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Old 09-18-2005, 07:40 AM
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Thanks for all of the replies! I think that I am going to hang on to my 2500 HD. It does everything that I need it to do and I still have 30k miles and a couple of years left on my 100k warranty. The other reason is that the AV is black and I swore a long time ago that I will never own another black vehicle unless I stole it or it's a sports car that I can keep in the garage year round. I think that black vehicles are really nice looking, but the are SOOO hard to keep clean. (My 2500 HD is pueter)
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I really like the 2500 Avalanche myself and have been considering purchasing a used one. I brought my boat home yesterday with my buddies 2003 2500 Yukon XL w/ 8.1 and 3.73's. On the way to the lake empty, I could not get the instant economy over 10 mpg. I tried it at 55,60,65,70 mph. On the way home I could not get it over 8 mpg at 60 mph, ususally it was 5-6 mpg and on the hills I just looked away. I think it cost me 6 bucks just to get up one hill. I think I may need to to re-assess my plan and save up a few more nickels and get a diesel.
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Originally Posted by BGIII
I really like the 2500 Avalanche myself and have been considering purchasing a used one. I brought my boat home yesterday with my buddies 2003 2500 Yukon XL w/ 8.1 and 3.73's. On the way to the lake empty, I could not get the instant economy over 10 mpg. I tried it at 55,60,65,70 mph. On the way home I could not get it over 8 mpg at 60 mph, ususally it was 5-6 mpg and on the hills I just looked away. I think it cost me 6 bucks just to get up one hill. I think I may need to to re-assess my plan and save up a few more nickels and get a diesel.

Diesels take about 150k to 200k miles to pay for themselves.
Diesel fuel is $ .20 a gallon more around here right now. The cost of a diesel package in a truck is about $5k over the gas engine. Do the math.

BN: Your 2500 HD is a great truck, add a K & N and a Predator or Hypertech and you will be amazed at the HP increase. My 2500 Avalanche is a great truck and I love it. But Sydwayz is right, your truck is a great truck also.

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Diesels take about 150k to 200k miles to pay for themselves.
Diesel fuel is $ .20 a gallon more around here right now. The cost of a diesel package in a truck is about $5k over the gas engine. Do the math.
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Wannabe,

Please elaborate on the math. I cannot make it work.
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Usually diesels are about 7K more expensive. Don't forget is costs about $40 to change the oil yourself and you have to find somewhere to dispose of the used oil.
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BN: Your 2500 HD is a great truck, add a K & N and a Predator or Hypertech and you will be amazed at the HP increase. My 2500 Avalanche is a great truck and I love it. But Sydwayz is right, your truck is a great truck also.

Wannabe[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the ideas. Do you mean just a regular K&N or the ram air? Also, is the Predator or Hypertech a chip or reprogrammer?

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Usually diesels are about 7K more expensive. Don't forget is costs about $40 to change the oil yourself and you have to find somewhere to dispose of the used oil.
7K retail maybe.

real cost 5K and you'll get ALL of it back on resale!!

In reality you can drive a diesel for nothing additional if you look at both end$.

$40 to change the oil? Wix/NAPA Gold filter and 10 qts of Delo 400 is a little less than that, and after the first couple you can go 7-10K between changes. Compare that to what you'll spend over time changing the oil in your gasser every 3K.

change the spin-on fuel filter every 10K for $20 and that's it.

and also...it's law now that anyplace that changes oil, has to accept your waste oil...take your pick of 100 places right in your town.

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BN,
Just do the K&N FIPK kit, not ram air.

Go for the Diablo Predator. It is a reprogrammer, not a chip. However, you return the stock program to the truck when you take it in for service. I have had both and prefer the Predator. GM has never said anything to me about the programming.
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Wannabe,

Please elaborate on the math. I cannot make it work.
At 12,000 miles per year MPG diesel 17, gas 12 ;
gas costs .20 LESS than diesel per gallon

Savings in fuel costs is $ 620 per 12,000 miles less $ 80 increased oil change costs per 12,000 miles= $ 540 savings per 12,000 miles, add financiing costs ( 5%) or $ 513. Say $ 5500 for diesel package = 128,655 miles.

So shoot me, off by 21,345 miles.

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At 12,000 miles per year MPG diesel 17, gas 12 ;
gas costs .20 LESS than diesel per gallon

Savings in fuel costs is $ 620 per 12,000 miles less $ 80 increased oil change costs per 12,000 miles= $ 540 savings per 12,000 miles, add financiing costs ( 5%) or $ 513. Say $ 5500 for diesel package = 128,655 miles.

So shoot me, off by 21,345 miles.

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Are you claiming that a duramax sells used for the same as an 8.1 so in effect you lose the $5500 additional you paid up front? You don't have to be a wise azz, I'm simply asking a question.
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