$...
Happy Boating!

SUPERSTITIOUS 03-15-2005 04:54 PM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
Im having JC use the straight cut exhaust tips from mercury. They have an internal rubber flapper mounted at ut a 60degree angle that rests on a stainless plate with holes in it. I went this route because 1) if they go bad there is a flush set screw at the bottom of the exhaust outlet. Just unscrew it slide the thing out and replace as necessary. 2)NO RATTELING! That sort of thing drives me CRAZY! 3) ease of changing...Oh and Im gonna put the external rubber flapper an as well. Reversion is a four letter word. I may also go with the gibson clamp on straight mufflers and at that point put the flappers on the end of them(they will fit). If you want to see what Im talking about go to Merc Racing and watch the video on the features of the 525 and thell show you the internal flappers I was referring to...

SUPERSTITIOUS 03-15-2005 05:57 PM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
Hotboat did a test with mufflers, Gibson was one of the lesser priced mufflers $499 for the ones I was referring to. w/decent results. There was one in particular that had the best results on the 525 comparison but the name is eluding me at the moment.. A straight clamp-om with what looked like a small propeller type diverter in it to swirl the exhaust gasses on exit. Virtually no rpm or mph loss. Pretty tough to test all these mufflers all day long(on the water) with slight variations in conditions and expect to exact results

SUPERSTITIOUS 03-15-2005 09:57 PM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
The name I was trying to think of was Zoomer Cyclones.

Superbabi 03-16-2005 05:20 AM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
GarY, Do You Think It's That Important To Have External Rubber Flappers On Exhaust Pipe Ends, Being There Are Internal Ones ????

SUPERSTITIOUS 03-16-2005 08:44 AM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
Very cheap insurance. With all that your investing, I'd say DO IT!

SUPERSTITIOUS 03-16-2005 08:45 AM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
The link for the zoomers is www.zoomersexhaust.com

SUPERSTITIOUS 03-16-2005 08:46 AM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
These tips and the gibsons will accept the flappers on their ends as well

z.zuperboat 03-16-2005 08:58 AM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
How much are the zoomers.Look pretty cool.But on the long side.

SUPERSTITIOUS 03-16-2005 09:07 AM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
$799.00 for the pair

z.zuperboat 03-16-2005 09:40 AM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
Thats more than I want to spend. Just looked at the clamps holding them on. Not part of the muffler. NOT PRETTY. Who has the mag with the results?

SUPERSTITIOUS 03-16-2005 09:45 AM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
THe zomers had the best results on the 525. Hotboat last issue. Gibsons $499 a pair...

Pat McPherson 03-16-2005 09:50 AM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
Guys,
Eddie Marine has a number of Muffler tips available for $300 to $700.
I talked to them two weeks ago. They have mufflers designed around California Laws for the HP525 with no power loss...
I will probably upgrade mine to their Big Gun if I have losses with my current tips.

krakmeup 03-16-2005 06:14 PM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
Thanks for all the good input guys. OHZONE it sounds like you have a great idea with the straight cut tips - that's prob what I will switch out to, and add the external flaps also. Then if later I actually need muffsI can add something easily.

Pat McPherson 03-16-2005 07:45 PM

Re: Hey Krakmeup
 
Personally I don't like the clamp on style mufflers; they get long and can fall off. If I need to upgrade from the muffler inserts, I will buy new tips with the muffler integral. There are more and more choices for reasonable $$ these days.
Like OH-Zone suggests, I run with both internal and external flappers... :cool:
My cousin lost and engine while beached... :(
One of his flappers had burned off and a boat wake splashed up the exhaust into the engine... :eek:


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