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Uncle Dave 08-11-2011 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by soonenough (Post 3476173)
I work at a Ford and GM store in Iowa. So they do exist. lol

I havent heard of any tranny issues in the many that we have sold though either. I will say you absolutley cannot compare a halfton Ford to a halfton chevy.

Which one?

Sooo what kind of deal can you get for us then?

The trans issue is known. Any F150 forum will have several guys nailed by it.

UD

soldier4402 08-11-2011 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 3476113)
Havent seen may dealerships that sell Ford and GM product on the same lot. Curious where this dealership is?

The trans issue is with the pump, its been identified and fixed.

My experience in driving it and with the 2 owners I know is you can easily get the city mileage of 15 but the highway miles requires cruise and flat ground with minimal hills.

The disconnect seems to be with the sales people and the clients vs the window sticker and the clients.

Towing mileage - this is misleading, because the eco actually does something when you mash it in high gear when towing where the 5.4 doesnt.

I am personally willing to pay a towing mileage "penalty" to have actual towing performance available for passing on hills and in mountain areas and sustained climbs.

UD

I will gladly pay the penalty while towing, I am just done with paying the penalty the other 90% of the time. Hence this truck, first half ton that can tow my boat out there.

Quicksilver 08-11-2011 12:56 PM

A lot of people are still breaking in these trucks too so they have low mileage where mpg will be worse, buddy is still breaking his, think the last trip he got around 12 towing his 29ft CC here in FL which imo is still great. The big difference with the Ecoboost, is the way it effortlessly maintains speed and passing power on the highway or through hills when towing, that makes competitors V8's feel like their struggling.

Uncle Dave 08-11-2011 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 3476288)
A lot of people are still breaking in these trucks too so they have low mileage where mpg will be worse, buddy is still breaking his, think the last trip he got around 12 towing his 29ft CC here in FL which imo is still great. The big difference with the Ecoboost, is the way it effortlessly maintains speed and passing power on the highway or through hills when towing, that makes competitors V8's feel like their struggling.

They seem to loosen up after between 2& 3500

There is talk of a "break in map" that ford uses but that is unsibstantiated by them- people claim they see a mileage jump at 3500

You are correct about the feel when towing.
This is a huge deal where I live because of 2 major factors.

1 you are always climbing hills wherever you head. (mountains actually)

2. Its hotter than a whorehouse on dollar day where I tow and the heat KILLS NA trucks power when you combine it with the altitude. The eco maintains and sustains FULL power under these conditions.

I think a TT small V8 would be even neater.

UD

Quicksilver 08-11-2011 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 3476312)
They seem to loosen up after between 2& 3500

There is talk of a "break in map" that ford uses but that is unsibstantiated by them- people claim they see a mileage jump at 3500

You are correct about the feel when towing.
This is a huge deal where I live because of 2 major factors.

1 you are always climbing hills wherever you head. (mountains actually)

2. Its hotter than a whorehouse on dollar day where I tow and the heat KILLS NA trucks power when you combine it with the altitude. The eco maintains and sustains FULL power under these conditions.

I think a TT small V8 would be even neater.

UD

TT 5.0 would be sick, that motor is already responding to n/a bolt on's and a tune like crazy, 5* tune on that engine completely changes it. Gem of an engine, and can't get enough of that sound it has lol.

I don't think the Ecoboost will have a lot of mod potential, from what I understand Ford is using smaller turbo's on the F-150 vs other vehicles for almost instant spool and response with that flat torque band everywhere. And the ecu system and internals are different too I believe. I don't think the truck version will be showing the same gains the others do unless I'm wrong on the turbos size? But Ford has gotten strict with this engine, the ecu is encrypted and any type of mod even intake apparently voids the power-train warranty. But f' it, tune, intake, exhaust would be fun in this truck and even better mpg then it currently does.

soldier4402 08-12-2011 09:59 AM

The problem when you Turbo a V8 your not going to get better MPG you are going to get worse. It would be sweet t hought.

Uncle Dave 08-12-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by soldier4402 (Post 3477121)
The problem when you Turbo a V8 your not going to get better MPG you are going to get worse. It would be sweet t hought.

Agreed.

Heres is one of the 2 EB F150's I have towed with. This wasn't really a "load" but this trip accompanied me and the toy hauler and we switched off.

My Titan makes 379FT lb of torque only 41 less on paper.

But let me tell you because of the way the EB build it low - it is a world of difference.

A smaller displacement TT V8 like a 4.0 would be an interesting compromise between worse mileage but better performance.

UD

Quicksilver 08-12-2011 12:05 PM

Turbo's can increase mpg as they increase efficiency (however lay into the throttle and they'll drink more then in n/a form lol), the 5.0 is actually not far off, pretty close mpg wise to the Ecoboost, the 6.2 drinks fuel like crazy though. Friend used to have a TT Escalade, and it got noticeably better mpg then stock, even people that have done turbo's to the SRT-8 Jeeps gained mileage, and even the STS setups on the F-150's.

TT 5.0 in an F-150 would be sick :drink::grinser010:

soonenough 08-12-2011 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 3477200)
Turbo's can increase mpg as they increase efficiency (however lay into the throttle and they'll drink more then in n/a form lol), the 5.0 is actually not far off, pretty close mpg wise to the Ecoboost, the 6.2 drinks fuel like crazy though. Friend used to have a TT Escalade, and it got noticeably better mpg then stock, even people that have done turbo's to the SRT-8 Jeeps gained mileage, and even the STS setups on the F-150's.

TT 5.0 in an F-150 would be sick :drink::grinser010:


I have the 6.2L in my 150 and it is a blast to drive! Fuel sucks but what do you do!

Uncle Dave 08-12-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by soonenough (Post 3477242)
I have the 6.2L in my 150 and it is a blast to drive! Fuel sucks but what do you do!

The 6.2 is a blast- and if all out top end performance and modding was the goal - its the clear choice.

But for towing when you compare the area under the curve the EB is the clear choice.


UD


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