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masher44 04-16-2006 08:24 PM

2007 Denali XL
 
Thoughts? Tired of my rattle trap Excursion... will this vehicle realistically tow a 32 Activator at about 7000Lbs loaded up?

Truck has 380 hp, 420trq and a 7900 capacity....



http://www.gmc.com/2007yukon/specsDi...vehicle=denali

masher44 04-16-2006 08:35 PM

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warlocking 04-16-2006 08:37 PM

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i just bought a 2007 tahoe,,,tows my 29 like it not back there.

Byrdman 04-16-2006 08:46 PM

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Please...do not get me started.....you already have the mercedes....so get a nice dually....that thing is a turd for towing...period...of course you can tow it...but your going to be hauling azz all over the place.....so when you get jammed up....hauling azz.....the answer is no.....even though it is light and a single....your going to be moving! ....lets wait for the peanut gallery for the rest of the report :eek:..

masher44 04-16-2006 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdman
Please...do not get me started.....you already have the mercedes....so get a nice dually....that thing is a turd for towing...period...of course you can tow it...but your going to be hauling azz all over the place.....so when you get jammed up....hauling azz.....the answer is no.....even though it is light and a single....your going to be moving! ....lets wait for the peanut gallery for the rest of the report :eek:..


I know my last Denali had a tough time with the 29 beak... My Ex rides like sh1t :mad: ... have to drive a GMC dually .... what about a 2500 single axle?

Byrdman 04-16-2006 09:07 PM

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garbage.....listen...like I say around here....dually over 30 feet....there are some really nice duallies on the market....why do you keep wanting single ....don't forget the wd hitch :D

stecz20 04-16-2006 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by masher44
I know my last Denali had a tough time with the 29 beak... My Ex rides like sh1t :mad: ... have to drive a GMC dually .... what about a 2500 single axle?


byrd is right.. at least get a 1 ton truck.. if you can get a dually do it, you will get a piece of mind....

Byrdman 04-16-2006 09:15 PM

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2500s are nothing more than a 3/4 ton turd for towing a landscape trailer :evilb:

berns29scarab 04-16-2006 09:31 PM

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1st of all the number designations (1500,2500,3500) are nothing except payload capacity. i used a tahoe to tow a 30 spectre about 60 miles and it was horrible. depending how far and how often you tow is important as well. i have a 30 outboard spectre and tow 2-3 times a week approx 5 miles round trip and have gotten lucky, have used tahoes, durango's etc...just purchased an F-250 xtra cab with a 7.3 and dont even know it bag there. just my .02. the denali will get the job done "BUT" its definately not the optimum vehicle

Sydwayz 04-16-2006 09:45 PM

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If you must have a GM SUV, get the 2500 Yukon XL or 2500 Suburban and ONLY get the 8.1L (if its still available). The 6.0L SUCKS ASS and as much gas as the 8.1L.

The 32 Activator is a single engine narrow beam boat, so its not like towing a 31 Sonic with twin big blocks. However, you can never have too much truck. I ran with an 'adequate' setup and legal setup for a couple years. (2500 Avalanche rated to tow 12K lbs. towing 12K lbs.) Now that I have a 1-ton dually, I would not tow with anything else.

Byrdman 04-16-2006 09:46 PM

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masher....you still got the lady friend.....of course you do....this explains everything now....took me awhile :rolleyes: ....you tell her I said that thing ain't good for nothing except a milf with 3 kids and groceries.

stecz20 04-16-2006 10:00 PM

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be a man and get a dually.. stop wasting my mother fing time punk... :evilb: :evilb:

masher44 04-16-2006 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdman
masher....you still got the lady friend.....of course you do....this explains everything now....took me awhile :rolleyes: ....you tell her I said that thing ain't good for nothing except a milf with 3 kids and groceries.


gotta keep the hotties happy :drink:

tomtbone1993 04-16-2006 10:11 PM

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i new you were stroking me on a rover............ :rolleyes: :drink:

VIPER7 04-16-2006 10:49 PM

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I think that the Denalli will be a little light in the power and the braking areas. I think a 2500 or 3500 with diesel and braking transmission would be a much better choice. I have been towing a 36' Sonic with twin 525's for about a year and a half with no problems. I pull it with a 2500 HD GMC 4 x 4 with a Duramax Diesel and an Allison 5 speed in tow mode. I also installed a 12,000 pound rated hitch on the truck as the factory OEM hitch was only rated 7,500 pounds while the truck is rated 12,000 pounds with a weight carrying hitch. I installed higher load rated larger width 17 x 285 tires with wheels that also had a higher load rating. The trailer also has stainless ventilated disc brakes with a surge unit that works properly. Stopping is normally the worst problem but with the use of the tow mode of the truck transmission with its engine braking and good disc brakes on the trailer the rig stops really well. Trailer sway has also not been a problem and I have pulled down interstates at 85 MPH. I like the 2500 because it is so much easier to manuver around town and other trips.

masher44 04-17-2006 01:57 AM

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OK... scrap the Denali.... Byrdman will dis-own me :drink:

offshoredrillin 04-17-2006 06:58 AM

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:rolleyes:

Wobble 04-18-2006 08:49 AM

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The Denali XL will tow 7k with ease, also the 6.2 2007 models will get way better mileage than the 8.1 motor due to the cylinder deactivation mode. That wont kick in when towing, however the rest of the time you will be getting better mileage than any of the diesels.

Also see post #3.

BLee 04-18-2006 09:17 AM

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If you don't get a dually get a 2500 HD D-Max. I know Byrd doesn't like that idea, but at least you can use the truck for something other than towing when you aren't boating. I pull the Gun with one and it's alot heavier than the Activator. Plenty of room for passengers, TV's and chit. :drink:

pullmytrigger 04-18-2006 09:46 AM

Re: 2007 Denali XL
 

Originally Posted by masher44
Thoughts? Tired of my rattle trap Excursion... will this vehicle realistically tow a 32 Activator at about 7000Lbs loaded up?

Truck has 380 hp, 420trq and a 7900 cap

Have you actually wieghed your rig at a scale????......The manuals for my boat says it wieghed 5500.....I figured the steel trailer would wiegh 1500......so I figured 7500 with gas.......wrong......wieghed it on a scale.....half tank of gas.....all our chit......ready to go......9500......29 Fever twin.......7000 sounds awfully light for a 32ft boat and a trailer.

Sydwayz 04-18-2006 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pullmytrigger
Have you actually wieghed your rig at a scale????......The manuals for my boat says it wieghed 5500.....I figured the steel trailer would wiegh 1500......so I figured 7500 with gas.......wrong......wieghed it on a scale.....half tank of gas.....all our chit......ready to go......9500......29 Fever twin.......7000 sounds awfully light for a 32ft boat and a trailer.

Zactly!!! My 26' Sonic weighed 7280 lbs on the trailer full of gear, tools, trailer, & crap, including a 3/4 full tank (about 75 gallons).
26' Sonic specs are 5050 lbs. dry. That's 2230 lbs. of additional weight.

Panther 04-18-2006 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinStepGun
If you don't get a dually get a 2500 HD D-Max. I know Byrd doesn't like that idea, but at least you can use the truck for something other than towing when you aren't boating. I pull the Gun with one and it's alot heavier than the Activator. Plenty of room for passengers, TV's and chit. :drink:

I need that! I would look to get rid of my Suburban and get something like that. The crew cab is nice and so is the short bed. :drink:

The Burban can pull my Apache but it's definetely not meant to do it! I would never think to take it on the Highway or over 65 mph. :eek:

Wobble 04-18-2006 10:59 AM

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2007 Suburban 2500 available with 9700 lbs towing capacity cant find the engine specs.

Sydwayz 04-18-2006 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Wobble
2007 Suburban 2500 available with 9700 lbs towing capacity cant find the engine specs.

2007 Suburban Specs
1/2 ton has the 5.3L
3/4 ton has the 6.0L ONLY (No 8.1L in 2007)

Vortec 5300 V8 (Automatic)
MODEL Max. Trailer Weight (lbs.)1 Required Axle Ratio
Suburban half-ton (2WD) 7,100 3.73
8,100 4.10
Suburban half-ton (4x4) 7,000 3.73
8,000 4.10


Vortec 6000 V8 (Automatic)
MODEL Max. Trailer Weight (lbs.)1 Required Axle Ratio
Suburban three-quarter-ton (2WD) 7,700 3.73
9,700 4.10
Suburban three-quarter-ton (4x4) 7,500 3.73
9,500 4.10

Maximum trailer weight ratings are calculated assuming a base vehicle, except for any option(s) necessary to achieve the rating, plus driver. The weight of other optional equipment, passengers and cargo will reduce the maximum trailer weight your vehicle can tow. See your Chevy dealer for additional details. NOTES: Trailer tongue weight should be 10 to 15 percent of total loaded trailer weight (up to 1,000 lbs.). Addition of trailer tongue weight cannot cause vehicle weights to exceed Rear Gross Axle Weight Rating (RGAWR) or Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR). These ratings can be found on the certification label located on the driver door or door frame. For recreational towing restrictions and availability, consult the Owner’s Manual.

Wobble 04-18-2006 11:45 AM

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So it's not going to be the 6.2 380HP motor available in the Denalli XL :(

Sydwayz 04-18-2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wobble
So it's not going to be the 6.2 380HP motor available in the Denalli XL :(

I would not want ANY of the SB based motors for towing over 5K lbs. (total, not just dry boat weight). They all have their power and torque peaks and bands at very high RPMs. This is NOT good for towing. Do you really want to pull your boat up the ramp at 3500-4000 RPM and be towing constantly at 3000 RPM (considering for a tow vehicle you are going to want a 4.10 rear anyhow, also raising your cruise RPM). Gas mileage is going to be in single digits no matter what. When you have the rotating assembly and transmission rotating that fast, that constantly, and working that hard, its going to be a ticking timebomb.

You need a BB (in case of GM) as a minimum to tow with reliability and longevity. Obviously, diesel is preferred, but you there is no way I would want one of these newer SBC motors for a HD tow vehicle.



All of these manufacturers have a delicate balance to maintain. They have to build their vehicles and spec them and rate them to capacities that will sell the vehicles off the showroom floor. They also only HAVE to last as long as the warranty. So, they have to build them as cheaply as possbile, just stong enough to get through the factory included warranty. After that, there is the grey area of extended warranty, which is 50% or more profit to the selling agent. Then, GM, Ford, Dodge, or whomever can start making more money off of (us) when we come looking to replace grenaded parts. Do you think the COB of Ford give a rats ass that I bought a 2000 F-350? Other than the fact that I sold a GM to buy it; nope. The manufacturer cash cow is making profit on new vehicles. Dealers profit most from used vehicles sales and service.

Panther 04-18-2006 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wobble
So it's not going to be the 6.2 380HP motor available in the Denalli XL :(

Maybe not but the 6.0L is easy to work. They make supercharger kits, cam kits, headers ect. for the 6.0L motor. The Cam is so easy to change because of the spring loaded lifters so you don't even need to remove the intake manifold. :evilb:

Wobble 04-18-2006 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by warbird
What kind of vehicle do you big boys recommend for getting my beverages, sunscreen and towels the 20 yards from the back of my pool lanai down to my boat lift where my Midnight awaits???? :D :D :D

Small block powered golf cart, there is one here on the river. Make sure you upgrade the brakes also.

Chris288 04-18-2006 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by warbird
What kind of vehicle do you big boys recommend for getting my beverages, sunscreen and towels the 20 yards from the back of my pool lanai down to my boat lift where my Midnight awaits???? :D :D :D

F-550 MINIMUM !! weight distribution hitch, air bags, 15 ply 35's, take it very slow, and since your not going very far you should be o.k. .... :D

However,, if your gonna do that trip often and plan to tow very far you most definitely need one of these..

Panther 04-18-2006 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by warbird
What kind of vehicle do you big boys recommend for getting my beverages, sunscreen and towels the 20 yards from the back of my pool lanai down to my boat lift where my Midnight awaits???? :D :D :D

Golf Cart! :D :drink:

pullmytrigger 04-18-2006 03:45 PM

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what tires does the Denali come with???.......probably some P metric passenger car tires that have soft sidewalls for a nice ride but flop all over the place when they get a load on them allowing the trailer to sway.......get rid of them and put some proper LT tires on if your going to tow........

Byrdman 04-18-2006 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinStepGun
If you don't get a dually get a 2500 HD D-Max. I know Byrd doesn't like that idea, but at least you can use the truck for something other than towing when you aren't boating. I pull the Gun with one and it's alot heavier than the Activator. Plenty of room for passengers, TV's and chit. :drink:

you can use duallies very easy.....man up punk :D

masher44 04-18-2006 11:15 PM

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OK... probably going to pimp out the Excursion and keep it.... 20 inch rims , new tires, bull guard....

need an SUV for work :rolleyes:

Byrdman 04-18-2006 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by masher44
OK... probably going to pimp out the Excursion and keep it.... 20 inch rims , new tires, bull guard....

need an SUV for work :rolleyes:

You are the dirt dealer.....or now that you have the new prim and proper hottie you forgot that..yup..typical reet dog snif and forgets everything.....look for a nice truck ....at least your not getting a denali...n.. :fish:

GLH 04-19-2006 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Byrdman
you can use duallies very easy.....man up punk :D

What the plumber said. :D

pullmytrigger 04-19-2006 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GLH
What the plumber said. :D

GL - how did your Excrsion work pulling the Cig.....thats a BIG boat........did you tow very far with it??

Panther 04-19-2006 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by masher44
OK... probably going to pimp out the Excursion and keep it.... 20 inch rims , new tires, bull guard....

need an SUV for work :rolleyes:

Is the EX a Diesel?

I got the Burban because of work too but in hindsight I wish I got a crew cab D-Max instead.

Wobble 04-19-2006 08:58 AM

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[QUOTE=Panther]Is the EX a Diesel?QUOTE]

My EX is a bi7ch, didn't know diesel was an option :D

stecz20 04-19-2006 09:10 AM

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yeah man up bit ch... first you quit smoking, now you want to pull your rig behind a rover, whats next.... i remember the days when you used to be a man, and wanted to be a man. now you are like the rest of the punks and swine on here... man the f up, you have the dough, but do you have the flow?????? :D :D :D

masher44 04-19-2006 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Panther
Is the EX a Diesel?

I got the Burban because of work too but in hindsight I wish I got a crew cab D-Max instead.

yes it is a diesel


Stecz, I still love you :rolleyes:


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