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Old 06-07-2005, 12:46 AM
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Looking at new trucks. Traded my 250 SD off for a Jeep Wrangler a couple months ago, and Jeep doesn't pull the boat so well. Even got the 4.0L in it too! So it's back to big trucks.
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The 150 actually has 100# more towing capacity than the 250. Both trucks with the 5.4, 3.73 axles, 4x4. The 150 has a 4 sp auto tranny, vs the 5 sp auto in the 250. Probably a weak link?? Want the new torque shift auto tranny ford has now for towing to compete with GM's Allison, but none to be found in a 800 dealership search mated to the 5.4L. Anyone have this tranny and opinions?
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Gotta agree with Troutly, I've got an 04 S/Duty with a 6.0 and the 5spd automatic,,probable the single best improvement Ford has made on the S/D in years, The 5.4 in the S/D has absolutely no resale value, and with the gvw of the f250 the 5.4 is marginal at best,,,,if you don't want to go for the 6.0 powerstroke, opt out for the v10, you'll be a much happier camper in the long run.
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Thanks, but my last truck was a '00 250 SD with the 5.4L and it was fine as far as pulling power. I could still run 85 pulling the boat no problem, I'm just taching a little more than the V-10. I borrowed a friends V-10 Excursion a month ago to take the boat to the lake and was not all that impressed. Was expecting more power than what it had. Plus I 'll get better fuel economy all the time. 3-4mpg higher was my average over my buddies. Since I tow just a couple times a yr, the everyday use takes precident. Working on a deal on a new 250 now with the 5.4L. Since the new ones have more HP and torque over my '00 did, it is just that much better. I'm not so sure about the V-10 resale factor. Our dealer said they do not order the V-10 for lot sales, only per customer. Over 25 SD's on lot, no V-10's. They said they do not sell them as easliy, as those wanting extra towing power, go all out for the disel.
Yes, XLT loaded is what I'm looking at.
Now the Torqueshift tranny sounds like the cats meow, but none available w/o ordering a new '06. And as Troutly stated, the regular tranny is up to par for my use. Just the sound of power braking is kewl! With the incenatives offered on the '05's and my X-plan option, just got me thinking about trading off the Jeeper. I was just shocked at the same tow rating of both similar equiped trucks. 150 vs 250
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Very interesting to know!
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Well, as it appears, the reason my salesperson can not find a Torqueshift tranny in his search of 800 dealers on the 5.4, is because all 5 sp autos are the torqueshift according to the Ford site. Just not listed as torqueshift on the stickers other than on the disels.
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Like anything else, it's all subject to opinions and possibly the area you live in,,Down here in Fl. the dealers tell you that the 5.4 has no resale except in the base trucks(work truck) and all they order is 6.0 p/s and V10s
for the lariats/xlts etc...No matter what you buy/want,,,,good luck
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I could type for hours on this one...
My work truck is the same thing you're talking about....
'05 250 5.4 SC 4x4, TQ 5 spd. 3.73 gears

I drive it every day. 80% of the miles are towing something...from 2500lb to 10,500 lbs.

The truck itself is nice. the ride is good, except for washboards or bridge joints, where things get scary very fast...

The 5.4 does very well for what it is...for what it is. Yes, this is the new 3v engine and 5 speed auto.
The trans is the life saver for this engine... It is a "smart" tranny. It downshifts like the Allison, though not quite as well behaved overall as the Allison.

This engine is very, very sensitive to air temp.
For example: I pulled 8,000lb for 200 miles begining in the morning.. all highway. I was able to dial in 75 mph for the first hour.. then it fell off at about 10am..and would not want to hold 70.
It has been like this since new. Truck now has 17,000 on it.

Oh, and they try to vapor lock after a good spanking... Stop to gas up and than it takes four or five key cycles to light off again....

I said the trans is the life saver... You'll learn just how to pedal the thing to get it to pull.
It pulls at 3000rpm at 70mph. Feathering the throttle a bit gets the TC to unlock then rpms go to 3100, but speed jumps up to 75... I know I know, but the temp gauge never moves...

This trans is a bit silly going from R to D... Hesitation and shudder sometimes...
It gets 12 mpg empty (bed cover) and 6mpgs pulling 10,000.
Range is short with the small tank in the short box.

Can you order it with 4.10 gears???

Want this truck???
My contract with BRP is up at the end of the month....


The V10 was only a $600 option. I'd be with the V10..

This truck feels like an electric golf cart compared to my DMax...
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One more tid bit..
A co-worker has a 150 crew 4x4 with the 5.4.
Same load, the 150 will out pull this truck pretty well.
I guess the big trans and slightly heavier truck kill it.
He has pulled 10k with it, but has gone through two rear axles already.

The 250 stops much better.

What are you pulling????????????????????????
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There's one aspect everyone always overlooks. Pulling power is great but if it takes off a bit slower, well... that's merely an inconvenience. If it won't stop, you have a real problem

The F250 uses the same brakes as the 350 and Excursion. They are substantially larger than the 150's. i believe the 150 still has single piston calipers.
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