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satisfied1 03-31-2008 09:50 PM

Trucker Strike tonight !!
 
Just be careful on way in to work tomorrow watch over head bridges and stuff like that. I am shut down due to the cost of fuel, food,ect. There is no reason for the cost of 4 buck a gallon fuel.

Just be careful

Jeff and Jessica

stecz20 03-31-2008 09:52 PM

good im glad you guys are going on strike.... i dont know what its gonna do, but good for you guys... i cant imagine being back in the garbage bus with fuel as high as it is.... f em....

bgchuby01 03-31-2008 09:53 PM

what states will this be in?

satisfied1 03-31-2008 09:54 PM

Nation wide

satisfied1 03-31-2008 09:56 PM

http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tru...-strike-forum/

here is a few links

stecz20 03-31-2008 09:57 PM

local 813 nyc teamsters here... garbage union....

never strick without your starbucks.....:p

i had my boys hit the lines when the doorman went walking... that was back in 99, or 00... it was a few days off, and we were just backing them up... good times, good times....

satisfied1 03-31-2008 10:00 PM

Something has to change or at least help

marineclean 03-31-2008 10:04 PM

http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tru...-truckers.html

Here's the poll. Thumbs UP for standing up!

stecz20 03-31-2008 10:04 PM

the biggest problme is you have too many non american truckrs that wont strike.. the strike i the 70s shut down the country.. again, not sure if a strike will help but at least you have spoken you mind...

Roger 1 03-31-2008 10:28 PM

You have my support. The Duramax will remain parked for the duration of the strike.

Tom A. 03-31-2008 10:38 PM

I support the truckers but unfortunately, because I am in heavy highway construction and move my own material and equipment, I can't park my trucks because I would only be hurting myself.
These fuel prices are ridiculous and something needs to be done.
:mad:

stecz20 03-31-2008 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by Tom A. (Post 2508029)
I support the truckers but unfortunately, because I am in heavy highway construction and move my own material and equipment, I can't park my trucks because I would only be hurting myself.
These fuel prices are ridiculous and something needs to be done.
:mad:

puzzy.....:evilb::evilb:

fountain4play 03-31-2008 10:40 PM

I agree the cost of fuel is outrageous right now...good luck...

on second thought could it wait till my drives get delivered tomorrow by Yellow...they've been back and forth across the country for a month now...

Tom A. 03-31-2008 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by stecz20 (Post 2508031)
puzzy.....:evilb::evilb:

:Whatever:
Let's see here, I am going to park my trucks, pay my drivers to do nothing all day, not move any materials or equipment, and stick it to myself by putting me a day behind.....doesn't really prove anything to anyone other than I can skrew myself!

Actually now that I think about it that sounds like a typical NYC Teamster garbage hauler!:party-smiley-004:

Michael1 04-01-2008 12:51 AM

I don't get this strike. Diesel fuel is high, because (1) crude oil is high due to demand increasing in emerging countries with huge populations such as China and India, and (2) the demand for diesel in Asia and Europe is rising due to the shift to diesel cars in those countries. I don't see that a strike could change either one of these scenarios.

The goods have to be moved, so just like it has over the last 10 years of increasing fuel prices, freight transportation prices will be raised.

Michael

cig1988 04-01-2008 02:24 AM


Originally Posted by stecz20 (Post 2507994)
the biggest problme is you have too many non american truckrs that wont strike.. the strike i the 70s shut down the country.. again, not sure if a strike will help but at least you have spoken you mind...

There ya go showing your age again

sommerfliesby 04-01-2008 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by Michael1 (Post 2508108)
I don't get this strike. Diesel fuel is high, because (1) crude oil is high due to demand increasing in emerging countries with huge populations such as China and India, and (2) the demand for diesel in Asia and Europe is rising due to the shift to diesel cars in those countries. I don't see that a strike could change either one of these scenarios.

The goods have to be moved, so just like it has over the last 10 years of increasing fuel prices, freight transportation prices will be raised.

Michael

True enough...however...our state and federal governments stand to make quite a pretty penny through taxation...the taxes being based on a percentage of the fuel cost. Sure the cost of crude is up...so let's ease the burden on the economy by cutting back on these exorbitant levees. Back in '99 or so gas prices jumped, and the IL govt fell all over itself to suspend the gas tax...we've heard nothing but the whistle of the wind lately...WHY?

And also...can somebody tell me why diesel is SOOOO much more ($4.29 by me) when it requires LESS refining??? Its gonna cost me $400 just to TOW my boat to LOTO this summer...not to mention USE it on the lake!

I support you 100% Jeff...hopefully you guys can make enough noise to cause the pols to get off their lazy, complascent, overpaid azzes.

prosno 04-01-2008 05:59 AM

If we as a nation stood together we could get so much more done, I salute the truckers! Phuck them towel heads, my stuff is parked.

Chris Sunkin 04-01-2008 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 2508157)
True enough...however...our state and federal governments stand to make quite a pretty penny through taxation...the taxes being based on a percentage of the fuel cost. .

Price a bridge or a mile of highway. There's a shortfall between the amount of revenue collected to maintain our infrastructure and what it really costs. That's why bridges are collapsing.



Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 2508157)
And also...can somebody tell me why diesel is SOOOO much more ($4.29 by me) when it requires LESS refining??? .

Easy one- demand.

If you had a product that people wanted, would you price it as a function of cost or would you charge what people are willing to pay. You'd be foolish to do the former. On diesel, here's the best example. On the interstate, it's $3.89, by my home it's $4.19. I can drive a half-hour and save 30 cents if I want. I don't.

Obviously demand is a simple answer to a complex issue. Demand is a catch-all for things like pipeline outages, shortfalls in refining capacity and many other pressures.

By the way, would you rather have $4 diesel or NO diesel? Global demand is rising to where supply capacity is becoming constricted. At some point, expect to see shortages, regardless of price.

People are calling for government intervention- that's a double-edged sword. When oil tanks, are we going to backstop the oil industry's billions of losses? If so, where do we stop? Do we bail out the automakers right now? The mortgage industry is getting bailed out right now and their penalty is going to be massive bureaucratic government regulation of the industry. Is that what we really want?

I would like to see some inquiry into oil futures trading though- but not but Congress. They should stick to steroids and impeachment rants.

DollaBill 04-01-2008 06:27 AM

First, what do you mean "be careful of overhead bridges" etc??? I would really like clarification of that. Maybe I'm way off, but it sounds threatening.

Second, you have the right to do what you want, but unions killed this country, along with strikes. Nothing personal, but just get out of the biz if it doesn't work. Business isn't supposed to be fair. That's why it's business.

If bread goes to 30.00 a loaf becuase of freight costs it is my CHOICE to buy bread.

SpeedGirl 04-01-2008 06:35 AM

What time is this starting?

My husband is hauling a boat today and I want him to be home and have the truck parked before this starts..... We Support!

Chris Sunkin 04-01-2008 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 2508173)
First, what do you mean "be careful of overhead bridges" etc??? I would really like clarification of that. Maybe I'm way off, but it sounds threatening.

.

Historically, striking truckers have been fond of waiting on bridges and dropping objects onto still-operating "scab" truckers. Mostly a Teamster thing.

The trucking industry probably doesn't need too many more lost work days. There are more than a few rigs parked right now due to lack of loads. If you're an employee, you'll probably be driving. If you're my employee, you're driving or it's your last day. If you're a union employee, the only people that can call a strike is the union. If you're an independent, you probably need the $$- you'll be driving.

This noble endeavor might have more effect if it the goal was more clearly defined. Just like the "gas purchase" strikes, everyone will fill up the next day anyway.

offshoredrillin 04-01-2008 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin (Post 2508184)
Historically, striking truckers have been fond of waiting on bridges and dropping objects onto still-operating "scab" truckers. Mostly a Teamster thing.

The trucking industry probably doesn't need too many more lost work days. There are more than a few rigs parked right now due to lack of loads. If you're an employee, you'll probably be driving. If you're my employee, you're driving or it's your last day. If you're a union employee, the only people that can call a strike is the union. If you're an independent, you probably need the $$- you'll be driving.

This noble endeavor might have more effect if it the goal was more clearly defined. Just like the "gas purchase" strikes, everyone will fill up the next day anyway.

correct, while at UPS and we were on strike, it was about a contract, unfortunately this is only a solidarity protest and will most likely have some blow hard in Washington try to pipe up and win some support for himself...As someone said in an earlier post, they should look into the futures traders.

DollaBill 04-01-2008 07:01 AM

If I saw someone drop something from a bridge it would be the last thing they ever held in their hands.

C_Spray 04-01-2008 07:09 AM

Some great responses and information in this thread. Things are rarely as simple and people would like you to think. The future-trading issue is potentially a big one. That "industry" doesn't seem to be much more than a hostile parasite on the oil market, but maybe I'm missing something. After all - they started and energy-futures market to stabilize that industry after the Enron debacle.

I just wish someone made 600 hp solar engines for boats.....:(

bojoe2 04-01-2008 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by stecz20 (Post 2508031)
puzzy.....:evilb::evilb:

Dave im leaving my 350 diesel home how about you :D i havent driven it in 2 months

JPD Motorsports 04-01-2008 07:19 AM

more than just the fuel price the independents are striking for. Cost of fuel low fuel sercharges to cover the cast and the same mile freight from 5 yrs ago still being paid. My brother is an indi and parked his rig for the fuel surcharge was .40 thru his company that was few weeks ago and low freight pay, and he hauls all medical goods and tech machines for hospitals.

Chris Sunkin 04-01-2008 07:29 AM

That's purely a supply and demand issue. As things slow, truck availability rises. That means prices fall. As guys quit the business, availability will tighten and rates will rise.

satisfied1 04-01-2008 07:31 AM

[QUOTE=Chris Sunkin;2508165]Price a bridge or a mile of highway. There's a shortfall between the amount of revenue collected to maintain our infrastructure and what it really costs. That's why bridges are collapsing.

No, spending on every thing else but bridges and roads. That is why, every bit of tax goes into general fund and mind you, we spend a bunch of money on tax for the roads.

Chris Sunkin 04-01-2008 07:57 AM

You have a point there- many states are pilfering from infrastructure just to prop their house of cards up. Ohio is basically a shell. Business is leaving at a steady stream and new companies aren't looking here. Our state government keeps looking for ways to nickle and dime us to death with fees for everything. Not only is the state doing this, so are the cities. On top of that, they're looking to cash out of the revenue-deriving pieces of the infrastructure. The want to sell toll roads, water/sewer, etc. They claim they want to reinvest in the state- you know they'll piss it away keeping themselves in office and the average guy will pay the freight in the form of increased costs for services.

88Fount33 04-01-2008 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Roger 1 (Post 2508023)
You have my support. The Duramax will remain parked for the duration of the strike.


Ditto

Pure Energy 04-01-2008 08:27 AM

From what I've heard on the news there is no shortage, just a lack of increase in refinement.

Also heard that the refineries are old and oil companies are crying about improvement costs. I guess a couple of billion dollars in profit per quarter is not enough!!! Gotta keep those investors happy....good old American capitalism!

I say strike!!! Sometimes we have to make sacrifices in order to make progress!!!

pachanga 04-01-2008 08:29 AM

I remember when UPS went on strike! I owned my own rig then and was just waiting for UPS to tell all the strikers to take a hike! I wouldda been like stink on sh*t gettin to that line to apply for onna dem creamy UPS jobs! I certainly think you guys got very lucky.


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 2508194)
correct, while at UPS and we were on strike, it was about a contract, unfortunately this is only a solidarity protest and will most likely have some blow hard in Washington try to pipe up and win some support for himself...As someone said in an earlier post, they should look into the futures traders.


hunster 04-01-2008 08:30 AM

NJ truckers are gonna slow down the turnpike @ 12. Can't wait to see this.

pachanga 04-01-2008 08:33 AM

I personally think some of the other governments that don't like the USA have finally got a grip on the balls of the USA. Many people believe WW3 will be a fincial war. Look at all the crap that's happening. Look how much of the US is owned by foriegners. Look whose holding the majority of the US debt. Etc,Etc.


Originally Posted by Pure Energy (Post 2508299)
From what I've heard on the news there is no shortage, just a lack of increase in refinement.

Also heard that the refineries are old and oil companies are crying about improvement costs. I guess a couple of billion dollars in profit per quarter is not enough!!! Gotta keep those investors happy....good old American capitalism!

I say strike!!! Sometimes we have to make sacrifices in order to make progress!!!


offshoredrillin 04-01-2008 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by pachanga (Post 2508303)
I remember when UPS went on strike! I owned my own rig then and was just waiting for UPS to tell all the strikers to take a hike! I wouldda been like stink on sh*t gettin to that line to apply for onna dem creamy UPS jobs! I certainly think you guys got very lucky.

Well, as a shop steward for 4 years I'll let you think that. UPS hides behind a huge brown curtain of public perception. Generally the drivers are good family people, but the drivers of the past are leaving in droves as the company continues to get so big it runs itself. I will assure you though, nothing at UPS was "creamy". We were far from lucky, the marriage between UPS and the teamsters is one that feeds on itself, kind of a self fullfilling prohecy.

sommerfliesby 04-01-2008 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin (Post 2508261)
You have a point there- many states are pilfering from infrastructure just to prop their house of cards up. Ohio is basically a shell. Business is leaving at a steady stream and new companies aren't looking here. Our state government keeps looking for ways to nickle and dime us to death with fees for everything. Not only is the state doing this, so are the cities. On top of that, they're looking to cash out of the revenue-deriving pieces of the infrastructure. The want to sell toll roads, water/sewer, etc. They claim they want to reinvest in the state- you know they'll piss it away keeping themselves in office and the average guy will pay the freight in the form of increased costs for services.

Selling the toll road...already happened here! Plus, Chicago is THE most taxed city in the country. But hey...somebody has to pay for all of the Cook County Board President's families' jobs!

Agree 100% on the lack of refining capacity being the major problem...that's why we see prices at the pump spike if there's a refinery fire somewhere. Dems won't allow construction of any new ones...nobody wants one in their backyard.

45sonic 04-01-2008 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by bojoe2 (Post 2508206)
.... im leaving my 350 diesel home how about you :D i havent driven it in 2 months

Our F-350 has been parked for two weeks. Only use it for yard work and towing the boat now.

Chris Sunkin 04-01-2008 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by hunster (Post 2508304)
NJ truckers are gonna slow down the turnpike @ 12. Can't wait to see this.

That'll help.

bgchuby01 04-01-2008 09:35 AM

I just looked at both CNN and Fox News and only CNN ran a small article about it. I would think it would create a bigger news item


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