Tundra lovers: Dually diesel
 

Being shown at SEMA...

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http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/30/s...dually-diesel/


With a strong OEM presence at SEMA, automakers are forced to bring The Badass to the masses. Toyota has apparently been overrun with requests from customers for some form of diesel motivation in its Tundra pickup and the automaker has responded... sort of... with the Tundra Dually Diesel. Toyota utilized two Tundra CrewMax pickups that were joined at the hip to lengthen the frame and add an additional foot to the bed. Although the majority of the Tundra Dually Diesel is bespoke show material, the drivetrain has been pulled straight from a Hino medium duty truck, with the only exception being a custom split driveshaft.

The crown jewel of the Dually is a JO8E 8.0-liter inline six turbodiesel, making around 300 HP and 600 lb.-ft. of torque. Shoehorning that kind of mill into the tight confines of the Tundra proved to be a challenge. The body had to be lifted off the frame by three inches and after some hacking and chopping of the firewall, they were finally able to fit the 1,500 pound engine into the bay. Between fitting the oil burner into the snout and mating it to a five-speed Allison tranny, the interior accoutrements have suffered – the HVAC controls are nonfunctional and the massive stick is there to provide additional leverage when shifting gears.

Mike Levine has a great write up covering all the details of the Tundra Dually Diesel, which is worth a read. And even though this mutha' runs, don't expect a production version to make it to dealers any time soon.

We've added Toyota's press release after the jump.


Gallery: Toyota Tundra Diesel Dually Project Vehicle




PRESS RELEASE

Toyota Tundra Diesel Dually Project Truck
"Road Warrior" exterior combined with luxury Interior
10/30/2007

Making a bold and adventurous statement about the contrasts between rugged "Road Warrior" performance and opulent luxury, a Toyota Tundra CrewMax diesel dually project truck made its debut at the 2007 SEMA Show.

At its core, the Tundra light duty pickup's stock engine was replaced with a medium duty diesel powerplant plucked from a 35,000-pound commercial truck. The 8.0-liter inline six-cylinder high-torque engine, made by Toyota affiliate Hino, is mated with an Eaton five-speed manual transmission and a Hino back end. Toyota Motorsports Technical Group heavily modified the Tundra to accommodate the beefed-up driveline.

A host of custom exterior treatments point to the off-the-charts muscle under the hood. Prominent examples include forged aluminum alloy 22.5-inch wheels custom made by Alcoa, a diamond plate-lined bed, a charcoal gray metallic flat paint finish and a fifth-wheel hitch rated at 24,000 pounds.

The muscular theme on the outside shifts dramatically to that of luxury on the inside with hand-sewn ginger leather seats, suede pillars and headliner and dual rear captain's chairs with individual DVD entertainment systems.

PARTNERS:

Engineering by Motorsports Technical Group
Interior by Fast Ed's Interiors
Paint by Focus on Cars
Wheels by Alcoa
Power steps and fuel door by Amp Research
Sound system by Kenwood
Sound installation by Beach Auto Sound
Lighting by PIAA
Exhaust by Magnaflow
5th wheel hitch by Reese


TOYOTA TUNDRA DIESEL DUALLY PROJECT TRUCK SPECIFICATIONS

SEMA CONCEPTS
CAB TYPE CrewMax, 6'5" Bed on lengthened frame
ENGINE Hino JO8E-TB Medium Duty 6 cylinder Turbo Diesel (intended for 35K lb truck)
DRIVETRAIN Eaton 5 speed manual transmission (medium duty application)
Hino Medium Duty rear end with Meritor Axles
Alcoa 22.5X9 Dually rear wheels and Floatation wheel fronts

EXTERIOR (Focus on Cars, Toyota Motorsports Technical Group)
Color Matte Charcoal Metallic
Trim (Theme) Satin Brushed Nickel
Grille Surround Brushed Metal
Bed Raw diamond plate lined
Wheels 22.5" Alcoa 10 hand hole forged alloy wheels
Tires Michelin Energy 295/60/22.5
Suspension Custom dual front struts with Bilstein dampers, Deaver spring pack in rear
Fascia Restyled front bumper insert
Diamond Plate Rear Bumper
Lighting PIAA P4000 Quattro cab lights, LED clearance lights on side and rear

INTERIOR (Fast Ed's Interiors)
Color Ginger soft touch leather with french stitching and perforated inserts
Dash Brished satin aluminum dash panel
Shift Knob Ginger leather wrap
Steering Wheel Ginger leather wrap
Seats Rear bench seat converted to two power captain's chairs and console
Headliner Taupe ultrasuede
Knobs Satin Brushed Nickel HVAC knobs
Door panels Fully leather wrapped in Ginger with french stitching and perforated inserts
Door Handles Satin Brushed Nickel
Door Sills Satin Brushed Nickel
Sound System Kenwood touch panel with full Kenwood sound system
Features Navigation, dual rear seat entertainment

EXTRAS
Reese Signature Series 24K hitch
AMP Research electrically retractable step boards
AMP research billet fuel filler door
Magnaflow 4.5" Polished stainless steel exhaust

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Really nice looking. It's got quite a stance.

Tom

Interesting, and not bad for their first foray into the space.

I am sure it will generate a LOT of talk.

Personally, I like the width and aggressive appearance of the rear end; that's different than anything else out there. The whole thing appears a little rushed an unfinished though, as the paint appears to be two different colors, and the while I know the 'tuner' trend is unfinished wheel centers, and lugs, it looks too rugged for this concept.

There is a Hino dealer/service center down the street from our house, and they stay VERY busy. I had no idea they were an arm of Toyota.

I like the fact they are pushing the other makers' buttons. Strong and interesting competition builds better products for everyone; and weeds out the weak.

I'm sure it was a rush job for SEMA. Maybe later this year we'll see a finished product or a production model.

I'll never buy one myself, just though some of you guys might like to see it.

Hino builds a very reliable diesel engine. I like the look of the truck, and would consider it after a couple years of favorable service history.

The article mentions a "fifth wheel hitch" not a bumper pull hitch.

Thanks. I missed that.

My American Flag is flown EVERYDAY is yours, well yes, in the fact that I alway's drive AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!! My truck was built by American crackheads and I'm damn proud!!!!!!!

Oh boy. Here we go again.

Just what are you trying to say?

When Hell freezes over.

Buy American. F- the Japanese auto industry.

I'd suggest you worry more about NOT buying stuff Made In China than a Japanese truck designed and built by Americans.

Bet you can't go for a single day not buying something at least partly made in China. Try it, I did. Pisses me off way worse than a Japanese built in America truck employing Americans.

Stop shopping at Walmart for a start!

I'm Mr. Buy American. It's tough if not impossible- and sometimes very expensive.

I don't shop at WalMart.

As far as jap cars go- it's not tough to find U.S. made substitutes there. As far as built by Americans, the profit still goes to Japan.

Actually, the profits go to the shareholders - and a lot of Americans own Toyota stock.

I knew Chris couldn't resist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets face it, when GM or Ford build a car as dependable as a Toyota Americans will buy it. Americans for the most part are not stupid, they won't buy a lesser quality product just because it has an American nametag, which doesn't even mean it's made here.

I own a Ford and a Toyota. I drive a F350 and the wife drives a FJ Cruiser, my father in law also owes a used car lot. I think the main thing that is killing the american auto industry is the unions. Vehicals, trucks espeically have gotten rediculously expensive. When you buy new you lose your ass period as soon as you drive off the lot, no matter foreign or domestic. Which leaves must people upside down unless you put a significant amount down, I could talk for days about this one. The bottom line is the auto manufactures are pricing themselves out of the reach for the common man. I mean common on, who wants to chunk down 900 a month for 5 years on a brand new diesel heavy heavy duty pickup.

America does build a dependable car. Americans are just blinded, and look the other way, often times overlooking faults with the Japanese cars just because they think they are still far superior.

Here is an article on toyota recalls.

Obviously I'm not saying ford/dodge/Chevy are perfect, but I wouldn't put Toyota in a different class.

Now, here is where I get upset. Their marketing campaign is a lot of lies. Sure, they do have a model that tows 10k lbs. But, it is 44k!!! For a 1/2 ton pickup! My friend bought his 06 Chevy diesel 3/4 ton for less than that. Plus, if you start to do math, that tow rating is at the pretty optimal side of the numbers. All of the other toyota's capacities were in the 7500 lb range. (I was at a show, with the one toyota hauling a skid steer, with window stickers and weight ratings in all of them.) BTW, the one hauling the skid steer had a 14k lb rated trailer.. thought that was illegal, given the 10k rating, no matter how little is loaded on the trailer.

So, given the price point of these trucks, their towing/cargo capacities, and lack of a diesel I just don't understand how they sell so much.

The Chevy silverado 1500 was reviewed as a better all around truck than the f-150 and tundra by a few different magazines, not that it means a lot.

It is definatley a good looking vehicle..

Do American consumers owe the American auto industry a purchase?

or does the American auto industry owe American consumers a product they want to buy?

Didn't the American Demming go to the American auto industry first, where he was unwelcomed? But he was welcomed by certain Japanese auto manufactuers. And they now call it the Toyota System.

Personally, it ticks me off to buy from people who feel "intitled" to my money, no matter if they are foreign or domestic. And it amazes me this concept of "patriotic loyalty" to 3 American HQed companies who themselves don't appear to be loyal to American consumers nor American suppliers.

FWIW: The vehicles currently in my driveway happen to American-assembled, by American HQed companies, with God only knows what percentage of American-made parts. But not because I "owed" the Big 3 something, but because they were the best fit for our needs and wants when we bought them. And that's the way it should be.

Well, it seems that their concept truck should at least "work" I did less hacking building a V-8 Vega in high school. Yes it was American junk but would run 9.90 and street legal. It's all good as workers in Mylasia, China, India want to live better the workers will revolt as they are in India now, as companys exploit them they will get tired of it just like the industrial revolution was here, with child labor etc. You as Americans want your enviorment clean and pure for your children and familys, but you will support countries that poison their workers, the enviroment. a world market has your kids licking lead paint off of their toys!!!!!!!!!! So if your boss come in to your office in 10 mins and say's hay the country dictates that we lower their bill and he replaces you with a company out of China that would be OK right, bull and you know it. Go ahead Maryland Mark!!!!!!!!!!!! your turn!!!!!!!

I'm glad you brought up the concept of lower cost areas of our own country.

Re: Steel and heavy items: For the most part, container ships don't charge by weight, but by volume. Shipping bulky items tends to be more expensive than heavy items. My firm had domestic clients who made bricks and steel plates that were affected by low-cost imports of the same items, where as the clients who made golf bags and kitchen cabinets were not. At least until the foreign manufacturers started shipping them in "on the flat" aka dis-assembled, and finished assembled them here in the United States.

It is a good looking truck. They've come a long way. But, if i were in the market, I would still probably run with a big Ford.

I have to say, the "Japs" comments seem pointless.
WWII has been over for 62 years.
And we kicked the shhit out of them. Get over it.

They learned from us, just overwhelm the other guy(IE dump your product) on them cheaper until the other guy goes out of business! Yes, we won that war but they have been beating us ever since. I can't wait till they start importing offshore boats, guess from your recommendations I'll be first in line. Oh and Mark I have had Verizon actually started with Richmond cellular back in 1983 still have the origional number, keep up the good work! Can you hear me now?

I bought a Lexus several years ago which was the only foreign car I have owned. I bought it primarily because I met the owner of a large Lexus dealership and he kept dropping off brochures at my office over several months and finally convinced me to buy one. Overall it was a very good vehicle with essentially no repairs or other issues; however, I happened to own it during the September 11 crisis and aftermath. The statements I received from Toyota and Lexus descibing their "commitment" to the US were so weak and pathetic that I was embarrassed to be driving it. I have subsequently owned only US vehicles and have enjoyed similar quality.

Chris

Just for the record, if I still worked for a domestic car dealership, I would not enjoy my current lifestyle. Also go visit some of the "import" car factories here in the United States that employ thousands of Americans, and they will all tell you that they are happier and have better benefits packages than any union job could ever hope to offer them. This is a global world we live in today and thats why the domestics are dying. They have just stood by and let it happen.

Cute truck.


P.S.
Are there any truck manufacturer's left that haven't copied Ford's double-post, dual-mirror design?

Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner !! I've stated this here for the past many years. Keep going on strike for more pay and job security so you can be a dog phuck at work and not get fired. Drive the price of the north american made vehicles to the point where there is little profit to pet back into the product. not rocket science.


I hate unions, no use for them in this day and age. reword the hard worker, fire the dog phucker, and see what happens to the rest......

Good point about Deming. If the american auto makers would have not been so pompass than we could have better manufactering techniques and practices, but the quesion for the ages is would the American Auto Union allow said auto makers to develop these "lean" manufacturing proceeses. My guess is no, not only could we have cut cost, improved quality, we probably would have generated more jobs because our auto sales would not be taken or absorbed by foreign auto manufacters. I remember reading a quote fomr a ignorant ceo of gm, it went something like this "what is good enough for gm is good enough for the world." I bet that schmuck is having fun eating crow today!

As soon as I start getting orders from Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese and Chinese companies, I'll start buying their products. One of my customers is a soft drink company. You won't catch me with a competitor's product in my hand. Another is a cell phone company. One is a grocery co. Two are American auto manufacturers. The list goes on. That's who I buy from. Think about who your customers are (or your employer's). If they go away, where will you be?

People who buy Japanese cars are kidding themselves. Lexus is a prime example. They teach the Lexus marketing model in many B-schools. They created a mystique and then sold the converts fancy Toyotas. Incredibly profitable business segment. My neighbor owned a Honda dealership. Made a fortune out of the service department. The Honda converts believe in their dealer maintenance schedule like it's the tablets of the ten commandments. He told me of the droves that his service department sold new cars to. The customer would come in for their 60K service and when seeing the cost, got spun to the sales department.

Nissan isn't a union company but by God every time the UAW gives something back Nissan takes it away from us. I've been here 25 years and the union couldn't get in because it didn't have anything to offer. Now all auto co. are competing globally and were are expected to build as cheap as Mexico and other third world co. There is no such thing as company loyalty to workers anymore. Even in Japan the retired people are getting booted off the company tit.

By the way, only about 20% if that much is imported from other countries. Nissan has stock so anyone can own and profit from them.

Oh, I also have 3 Fords a GMC and a boat, No Nissans because I can't afford one!

The amercan auto markers do the same thing. EG: Caddy Esclade essentially a chevy tahoe and the list goes on. BTW, I am in no defending the foreign auto makers just making a point.

Yep, that's right... all of them do it.

Escalade = Upscale Tahoe/Burban
Lincoln Aviator = Upscale Explorer
Lincoln Navigator = Upscale Expedition
Infinity = Upscale Nissan
Lexus = Upscale Toyota
yada yada

Marketing is marketing. There all brands that people associate with and buy because it fits, feels right, or whatever.

Acura-honda!
Does that toyota truck have a 3' bed?
Out of all the dealerships we have,2 chevy,2 hummer,1 honda auto and 1 honda-suzuki motorcycle,
only the honda auto is making money right now! :hitfan:

Yeah, Brunswick dresses up a Baja, and calls it a Fountain.








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(TOTALLY KIDDING)

id be interested in reading what byrd has to type he does a lot of research on big trucks....thoughts?

Well. for what it's worth, I live just outside Windsor Ont Canada, For you geographically challenged, that's just across the creek from Detroit Mich.
Our town USED to have 6 Chrysler plants, 2 GM plants, and 4 Ford plants. We now have 1 Chrysler plant, 1 GM plant, 2 Ford plants,soon to be 1.
But just because the vehicle has a one of the big three name plates on it does not mean it was built in North America. The Pontiac Vibe for instance, is wholly engineered, stamped and assembled in Korea, but it has a big three name plate on it, so does that make it OK to buy it, guilt free, it say's Pontiac on it? The Chrysler Crossfire, same thing but from Germany, not one American, or in my instance, Canadian had any input into building either one.
None of the "Big 3" have built a new plant in North America in about 25yrs. Huyndia just spent 50 million on an engineering facility in Mich, and 1 billion on an assembly plant in Alabama, is it wrong to by a Huyndia?
Don't tell me about the profit's staying in North America, that is misinformation, the profits go to the shareholders, wich are world wide. And just because the there may be some profit at the big three, that does not mean any new investment from them.
Some Huyndia's, BMW's, Toyota's, Honda's, and other "foreign" cars are built in Canada and the US, dose that make it wrong to by what your neighbor build's, I don't think so!
Please don't think that I am some bleeding heart goof ball, I am a small business owner, that drives a GMC diesel dually, an S 10 4x4, and my wife drives a Jeep Liberty, ALL MADE IN NORTH AMERICA!!
I am in boat repair, and the first thing to go, or not be fixed are peoples toy's. If my neighbors build a Toyota, and are spending their pay check in my shop then I would support them to.
Unfortunately there are no foreigen assembly plants in our town, come to think of it there are getting to be fewer and fewer plants in our town, and Chrysler just announced in our paper today, that the cuts they just announced will cost us about another 1000 jobs.
So before you ranting about BUY AMERICAN or in my case CANADIAN, make sure you actually know where that vehicle was built. Your neighbor may have built that Toyota diesel. And that DODGE 1500, good chance it was built in Mexico, and there's lots of those running around with flags waving off them?

I'm sure to have pissed more than a few off, can't help it if I actually have a stake in the auto industry.

Feel free to send your hate mail directly to me, www.offshoregroup.net or [email protected]

Thanks, and buy what's built here, not just a name tag

More pics of the truck
http://www.truckblog.com/story-1473-...dually_crewmax

The quality issues challenging Toyota are not new news. The quality of american build has dramatically increased and that is supported by JD Powers. What bothers me is the cost advantage the imports enjoy. Their advantage in vehicle development because they are kings when it comes to copying the engineering design efforts of the domestics. From a drive train, specifically GM. From a labor standpoint, they have no legacy costs and their labor $ per vehicle I would believe has to be substantially lower. The legacy costs the domestics pay definetly find their way into our economy and support many of our industries, indiectly helping all of us. From a parts standpoint, last I saw Ford and GM were at 70% domestic content, Diamler slightly less, Toyota in the high 40's, Nissan in the 20's and Honda in the teens. These parts dollars also help all of us. At least if the company is dometic they pay property, income and employment taxes. Now, the import companies with operations here send their dollars back to their homeland where they pay their taxes. They pay little if any property taxes, but they do pay employment taxes. What a deal:violent-smiley-045:

At the end of the day, if a person chooses to purchase an import vehicle...so be it. But the rational to support that decision is slowly evaporating. Don't forget, back in the 70's the imports produced garbage. Their quality didn't improve until they bagan knocking off our engineering and designs.