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redcorvetteman3 05-04-2009 03:48 PM

Trailer tires
 
Hey everyone with all the bad P/R on Goodyear Marathon and Carsile tires I was thinking on going with Maxxis Tires. I tow a tripple axle 15k . What load range would be best "d" or "e". Is there another brand I should consider?

boatman22 05-04-2009 03:54 PM

Maxxis load E on my trailer for over a year and no problems. I can't say that about any other brand.

Big Time 05-04-2009 04:25 PM

I would go with "e" if you can...always better to be on the safer side. I have "d" on my twin axle and I'm only towing 8k.

Craney 05-04-2009 05:44 PM

Whats the bad P/R with Goodyear Marathon? I have Marathon s for 3 years now with no problems.

redcorvetteman3 05-04-2009 08:39 PM

tires
 
Theres been some problem with them seperating . I did a search couple months ago and they were saying that when they started making them in the china plant they started having issues. I also have been running them just scared to keep on running them . My local Tire Barn guy said they have had some problems and would recommend another brand.

baywatch 05-04-2009 09:10 PM

E without a doubt for that sort of weight.

07DominatorSS 05-04-2009 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by Craney (Post 2858789)
Whats the bad P/R with Goodyear Marathon? I have Marathon s for 3 years now with no problems.

Same here, "knock on wood", they've been good for me. I have a triple towing at least 10k.

DareDevil 05-04-2009 09:44 PM

I have good year work horse ,, e and i think there on the trailer since 1992 !!!!!!!:eek:

I drive all around in the us and not 1 problem yet !!!!:ernaehrung004:

Sydwayz 05-04-2009 10:13 PM

Forget trailer tires.

Go with Firestone TransForce LT 16" E load range tires. They work great on a trailer.

If you have to buy trailer tires, go with Goodyear Marathon ONLY.

FINMAN 05-05-2009 09:01 AM

I am going to try these guys when I buy my trailer tires.
I have heard good things about them from the rv guys.
http://www.denmantire.com/catalog.php

Fin

26sxl 05-05-2009 05:02 PM

Check out Gearworks mfg.com for tires&wheels

BenPerfected 05-05-2009 07:50 PM

PM Mama Tryed. He is in the wholesale tire business and he is very knowledgeable about trailer tires. He can give you up to date info on Goodyear Marathons and others. He can also give you a good price and save you a lot of time doing research.

mama tryed 05-07-2009 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by redcorvetteman3 (Post 2858719)
Hey everyone with all the bad P/R on Goodyear Marathon and Carsile tires I was thinking on going with Maxxis Tires. I tow a tripple axle 15k . What load range would be best "d" or "e". Is there another brand I should consider?

what size rims do you have?

boatman22 05-07-2009 06:51 AM

Maxxis was the only 15" tire I could find with an e rating.

redcorvetteman3 05-07-2009 07:33 AM

Tires
 
Tires are 225 75 r 15 Hey also looking for a couple American Racing wheels #39 15x7 if anyone has a line on a couple.Thanks

32storm 05-08-2009 08:58 PM

[QUOTE=Sydwayz;2859007]Forget trailer tires.

Go with Firestone TransForce LT 16" E load range tires. They work great on a trailer.
/QUOTE]

I agree. My trailer came with LT truck tires. I have a steady supply of take offs from my 2500 GMC....never have to worry about dry rot either.

mama tryed 05-09-2009 02:23 AM


Originally Posted by redcorvetteman3 (Post 2860803)
Tires are 225 75 r 15 Hey also looking for a couple American Racing wheels #39 15x7 if anyone has a line on a couple.Thanks

The GY Marathon's would run 95.00 a tire plus freight.

Mitch

gofastkyle 05-09-2009 09:04 AM

if you were going to buy new wheels any way, bump up to 16". alot more tires available in the load range you are looking for. goodyear actually make a g rated tire that is used on stacker trailers and heavy boat applications. it is a great tire, but expensive.

HabanaJoe 05-09-2009 10:30 AM

Here's my advice for what it is worth:

If your trailer has spring suspension go with Load range E

If your trailer has torsion tube go with Load range D

Here is why, the springs do not flex as much as the torison tube so the side walls take a lot more flexing running down the road, the higher load range will force more bounce into the springs and less into the sidewalls. The torsion tubes have have great travel and have a more gradual progressive rate since they have more travel thus allowing more of the travel to go to the suspenison rather than the sidewall - you don't need heavy sidewalls unless you have allot of weight.

With springs you usally have equalizers between the 3 springs and the bounce is transfered from the front axle back to the rear axle and vice verus which again beats up the tire sidewalls - with torsion each wheel is seperate with no reverb.

Also, if you were changing everything go with the largest dia rim and tire you can fit - the bigger the tire the slower it turns the longer it lasts and everything else!!!! Common sense.

My trailer has 16" LoadStar Karrier radial tires load range D with torison tube and 15,000 lbs, I have as of last week 17,000 miles in 2 years on those tires and will get another 10,000 out of them with ease.

Just my two sense.

redcorvetteman3 05-09-2009 12:33 PM

Thanks guys Im planning on the using the Maxxis brand so as not to have to buy new wheels . But yea Il go to 16 when I can

kenwm2118 05-26-2009 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by redcorvetteman3 (Post 2858719)
Hey everyone with all the bad P/R on Goodyear Marathon and Carsile tires I was thinking on going with Maxxis Tires. I tow a tripple axle 15k . What load range would be best "d" or "e". Is there another brand I should consider?

I just installed six new Maxxis tires on my trailer. 205 75 15's on a Hi Tech Marine trailer for my Sunsation 23ss. I have done as lot of reserach on them and I have a three hundred mile pull this weekend. If you want info on the tires I have some. These are tires that RV's use a lot. Try RV.net for additionall info.

redcorvetteman3 05-27-2009 09:54 PM

I went with Maxxis load range E pulled to cumberland OSS race few days back NO problems . Also bought road hazard at Discount Tire , Ill up date this thread as milage progreses. Thanks for all the input.

kenwm2118 05-27-2009 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by redcorvetteman3 (Post 2874535)
I went with Maxxis load range E pulled to cumberland OSS race few days back NO problems . Also bought road hazard at Discount Tire , Ill up date this thread as milage progreses. Thanks for all the input.

I could only get load rance "C" due to tire size. However, I expect good results. I also purchased the same coverage from the same place. I have a 300 mile pull this weekend. The start of the 2009 Offshore power boat races in Ocean City Maryland. I'll post after the pull.

Catmando 06-03-2009 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by kenwm2118 (Post 2873317)
I just installed six new Maxxis tires on my trailer. 205 75 15's on a Hi Tech Marine trailer for my Sunsation 23ss. I have done as lot of reserach on them and I have a three hundred mile pull this weekend. If you want info on the tires I have some. These are tires that RV's use a lot. Try RV.net for additionall info.

You have a triple axle trailer under a 23' boat??

Dock Holiday 06-04-2009 08:11 AM

Too many trailers were built just on the edge of the maximum load carrying capacity it was to carry. There is no service factor and they eat tires.

I have trailered over 80K miles with the last two boats I have owned with Myco brand trailers and they build them right to be able to carry more than what the boat weighs.

I am happy to report that I got 40K miles out of the original Goodyear Marathons (235-85R16 Load Range "E") before the first tire seperated. I was lucky enough to catch it before it actually failed and knew it was time to change them all out for new. I went back with the same tire.

My boat and trailer combined with a full load of fuel and gear weighs in at 12,745 lbs and the triple axles trailer has a capacity of 18k lbs. That gives me a good service factor or cushion which keeps everything from being maxed out all the time.

Tire Tips:

You MUST maintain proper tire pressure on a trailer no exception.

If you don't have one you should invest in a simple non-contact Infrared Thermometer. I keep one in the drivers door compartment and everytime we tow a long didstance and stop at a rest area or for fuel I shoot the trailer tires and the truck tires to make sure they are good and I don't have one that is starting to fail. What I mean by shooting the tire is simply pointing the laser at them and seeing what the temperature is on the side wall of the tire. If you have a tire that is hotter than the others by 15 degrees or more you are wish to go ahead and pull it off while at a safe location because it will blow.

Note that you are looking for consistency of tire temps on one side of the trailer only. The tire temps can vary from side to side because one side will be shaded and the other will have direct sunlinght. In the winter months temperatures of 50 to 60 degrees are normal and in August I can see temps of 110 degrees on the shaded side and 120 degrees on the side in the direct sunlight. Again what you are looking for is consistency of all the tires on the same side.

You can pick these up at a lot of places now and I also stock and sell the Timken brand so if interested drop me a line and I'll ship you one. They have a 1000 uses and really handy.

http://www.timken.com/en-us/products...s/default.aspx

Happy Towing

Dock Holiday 06-04-2009 08:16 AM

Oh yeah one last thing as mentioned by others the torsion axles are much easier on tires then springs.

prostock85 06-04-2009 07:55 PM

I run BF Goodrich extra miler w/f 9.50 x 16.50 10 ply load range E, they are getting old, tread is like new but just starting to crack. Should I stay with the same or change?

redcorvetteman3 06-04-2009 08:07 PM

On the axle subject ... yes it seems most trailers were built with 5k axles right on the edge of capacity. My torsion type axle experience has been that they give out after time and the fenders rub the tires. I quess the rubber flattens out and it looses ride hieght . Had that problem with a couple sea doo's on a single axle dexter trailer. Have you had that experience yet ? Boats are much heavier seems like it would happen sooner.With spring axles seems like 30 yrs later there still about the same . What brands of temp guns are best for the money ? what should I expect to pay? Thanks

prostock85 06-04-2009 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by prostock85 (Post 2880907)
I run BF Goodrich extra miler w/f 9.50 x 16.50 10 ply load range E, they are getting old, tread is like new but just starting to crack. Should I stay with the same or change?

Ok, I give up, I can't seem to find replacement tires on any tire sites. What do I need to look for? I cant remember if they are 27, 29, 30, or 31. I checked all the sizes.... I think when I measured they were 29" with the boat/trailer load on them

These are 8 lug wheels on 6K axles

rbtnt 06-04-2009 09:44 PM

I have been using a Infrared Thermometer for years. As Dock said, I look for consistency in the temp on each side. I also shoot the hubs on each wheel.

I think I paid $40 - $50 for my Raytek minitemp which is very small and fits in the door storage compartment.

I have used it for all sorts of things like checking for missing insulation in walls, air leaks arouind outlets.

Sydwayz 06-04-2009 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by rbtnt (Post 2881010)
I have been using a Infrared Thermometer for years. As Dock said, I look for consistency in the temp on each side. I also shoot the hubs on each wheel.

I think I paid $40 - $50 for my Raytek minitemp which is very small and fits in the door storage compartment.

I have used it for all sorts of things like checking for missing insulation in walls, air leaks arouind outlets.

Ditto that! Each time I stop I check all of the truck tires, all of the trailer tires, trailer hubs, trailer brakes, and sometimes even the truck exhaust temp in different places, transfer case, and rear axle pumpkin. Ties on the side of the sun when towing will run 5-10 degrees warmer. Other than that, you should see uniformity.

kenwm2118 06-05-2009 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 2880161)
You have a triple axle trailer under a 23' boat??

Sorry it's a 32ss:lolhit:

Catmando 06-05-2009 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by kenwm2118 (Post 2881736)
Sorry it's a 32ss:lolhit:

Well I had a trip under a 24 so I can't say too much lol.

ActiveFun 06-10-2009 11:16 AM

What is typical tire pressure for a dual axel 12,000lb trailer?

redcorvetteman3 06-10-2009 09:29 PM

The tire pressure is specific to the tire and marked on the tire not the number of axles.

32storm 06-13-2009 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by prostock85 (Post 2880921)
Ok, I give up, I can't seem to find replacement tires on any tire sites. What do I need to look for? I cant remember if they are 27, 29, 30, or 31. I checked all the sizes.... I think when I measured they were 29" with the boat/trailer load on them

These are 8 lug wheels on 6K axles

You are going to be limited on options on 16.5 tires. 16.5's were once the size used on 3/4 & 1 ton pick-ups. You can find these size LT tires at Pep Boys, Firestone, etc.

I bit the bullet and replaced mine with 16" rims.

DareDevil 06-13-2009 09:53 PM

The best tires for 16.5 inch rims are good year workhorse LT

thats what i have.

PARADOX 06-13-2009 10:19 PM

Just stay away from Carlisle tires. I flipped my boat, trailer and truck when a brand new rear tire blew. The tire had about 200 miles on it.

Biligemouth 09-14-2009 12:09 PM

I have had very poor luck with Carlise as well. Had one tire that had been mounted as a spare for 1.5 years. I had to use it and it got a side wall knot in less than 40 miles. I also had a year old one blow out Labor Day weekend. These were all 8 ply tires, tandom axle trailer w/ an 8000# boat.

I know this is an old thread, just wanted to spread the word on Carlise.

Sweet Nmocean 09-14-2009 01:47 PM

I have carlise as well no problems but I looked and they were made in china I am going to replace them in the spring.


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