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Old 12-23-2009 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by shaun harrington
i personally saw the boat just before i bought my 33, i was told it was herb chambers boat. i was looking for a boat without power, but was not ready for that much of a project, it needs a ton of work.
she be ruff ! U have seen way better, off topic, can ya look @ the well if I get ya hooked up ?

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Old 12-28-2009 | 07:32 PM
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I looked at it in 07 last time I saw it in the town of norton mass. paint was peeling from deck, motors were in boat I recall 540s with stelling headers that need work. they wanted 22,000 with traler complete. hear it sold for 17000 last year one guy took the motors headers other took boat trailer. but it needs a ton of work was not covered right so bring a meter to check for water.in the core
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Old 12-28-2009 | 10:13 PM
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Did you guys ever hear of a product that can be injected into a wet core and it will harden the sore wood like new?

I read something about this last year somewhere and didnt think much of it because my boat has always been stored very well but I would imagine it would be very helpful for the many boats that have wet cores.

anyone know anything about it?
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Old 12-29-2009 | 09:52 AM
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I think J.C. Whitney sells it. Seriously, how would you ever dry it out first and then insure that the epoxy or whatever it is gets thoroughly injected into the rotten wood? Maybe something like that would work for a non-critical soft spot in the cockpit floor but I can't imagine it would be a long term solution to rot in the transom.
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Old 12-29-2009 | 04:25 PM
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so...
is cranston where old sutphens go to die?
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Old 12-29-2009 | 06:11 PM
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Maybe its Rhode Island in general thats the offshore boat graveyard. I rescued my Formula from a yard in Westerly R.I.
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Old 12-29-2009 | 09:34 PM
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This stuff I read about used the water in the wood core to help make it stronger.


This type of thing:
(1) Eastern Michigan University, USA


Abstract Novel isocyanate-free moisture curepolyurethane coatings with excellent properties have been formulated and evaluated. These coatings utilize polyols derived from the renewable resource soybean oil and its simple derivatives. The coating is autocatalytic and does not require continuous exposure to moisture for the development of full properties. A series of soybean oil-based polyols were synthesized by treating either the raw oil or epoxidized soybean oil (ESO) by a variety of reagents including long chain fatty acids. In a series of model reactions the above polyols were reacted with various diisocyanate compounds, at molar ratio of NCO/OH=1.5:1–3:1 to obtain prepolymers with residual NCO% of around 1.8. The isocyanate-free moisture curable resin was obtained by coapping the prepolymer with of aminosilane followed by the addition of a small amount of methanol. Typical clearcoat formulations become tack-free in less than an hour, recoatable in about one hour, and reach a functional cure stage in 24 hr at 40% RH and 25°C.
Presented at the 79th Annual Meeting of the Federation of Societies for Coatings Technology, in Atlanta, GA, Nov. 5–7, 2001.
Coatings Research Institute, 430 W. Forest Ave., Ypsilanti, MI, 48197.

As I recall it was in the back of one of the coatings manufacturers brochures when I was looking for isocyanate free coatings to paint my 20 sutphen.
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Old 12-29-2009 | 10:03 PM
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here is some interesting reading IMO:
http://www.yachtsurvey.com/moisture_meters.htm
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Old 12-30-2009 | 10:18 AM
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Sounds pretty cool if it actually works in practice. Do you know if it's been used for boat core repair applications? It sounds like an industrial process that is still being developed.

"The current difficulties with some of the biobased polymers in commercial application are mainly due to their inferior mechanical and thermophysical properties in comparison with the conventional petroleum-based polymers that are intended to replace. Therefore, it is currently difficult to completely replace petroleum-based polymer materials for nothing more than the necessary mechanical and thermophysical properties."

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This stuff I read about used the water in the wood core to help make it stronger.


This type of thing:
(1) Eastern Michigan University, USA


Abstract Novel isocyanate-free moisture curepolyurethane coatings with excellent properties have been formulated and evaluated. These coatings utilize polyols derived from the renewable resource soybean oil and its simple derivatives. The coating is autocatalytic and does not require continuous exposure to moisture for the development of full properties. A series of soybean oil-based polyols were synthesized by treating either the raw oil or epoxidized soybean oil (ESO) by a variety of reagents including long chain fatty acids. In a series of model reactions the above polyols were reacted with various diisocyanate compounds, at molar ratio of NCO/OH=1.5:1–3:1 to obtain prepolymers with residual NCO% of around 1.8. The isocyanate-free moisture curable resin was obtained by coapping the prepolymer with of aminosilane followed by the addition of a small amount of methanol. Typical clearcoat formulations become tack-free in less than an hour, recoatable in about one hour, and reach a functional cure stage in 24 hr at 40% RH and 25°C.
Presented at the 79th Annual Meeting of the Federation of Societies for Coatings Technology, in Atlanta, GA, Nov. 5–7, 2001.
Coatings Research Institute, 430 W. Forest Ave., Ypsilanti, MI, 48197.

As I recall it was in the back of one of the coatings manufacturers brochures when I was looking for isocyanate free coatings to paint my 20 sutphen.
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Old 12-30-2009 | 07:50 PM
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whoa!..
isocyanate-free, prepolymers, soybean oil-based polyols, methanol....add some xanthan gum and i think you just made ice cream....

youse guys is two freekin smaaahhtt!

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