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Originally Posted by soldier4402
(Post 3475436)
Ok you were right chevy is 10,600. Buts its not the standard 1500 you are talking the 6.2L which is a gas hog. So basically you have a 2500 engine in a 1500.
Either way, 10k+ behind a 5k truck....the trailer will do the driving when things get hairy. I hope your dealer lets you do a real good demo towing your boat. I'm sure we'll all look forward to getting your real world experience. If all goes well, you'll be looking for a bigger boat to pull. :D Perhaps you can run E85, turn up the boost, and safely pull 15k down the road...:coolcowboy: |
Originally Posted by handfulz28
(Post 3475570)
It's still on a half-ton platform. According to http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/towing/ you have to order the Max Towing Package also; otherwise tow ratings are pretty similar. And don't forget to pay attention to MAX GCWR.
Either way, 10k+ behind a 5k truck....the trailer will do the driving when things get hairy. I hope your dealer lets you do a real good demo towing your boat. I'm sure we'll all look forward to getting your real world experience. If all goes well, you'll be looking for a bigger boat to pull. :D Perhaps you can run E85, turn up the boost, and safely pull 15k down the road...:coolcowboy: Good thing about a Ford is its heavier than the rest. And yes chevy has the 6.2L in it but it cant tow as much and sucks gas. I dont know if your bent because Im going ford. But to be honest Im more of a chevy man, but to be frank they dont have anything to match the ford right now. |
I do not believe you will have issues with your described towing envelope
- and in fact I think you will be thrilled with the truck. Both my friends are. Calling on my firsthand experience with this vehicle I believe the EB F150 s-crew 3:73 to be the finest 1/2 ton available today. Thing is everything in life is a trade off. There are many reasons why a 1/2 ton is a better choice than a 3/4 ton when its accepted that you will be living within its towing and hauling capability\ envelope. The minute I have needs beyond my 1/2 tons envelope I will move to a 3/4 ton diesel - then Ill have to live with the downside of such a vehicle. Uncle Dave |
My 04 F150 pulls my 29 Fever 454's no problem and its 5.4 is nothing compaired to the ecoboost. I believe the eco is all forged engine and the F150 frames are over kill.
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Originally Posted by Uncle Dave
(Post 3475651)
I do not believe you will have issues with your described towing envelope
- and in fact I think you will be thrilled with the truck. Both my friends are. Calling on my firsthand experience with this vehicle I believe the EB F150 s-crew 3:73 to be the finest 1/2 ton available today. Thing is everything in life is a trade off. There are many reasons why a 1/2 ton is a better choice than a 3/4 ton when its accepted that you will be living within its towing and hauling capability\ envelope. The minute I have needs beyond my 1/2 tons envelope I will move to a 3/4 ton diesel - then Ill have to live with the downside of such a vehicle. Uncle Dave But its the guys that think a dually is an answer to everything. Funny some mention that buddy of mine has a 09 F450 has the same attitude guess what he tows? Four snowmobiles on an open trailer, probably 3500lbs. Oh he tows a 20ft horse trailer that weighs probably two and a 1000lb horse maybe 2-3 times a year. But if you want to waste your money like that go ahead, and I can promise you on a 3k load that thing tows no better than a F250 |
A good friend of mine works at a Dealership that sells both Ford and Chevy's. He's not getting the mileage Ford is claiming (towing is worse then the 5.4) on his personal 11 150 and there has been some tranny issues with the new powertrain. Can't remeber what he sid it was with the Trannys but it appears not to be isolated.
Keep in mind when your towing anywhere close to the rated towing - the GCWR, RGAW, GVWR ratings for the truck. Exceeding any of the ratings opens you up to a nightmare existance should the un-thinkable happen on say a wet highway. Lawyers love the fools who blatantly exceed vehicle ratings. Negligence is a expensive lesson, not a excuse and why anyone risks everything for something so easily avoidable is beyond me. My bet is you'd be within the capabilities and ratings with that set-up but I'd weigh it all to be sure. Great peace of mind! |
Originally Posted by ZP'd
(Post 3476080)
A good friend of mine works at a Dealership that sells both Ford and Chevy's. He's not getting the mileage Ford is claiming (towing is worse then the 5.4) on his personal 11 150 and there has been some tranny issues with the new powertrain. Can't remeber what he sid it was with the Trannys but it appears not to be isolated.
Keep in mind when your towing anywhere close to the rated towing - the GCWR, RGAW, GVWR ratings for the truck. Exceeding any of the ratings opens you up to a nightmare existance should the un-thinkable happen on say a wet highway. Lawyers love the fools who blatantly exceed vehicle ratings. Negligence is a expensive lesson, not a excuse and why anyone risks everything for something so easily avoidable is beyond me. My bet is you'd be within the capabilities and ratings with that set-up but I'd weigh it all to be sure. Great peace of mind! The trans issue is with the pump, its been identified and fixed. My experience in driving it and with the 2 owners I know is you can easily get the city mileage of 15 but the highway miles requires cruise and flat ground with minimal hills. The disconnect seems to be with the sales people and the clients vs the window sticker and the clients. Towing mileage - this is misleading, because the eco actually does something when you mash it in high gear when towing where the 5.4 doesnt. I am personally willing to pay a towing mileage "penalty" to have actual towing performance available for passing on hills and in mountain areas and sustained climbs. UD |
Originally Posted by ZP'd
(Post 3476080)
A good friend of mine works at a Dealership that sells both Ford and Chevy's. He's not getting the mileage Ford is claiming (towing is worse then the 5.4) on his personal 11 150 and there has been some tranny issues with the new powertrain. Can't remeber what he sid it was with the Trannys but it appears not to be isolated.
Keep in mind when your towing anywhere close to the rated towing - the GCWR, RGAW, GVWR ratings for the truck. Exceeding any of the ratings opens you up to a nightmare existance should the un-thinkable happen on say a wet highway. Lawyers love the fools who blatantly exceed vehicle ratings. Negligence is a expensive lesson, not a excuse and why anyone risks everything for something so easily avoidable is beyond me. My bet is you'd be within the capabilities and ratings with that set-up but I'd weigh it all to be sure. Great peace of mind! |
Originally Posted by Uncle Dave
(Post 3476113)
Havent seen may dealerships that sell Ford and GM product on the same lot. Curious where this dealership is?
The trans issue is with the pump, its been identified and fixed. My experience in driving it and with the 2 owners I know is you can easily get the city mileage of 15 but the highway miles requires cruise and flat ground with minimal hills. The disconnect seems to be with the sales people and the clients vs the window sticker and the clients. Towing mileage - this is misleading, because the eco actually does something when you mash it in high gear when towing where the 5.4 doesnt. I am personally willing to pay a towing mileage "penalty" to have actual towing performance available for passing on hills and in mountain areas and sustained climbs. UD I havent heard of any tranny issues in the many that we have sold though either. I will say you absolutley cannot compare a halfton Ford to a halfton chevy. |
Not apples to apples, but my daily driver is a lincoln mkt with ecoboost. 14k miles so far and I average 19mpg. My car weighs close to same as F150. Absolutely love the power.
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