6.4 Liter Ford.
 

It's time to buy a new truck. I have the 03 Centenial addition crewcab 6.0L now. I am looking at the new diesel and was wandering how it has been lately. I'm not interested in what you have heard, I want to here from the guy's that have them. I don't want to here from you rocks either. I put on a lot of miles towing and I have had every brand and the Ford has by far been the best for me. When I bought the 6.0 liter I heard from everyone how bad it was going to be. I have 200,000 miles and the only thing I have done is an EGR valve and the dealer flashed the comp. a couple times. Fuel mileage is a big issue (obviosly at $3.65 a gallon) so I would like to here about that too. I am looking at 3.73 with alot of highway use at around 72-74mph empty and around 12,000lbs. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I have searched this subject and have not found that much. Thanks, Jeremy.

I'm not going to comment on the new Ford but will make make a comment about the fords in general. I had the exact truck you have...03' Centennial. After an oil leak that could never be found and an innability to start when the temperature dipped below 35F (seriously...not plugged in it was physically incapable of starting if it was even 30 degrees overnight) I went and traded on a new Dodge. I talk to people like you that have had no issues. I wander if my Ford service was lacking (they could never fix my issues) or if some of us just had lemons. I looked at the new F450 but couldn't bring myself to buy another Navistar powered vehicle. I hope you have good luck if you purchase. The new truck drives awesome and turns like a Miata.

I bought a new f450 at the end of the season after considering many options (Heavy duty commited tow vehicle, Medium duty conversion, etc.) and test towing with a Pete 379, a FL Sportchassis, and the Ford. I drove an excursion diesel as my daily driver and towed with an International (Heavy) with a c12 previously. I bought the f450 with 4.88 rear for legal towing and traded in the excursion with the idea that if I didn't tow with it, I'd just use it as a daily driver. I have towed with it only four times but it has been great. As a daily driver, it has been great. It is much quieter, smoother, and more maneuverable than the excursion. I get around 12 mpg mixed driving (mostly below 70 hwy and in town). It is governed at 82. Towing I got 6-8 mpg (but the boat on the trailer weighs just below 21K). Overall I have been very happy.

I have a F350 Crew Cab 6.4 3.73gears loaded.
Sold my 05 6.0.
This new truck is SO much better than the old. Only gripe: Due to EPA crap, It does not get as good fuel economy. I am seeing 14 mpg w/ a mix of city / hwy driving. Old 6.0 would get 16 mpg.
But the new truck tows SO much better!!
Plus there are no problem w/ 6.4 either. Buy one - you'll like it.

Bill, that's good to know. I have had 6 - 6.0 with out problems, some with over 125k. My 07 dually that Im trading in/or selling out right is getting around 14-15.2 but that's with 4.10 gears. I just ordered a 08 dually with 3.73, so it sounds like my milaege will be about the same. Thats good to hear. jeff

My 05 f350 6.0 just had a $3k engine problem; cracked timing chain case-rare, fixed under warranty. That truck has 83k miles and I don't drive it. My 08' 6.4 F350srw 4x4 has 20k miles and is awesome, no trouble. Quiet, powerful and so smooth; only complaint-mileage...16.5 hw, 14 around town, 11 towing 10k. Hope this helps.....& the factory gps/touchscreen media is sweet!

I have a white over tan dually and a solid black in stock right now. I also have a black and white F450 due here anyday. Please call for price.
Mat
910-787-4101
www.sandersford.com

Thanks guy's. I think I will order one next week. Before they went to ultra low sulfer I was getting 18-19mpg empty. With the new fuel and mixed with K1 I've only been getting 15-16 so the mileage sounds pretty close. Anyone know a dealer who wants to sell. The ones around here are thinking it's 3 years ao and want sticker minus factory incentives. It's not going to happen. I'm in Maine but I'd travel about anywhere if the price was right.

I've never been accused of being the sharpest tool in the drawer, but I'd say someone has been driving it. 2 years old and 83k miles? :eek:

Buck

Give Matt a call, the guy above your last post.

I just ordered a 08 F350 dually (my personal truck) from my close friend who owns the dealership. My other buddy sales manager at the GMC dealership gave me his dually to drive home yesterday and let me hook it up to the boat. (I buy 2-3 trucks a year). I liked the power of the Duramax, slightly more than the F350, trannies about the same, other than I liked the 6-speed auto on the GM...BUT the suspension like Ive said previously is no match (not even close) for what I tow. Even driving around not pulling, Ford has really improved, about 5-10% off as comfortable as the GM. Interior Ive always given the nod to the GM, not this year. They are all good trucks, +/- on them all. Ive just not had enough experience on the Dodges other than 2, and they were 99, and 01 models. They look like they have come along way, motor has always been their strong point. Im going to check them out next week.

Now to launch the boat, and put in the boat houseD

2008 Super Duty
 

I have a F350 Crew Cab 6.4 3.73 gears and love it. Ford did a great job on it, but the mileage is worse (12 MPG around town) than my last 6.0.

It could of been who was working on it that made your service lacking. I had issues that the dealer I bought mine from that tried numerous times to fix and could not for what ever reason? I took it to another dealer I was told had good diesel mechanic, issues were fixed the first time in, and no problems since... I am convinced there is a difference in diesel techs when it comes to working on the 6.0...

I bought a loaded '07 F350 for the team earlier this year as soon as the 6.4L was available and it's been great. Have 23K trouble free miles on it. Would buy another one if we had the need for it.

I have an 07/08 F-350 & just ordered an 08 F-450. I think the 6.4 is alot better but I had 04 & 05 6.0 & had no trouble & went to a v-10 in 06 & didn't like it at all.

Well I hate to say this since everyone else seems so happy, but I don't like my 08 F-450. I traded my 06 F-350 because it left me stranded twice on the road while towing. The 08 has already left me stranded once while towing. That was for a split radiator, and although there hasn't been a second time yet, it did spend 10 days in the shop for exhaust issues. The side of my new truck (white) was black!!! I haven't really driven it much since they repaired it to see if they really corrected the problem. The fuel mileage is terrible, 11 on the highway unloaded at low 70's, and 7.5 pulling the boat at about 70. Good luck. I think I'm going to trade it on a new GMC or Dodge if the loss isn't too much to stomach.

I agree, the fuel milage is not as good as previously, but I think you will see that across the board with the new emissions restrictions and ultra low sulfur diesel.

Chuck, what you have is purpose built truck. The F450 comes with 4.88 gears, very few have the 4.30's. That is the culprit on the mileage. Also the 450 is heavier due to larger suspension, brakes and what ever else on there to make it what it is. I have 2 friends that did the same thing, went out and bought 450's, one traded on F350, with 4.10 gears and he is very happy with the mileage and the other traded on a 3500 GMC with 3.73 gears who is happy with the mileage but not the truck, due to many issues. BUT he is a Ford guy, and just is really a complainer. The 08 250/350's come with 3.73 to 4.10's on the avarage, with a 3.55 gear out about now. Some info on this www.dieselstop.com Check it out, dont know how it would effect towing, some possible disadvantages.

I have 1 07 Chevy and 1 07 Ford, both good trucks, + and - on both. Drive them all and see if you can tow with them, that is where you will see the difference. If the F450's would come with 4.10 gears or 3.90's I would consider getting one, cause the one I drove for 2 days was nice, but mileage was not so nice. My 07 F350 pulls the Nortech fine, just ordered again one of each for the 08 model year. Good Luck Jeff

I have had my 08 450 4 a few months now & it has over 13k miles, no probs & I Love this thing! 1st p/u & diesel I have ever had!!!!:D

I just traded my 07 6.0L for the 08 6.4L and I am very pleased. The new truck tows very well and is much quieter than the last model. I am seeing about 13.5mpg with a small lift and 35"s.

The truck does tow well and is quieter, and does turn better. The mileage sucks but really isn't my big problem with the truck. Getting stranded is what bothers me with relatively new equipment.

I don't blame you. I would see if Ford will work with you because of that. Maybe they would be willing to extend your warranty for free to keep you as a customer, especially since you purchase their high end trucks. This may work for both of you. I would ask for a full extended service warranty for no charge. It would be a good investment for them to keep you as a customer. This should also include free towing if it should ever happen again.

Has anyone used a chip yet on the 6.4's? Do they even have a chip out yet? I have been looking at a 350 dually and I know the chip in our 7.3 helped the milage and was just wondering.

YES www.innovativediesel.com ask for Eric or Ted. As their tunes throughout the year get tweaked they will email to you at nc. I have used them on all my 6.0, and 2 have over 125k.

http://forums.thedieselstop.com/foru...24#Post1435524 Jeff

i have a 08 350 dually . loaded with nav..black with gray int..will let go at a great deal.. call for info 813-417-6424..4x4

Just listed 2008 F-450 on OSO classifieds-

Finally bought my new truck. Mat and Sanders Ford were great. 08 FX4 they are even installing the moonroof there. Now I have to fly down and pick it up. I'll put some pics in when I get it home. Probably wil not use it until summer. I'm not going to plow with this truck so I'll finish my contracts with my 03. Anyone looking for an 03 6.0L diesel. Crew Cab Centenial Edition. Lariat, Moonroof 2 tone leather 9' fisher mm. 200,000 miles. Exc. condition

:eek: Wow!

Whatever you guys do don't buy the '03 6.0 Ford. It's the worst year for the truck. They are junk! :)

I would say the mileage on your truck will shut the naysayers up huh? ;)

Buck

we still have in service an 04 F350 dually with 152-153k on it. Been an excellent truck. they all start as my personal truck then either one of the employees/friends buys them or gets traded in. The 07 Duramax as of last week is in service now, and my 07 F350 dually is possibly next, or one of the OSO'rs that called wants it before it gets traded by Jan 07, my 08 will be here, doing paperwork Monday for this years write off.

I actually will hate to see it go. It has been the best vehicle I've ever had. I usually trade at 100K or a little over, but it's been so good I decided to keep running it. I hope the new one is as good.

I knew you had good luck with them Jass. Just like Screamin', my '03 has been the best truck I've ever owned. First Ford too I might add.

But, I don't want to jump off of anyone's bandwagon and go against the grain or anything. Whatever you guys do, don't buy one!!!! :hitfan:

Buck