I have a pair, L&R, 33P Throttle Ups in perfect condition. As far as I know these are Hydromotive P5's worked by Throttle up Propellers. I tried them on my cat and the boat didn't like them. I bought them like this so I don't know what has been done to them. They are not cut down just looks like they,ve been labbed and are perfect. No hubs included. $1200. shipped to USA.