What would it take to tow 25k+# legally?
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This guy here claims he gets 12-15 mpg,dont know if its fwd tho..
http://www.projo.com/projocars/conte...3.26267dc.html
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I may be way off here, but have you considered possibly legally hauling the load OTR with one of your big trucks, getting it to the site, and just dropping it in place with an older (maybe 99-03) F350 that's beefed up (airbags, etc). I'm betting you could safely move the load off road at low speeds, especially in 4L. Or am I missing the point? You could even leave this truck at the site.
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Cale, Call the guys at Tulsa Truck. They are across the street from U-Haul at 51st and 169. They make nice trucks. Just do it right and roll with a rig that can handle the load with 4wd.
I've never dealt with them, but have seen some nice product come out of there.
http://www.tulsatruckmfg.com/
I've never dealt with them, but have seen some nice product come out of there.
http://www.tulsatruckmfg.com/
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I may be way off here, but have you considered possibly legally hauling the load OTR with one of your big trucks, getting it to the site, and just dropping it in place with an older (maybe 99-03) F350 that's beefed up (airbags, etc). I'm betting you could safely move the load off road at low speeds, especially in 4L. Or am I missing the point? You could even leave this truck at the site.
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I don't know why you think the truck needs to be rated from the factory for more then what you are hauling. From my research and personal experience the FMCSA DOT only cares about what your driver is licensed for and what the truck is licensed for. How else would trucking companies hull 130,000lbs+ (with permit) on the same truck that hauls 80,000 on a normal day. You don't buy a kenworth based on what its rated to tow. I think you will be legal with one of those 4x4's as long as your driver has a class a and your plates are apportioned.
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I don't know why you think the truck needs to be rated from the factory for more then what you are hauling. From my research and personal experience the FMCSA DOT only cares about what your driver is licensed for and what the truck is licensed for. How else would trucking companies hull 130,000lbs+ (with permit) on the same truck that hauls 80,000 on a normal day. You don't buy a kenworth based on what its rated to tow. I think you will be legal with one of those 4x4's as long as your driver has a class a and your plates are apportioned.
And a kenworth is over 33k, which is a class 8 set of rules. Once you go over class 6, the weights aren't considered as "payload" or "towing capability", they are only based on "per axle weight unless specially permitted"..
Being as how the product is a double placard with inhalation hazard and special hazmat permit, our max will be 33k in Oklahoma unless we change our operating authority to a federal level and become an inTERstate carrier.
We had a flatbed SRW F250 that we used to tow a tandem dually 30' gooseneck with wideload poly chemical tanks. They permitted us to about 12' if I remember correctly. I got stopped in OKC for a permit check and was given a ticket for being 16,000 pounds OVERWEIGHT.. Now this is where it gets tricky, its up to the officers interpretation of the rulebook..His and HIS only, until you get in front of a judge. But he wrote me a ticket for exceeding the trucks CAPACITY by hauling a trailer with more CAPABILITY. The trailer was rated for 33k, the truck was NOT. So the difference between those two is what I was consiidered to be "overweight".
So if you haul a 44' boat trailer with your 1/2 ton (well within the trucks ABILITY and CAPACITY), in OK they will consider you to be overweight by however much the trailer has the plates to haul.
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Against the scales, those truck axles will weigh the same PER AXLE as allowable by law.. They arent hauling 130k on 2 axle flatbeds. They are hauling that 130k on 6 or 8 different axles plus the drive and steer...
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Cale, Call the guys at Tulsa Truck. They are across the street from U-Haul at 51st and 169. They make nice trucks. Just do it right and roll with a rig that can handle the load with 4wd.
I've never dealt with them, but have seen some nice product come out of there.
http://www.tulsatruckmfg.com/
I've never dealt with them, but have seen some nice product come out of there.
http://www.tulsatruckmfg.com/
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