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wstultz 10-10-2007 10:44 AM

Coolest 39 ever...for sale
 
I saw this while searching through e-bay. This is the fattest 39 ever imho. I believe it used to belong to Fred @ Trick marine...Fred correct me if I'm wrong. It would make someone a sweet a$$ wave crusher.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...link:middle:us

lucky strike 10-10-2007 10:55 AM

Sweet boat but u need alot of H.P. to go fast.

LS

bigandy 10-10-2007 11:43 AM

2x800's would make it go how fast?? just curious i know where some are?

BODYSHOT1 10-10-2007 12:15 PM

yep..that was Fred's...don't think it's seen the water in some time.

Stormrider 10-10-2007 01:30 PM

2x800 maybe 90?

REDDEATH 10-15-2007 01:14 PM

39 Sutphen
 
A little info here.A few months ago i looked into buying this boat.To complete the project the boat needs the following items (remember we are talking staggered 6 drive set up )complete engine assemblys with trannys bell housings ect (from soup to nuts the boat has nothing under the hatches )headers, tailpipes mufflers, props ,drive tie bar.Add in the above plus rigging and you are into 6 figures on top of the price of a 12 plus year old hull.

REDDEATH 10-15-2007 01:25 PM

PS the broker who was selling the boat offered to complete it for 150 grand using used blower engines ect ,To me at least considering the age of the hull and overall boating market way too much money

MikeyFIN 10-15-2007 02:00 PM

And it will run with "the best" of them 41A´s in snot...

REDDEATH 10-15-2007 02:07 PM

Too funny i just checked out the appraisel the owner provided for the ebay auction.The appraised value (nada )of this boat is 96500.00.Correct me if i am wrong but that value is based on a complete running boat not a hull with out power,

27 MAGNUM 10-15-2007 06:42 PM

Agree, a running boat with power that you can hear run and drive before shelling out any money. This guy has to get real and understand that. And yes unless you own a hi-pef. bone yard its big bucks to complete and splash her.

AIR TIME 10-15-2007 08:15 PM

that moron paided about that for the boat with 1000hps in it 3yrs ago, so he took the motors trans, headers, so on off and is trying sell it.:violent-smiley-045: F him that hull without the power is worth 40,000 gs its a phucken 1995 hull. OH i LOVE SUTPHENS, BUT THIS GUYS nuts, unless someone thinks its worth paying 100,000 for power and 98,ooo for the boat. he should of left it in one piece sold it.

REDDEATH 10-16-2007 01:12 PM

You guys are Exactly correct this is why it has been for sale for years.

REDDEATH 10-16-2007 01:20 PM

PS i researched the boats history .Fred at Trick sold the boat to Parnell (complete with a pair of 1100 blower engines ) for approx 115 grand.Parnell ran the boat then took the engines ect out (to use on a Saber)and sold the boat to the current owner for approx 45 grand.The current owner put a new floor in the cockpit and redid the guages ect and he now wants 70-90 grand for what amounts to a hukk with 2 number6 drives (who knows in what condition)To make the Sutphen seaworthy using a majority of USED PARTS you will be close to a total expenditure of 150 grand ,Way too much (for me at least )for a 13 year old boat

REDDEATH 10-16-2007 03:54 PM

Recent high bid on Ebay (no reserve met )is over 70 .One of twop things is happening either the owner himself is bidding on his own boat (to try to drive up the price since there is a reserve )or some poor *astard is actually trying to buy the thing for 70gs not knowing what it cost to complete a staggered number 6 drive boat (we aint talkin side by side Bravos )here.

bob 10-16-2007 05:07 PM

If anyone has any lines on 1995 40' boats with "reportedly" fresh 1st gen sixes with a fairly new trailer and a nice interior pls let me know. You don't normally find those configs for 40k. Bravos perhaps. Problem with this package is that it is an expensive package and difficult to justify in a Sutphen due to re-sale ability. New boats with these drive lines sell at 1/2 M. Ain't "toys R Us". Ars for every seat:)

REDDEATH 10-16-2007 05:29 PM

Bob, the problem is to buy the boat as is and complete it using alot of used parts (mainly engines )your at a bottom line total of 150 grand plus.Much newer boats with 6s can be had for that.For example SC Performance just sold a 2000 42 Cig Tiger 1000 Merscs in exc condition for around 150 gs.Shogrun Fountain has a 2000 42 Outerlimits 6 drive for around 175 with Merc 1000s.There is a bad 97 LS Scarab available twin 1000s with 6s for around 100 grand.

REDDEATH 10-16-2007 05:40 PM

Check out the LS Scarab in the Offshore only classified.The boat is a 97, shows almost new (trailer included )has staggered Merc 1000 SC and can be had for around 100,000.Iam told it runs an easy 105 mph.

bob 10-16-2007 07:30 PM

I agree. If you have to buy the parts and labor to put a deal like that back together...forget it. If you happen to have the parts and can do the labor then maybe worth lookin at? Definetly not a situation to buy and put together and expect to sell in a couple years and breakeven. To go buying the parts I am with you, might make it a challenge. When the package was together, it couldn't bring over $80 or so, 5 years ago, when the re-sale market was much better.

jdub 10-16-2007 07:57 PM

Go get it Bob, I'll give you a hand with the labor:D

REDDEATH 10-16-2007 08:13 PM

If you had the parts already this boat definately would be a Sutphen for the ages(from what i understand there are not to many staggered 6 drive Sutphens around-this is what sparked my initial interest ).I spoke with Parnell who was the last owner to actually run the boat and he was quite impressed with its overall performance.Who knows maybe if it doesnot sell on e-bay the owner may lower the price.

REDDEATH 10-18-2007 10:46 AM

The time of the Ebay auction expired (the seller actually lowered the reserve price )and the boat was not sold .If the owner is an offshore only member and reads this i am still interested in this boat at a price indicitave of what is needed to complete this package relative to what a 1995 38 Sutphen is worth in TODAYS market.Please send me a Email.

jafo 10-20-2007 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by REDDEATH (Post 2307484)
PS i researched the boats history .Fred at Trick sold the boat to Parnell (complete with a pair of 1100 blower engines ) for approx 115 grand.Parnell ran the boat then took the engines ect out (to use on a Saber)and sold the boat to the current owner for approx 45 grand.The current owner put a new floor in the cockpit and redid the guages ect and he now wants 70-90 grand for what amounts to a hukk with 2 number6 drives (who knows in what condition)

You are correct with the players, just a little off on the chronology. I looked at buying this boat years ago when it was still in Florida and owned by a gentleman that also has a 36 Skater. It started out life as a triple, and was converted to a staggered twin by Sutphen. The final rigging was completed by TNT with twin 900 Chiefs and dry-sump sixes, and ran 105.
When I was considering it, the asking price was $100K, a pretty damn good buy.
Parnell picked up the boat and used the running gear for a Saber 41, but did run the boat in Lake Michigan prior to removing the power, and was impressed with it.
The boat was then sold to Fred who equipped it with wet-sump sixes and blower motors and sold it prior to getting it wet.
I have some pics somewhere of it when it was still in Florida and will post if I can dig them up- timing wasn't right for me; I wish I could have bought it. Parnell was the winner on this one!
Jim

later 10-21-2007 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by jafo (Post 2312226)
You are correct with the players, just a little off on the chronology. I looked at buying this boat years ago when it was still in Florida and owned by a gentleman that also has a 36 Skater. It started out life as a triple, and was converted to a staggered twin by Sutphen. The final rigging was completed by TNT with twin 900 Chiefs and dry-sump sixes, and ran 105.
When I was considering it, the asking price was $100K, a pretty damn good buy.
Parnell picked up the boat and used the running gear for a Saber 41, but did run the boat in Lake Michigan prior to removing the power, and was impressed with it.
The boat was then sold to Fred who equipped it with wet-sump sixes and blower motors and sold it prior to getting it wet.
I have some pics somewhere of it when it was still in Florida and will post if I can dig them up- timing wasn't right for me; I wish I could have bought it. Parnell was the winner on this one!
Jim

i believe the boat was sold by fred less motors

later

REDDEATH 10-21-2007 11:35 AM

IF i could get into the entire package for around 90-100 grand and have a 100 mph Staggered Sutphen i would go for it today (regardless of the hulls age ).This boat is a very unique piece.

bob 10-21-2007 08:19 PM

Sutphen's are unique....that's why they don't have a used market value. Been one of the best kept boating secrets since the early 80's :)

REDDEATH 10-23-2007 04:31 PM

Its a shame the boats were-are not marketed better since they are one of the best built hulls out there (esp in the rough)This 39 would be a perfect fit for me because where i intend to boat a traditional v has certain advantages over a stepped hull.(the stepped may be faster but in the Atlantic Ocean off NJ you will not really be able to run over 100 anyway ,just too rough)

REDDEATH 11-07-2007 05:16 PM

Any one know what happened to this boat (was it ever sold ect )

bob 11-09-2007 06:40 AM

Reddeath, I tried to put something together but we couldn't get together on number. I don't have trannies and exhaust laying around and the parts needed just make the end cost unrealistic, at least if you were to try and sell it maybe a couple years down the road.

REDDEATH 11-09-2007 12:55 PM

Bob you are 100% correct and this is the exact reason that the boat has sat uncompeted ,unsold for years further depreciating as time goes on (especially in a totally horrible boat sales market).

REDDEATH 11-09-2007 01:04 PM

PS I found Randy (Cobra Power )estimate to complete the above Sutphen using the following- rebuilt 1000 hp blower engines ,rebuilt Bam 1500 trannys ,slightly used CMI Headers ,tailpipes,mufflers(staggered configeration ) used props, new tie bar.Without rigging it was 65000.00 in parts alone,

REDDEATH 11-24-2007 02:42 PM

Any new info .The boat does not appear to be advertised anywhere ,anymore.

REDDEATH 11-25-2007 02:18 PM

ps Is the boat still being brokered by Powerquest in Holland Michigan?

bob 11-27-2007 10:03 PM

I have not heard a peep about the 39. I am hanging with the one I have. Ran it earlier this week in the gulf with a bunch of other hot rods and without a doubt the hull holds it's own in the snot. On smooth water, different deal. Life is good :D

REDDEATH 12-10-2007 05:45 PM

That boat was made for the Atlantic Ocean off New Jersey.Until you have actually run in it its hard to describe (ask anyone that has ever run the Point Pleasant race.)From dead flat to over TRUE 6 Footers in an hour with the change of the wind.

REDDEATH 02-09-2008 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by bob (Post 2350722)
I have not heard a peep about the 39. I am hanging with the one I have. Ran it earlier this week in the gulf with a bunch of other hot rods and without a doubt the hull holds it's own in the snot. On smooth water, different deal. Life is good :D

Up here the only smooth water where you could run a 40 footer over 100 mph would be the Shrewsbury or Navasink Rivers .In either case the New Jersey State Police would probably impound the boat and escort the owner to jail.As i said in my earlier post the Atlantic Ocean (9 out of 10days) is just too rough to run that kind of speed without taking your life in your hands.

bob 02-09-2008 11:28 PM

Yup, no doubt the Atlantic is tough. Ran that thing almost every summer weekend from 86 through 98 out of Little Egg Inlet. Back in the days when we had lots of action outside:D.

BattleCry 02-10-2008 05:29 AM

The COOLEST 39 Ever is NAS-T owned by Bill Dahl of East Peoria IL. All Black with Red and White Decals. Twin Lamborghini V-12's. Its been around since '91 and has done a 100 Poker Runs.

REDDEATH 02-10-2008 05:24 PM

Bob since you boated in both how would you compare the water off NJ with Florida?

bob 02-11-2008 09:42 PM

Compared to the Gulf side, Atlantic is much more difficult to run fast in. Swells vs wave action in Gulf. On the East side of FL I would say the water is close to the same as Atlantic. Atlantic we get the NE winds, which with tides and swells and such can make things enteresting. Personally I really like the Gulf for running. In the Atlantic it probably helps to have a boat that is good on re-entry and not prone to stuffing and definetly have more air time than Gulf side:D

REDDEATH 02-13-2008 07:17 AM

As i mentioned earlyier months i am finally going to Canada to check out the LS Scarab next week.Since i am now ACTIVELY looking for a staggered number 6 drive boat in the 40 foot range if anyone knows of a SUTPHEN (Apache ect )that is available at a realistic price please give me a call at (732)977-7244 thanks Joe.


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