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handfulz28 08-10-2011 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by soldier4402 (Post 3475436)
Ok you were right chevy is 10,600. Buts its not the standard 1500 you are talking the 6.2L which is a gas hog. So basically you have a 2500 engine in a 1500.

It's still on a half-ton platform. According to http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/towing/ you have to order the Max Towing Package also; otherwise tow ratings are pretty similar. And don't forget to pay attention to MAX GCWR.

Either way, 10k+ behind a 5k truck....the trailer will do the driving when things get hairy.

I hope your dealer lets you do a real good demo towing your boat. I'm sure we'll all look forward to getting your real world experience. If all goes well, you'll be looking for a bigger boat to pull. :D Perhaps you can run E85, turn up the boost, and safely pull 15k down the road...:coolcowboy:

soldier4402 08-10-2011 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by handfulz28 (Post 3475570)
It's still on a half-ton platform. According to http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/towing/ you have to order the Max Towing Package also; otherwise tow ratings are pretty similar. And don't forget to pay attention to MAX GCWR.

Either way, 10k+ behind a 5k truck....the trailer will do the driving when things get hairy.

I hope your dealer lets you do a real good demo towing your boat. I'm sure we'll all look forward to getting your real world experience. If all goes well, you'll be looking for a bigger boat to pull. :D Perhaps you can run E85, turn up the boost, and safely pull 15k down the road...:coolcowboy:

Really dont know what you are trying to get at. Yes I ordered the max trailering package along with the 3.73 gears, your telling me things I already know.

Good thing about a Ford is its heavier than the rest.

And yes chevy has the 6.2L in it but it cant tow as much and sucks gas.


I dont know if your bent because Im going ford. But to be honest Im more of a chevy man, but to be frank they dont have anything to match the ford right now.

Uncle Dave 08-10-2011 07:59 PM

I do not believe you will have issues with your described towing envelope

- and in fact I think you will be thrilled with the truck.

Both my friends are.

Calling on my firsthand experience with this vehicle I believe the EB F150 s-crew 3:73 to be the finest 1/2 ton available today.

Thing is everything in life is a trade off.

There are many reasons why a 1/2 ton is a better choice than a 3/4 ton when its accepted that you will be living within its towing and hauling capability\ envelope.

The minute I have needs beyond my 1/2 tons envelope I will move to a 3/4 ton diesel - then Ill have to live with the downside of such a vehicle.


Uncle Dave

sirfartsalot 08-11-2011 07:21 AM

My 04 F150 pulls my 29 Fever 454's no problem and its 5.4 is nothing compaired to the ecoboost. I believe the eco is all forged engine and the F150 frames are over kill.

soldier4402 08-11-2011 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 3475651)
I do not believe you will have issues with your described towing envelope

- and in fact I think you will be thrilled with the truck.

Both my friends are.

Calling on my firsthand experience with this vehicle I believe the EB F150 s-crew 3:73 to be the finest 1/2 ton available today.

Thing is everything in life is a trade off.

There are many reasons why a 1/2 ton is a better choice than a 3/4 ton when its accepted that you will be living within its towing and hauling capability\ envelope.

The minute I have needs beyond my 1/2 tons envelope I will move to a 3/4 ton diesel - then Ill have to live with the downside of such a vehicle.


Uncle Dave

Thanks for the info. Numbers wise the truck will do it safely, legally, and be covered under insurance. I was just looking for first or second hand knowledge and have gotten it. I dont understand people saying it cant do this and that, get a diesel when they for one dont have a diesel or an ecoboost. I stated in my orginal post I HAVE DIESEL and know what it can do. But you are right there will be a trade off. If I was towing this boat 8 months out of the year cross country or 2-3 hours keeping my truck would be a no brainer.

But its the guys that think a dually is an answer to everything. Funny some mention that buddy of mine has a 09 F450 has the same attitude guess what he tows? Four snowmobiles on an open trailer, probably 3500lbs. Oh he tows a 20ft horse trailer that weighs probably two and a 1000lb horse maybe 2-3 times a year. But if you want to waste your money like that go ahead, and I can promise you on a 3k load that thing tows no better than a F250

ZP'd 08-11-2011 09:29 AM

A good friend of mine works at a Dealership that sells both Ford and Chevy's. He's not getting the mileage Ford is claiming (towing is worse then the 5.4) on his personal 11 150 and there has been some tranny issues with the new powertrain. Can't remeber what he sid it was with the Trannys but it appears not to be isolated.

Keep in mind when your towing anywhere close to the rated towing - the GCWR, RGAW, GVWR ratings for the truck.

Exceeding any of the ratings opens you up to a nightmare existance should the un-thinkable happen on say a wet highway. Lawyers love the fools who blatantly exceed vehicle ratings. Negligence is a expensive lesson, not a excuse and why anyone risks everything for something so easily avoidable is beyond me. My bet is you'd be within the capabilities and ratings with that set-up but I'd weigh it all to be sure. Great peace of mind!

Uncle Dave 08-11-2011 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by ZP'd (Post 3476080)
A good friend of mine works at a Dealership that sells both Ford and Chevy's. He's not getting the mileage Ford is claiming (towing is worse then the 5.4) on his personal 11 150 and there has been some tranny issues with the new powertrain. Can't remeber what he sid it was with the Trannys but it appears not to be isolated.

Keep in mind when your towing anywhere close to the rated towing - the GCWR, RGAW, GVWR ratings for the truck.

Exceeding any of the ratings opens you up to a nightmare existance should the un-thinkable happen on say a wet highway. Lawyers love the fools who blatantly exceed vehicle ratings. Negligence is a expensive lesson, not a excuse and why anyone risks everything for something so easily avoidable is beyond me. My bet is you'd be within the capabilities and ratings with that set-up but I'd weigh it all to be sure. Great peace of mind!

Havent seen may dealerships that sell Ford and GM product on the same lot. Curious where this dealership is?

The trans issue is with the pump, its been identified and fixed.

My experience in driving it and with the 2 owners I know is you can easily get the city mileage of 15 but the highway miles requires cruise and flat ground with minimal hills.

The disconnect seems to be with the sales people and the clients vs the window sticker and the clients.

Towing mileage - this is misleading, because the eco actually does something when you mash it in high gear when towing where the 5.4 doesnt.

I am personally willing to pay a towing mileage "penalty" to have actual towing performance available for passing on hills and in mountain areas and sustained climbs.

UD

soldier4402 08-11-2011 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by ZP'd (Post 3476080)
A good friend of mine works at a Dealership that sells both Ford and Chevy's. He's not getting the mileage Ford is claiming (towing is worse then the 5.4) on his personal 11 150 and there has been some tranny issues with the new powertrain. Can't remeber what he sid it was with the Trannys but it appears not to be isolated.

Keep in mind when your towing anywhere close to the rated towing - the GCWR, RGAW, GVWR ratings for the truck.

Exceeding any of the ratings opens you up to a nightmare existance should the un-thinkable happen on say a wet highway. Lawyers love the fools who blatantly exceed vehicle ratings. Negligence is a expensive lesson, not a excuse and why anyone risks everything for something so easily avoidable is beyond me. My bet is you'd be within the capabilities and ratings with that set-up but I'd weigh it all to be sure. Great peace of mind!

Thanks. Yeah I think ford claims 16mpg towing like 4k lbs or something. Otherwise they are in the 15-21 range which I havent heard anybody be out of that range yet.

soonenough 08-11-2011 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 3476113)
Havent seen may dealerships that sell Ford and GM product on the same lot. Curious where this dealership is?

The trans issue is with the pump, its been identified and fixed.

My experience in driving it and with the 2 owners I know is you can easily get the city mileage of 15 but the highway miles requires cruise and flat ground with minimal hills.

The disconnect seems to be with the sales people and the clients vs the window sticker and the clients.

Towing mileage - this is misleading, because the eco actually does something when you mash it in high gear when towing where the 5.4 doesnt.

I am personally willing to pay a towing mileage "penalty" to have actual towing performance available for passing on hills and in mountain areas and sustained climbs.

UD

I work at a Ford and GM store in Iowa. So they do exist. lol

I havent heard of any tranny issues in the many that we have sold though either. I will say you absolutley cannot compare a halfton Ford to a halfton chevy.

Baja_342 08-11-2011 11:23 AM

Not apples to apples, but my daily driver is a lincoln mkt with ecoboost. 14k miles so far and I average 19mpg. My car weighs close to same as F150. Absolutely love the power.


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