Originally Posted by mike tkach

i baught a 38 fountain,and towed it home,app 250 miles,i noticed some swaying of the trailer around long winds in the road,i am thinking about getting a dually to get rid of the swaying,when i got home,i checked the tire pressures in the trailer,they were set at the max pressure according to the marking on the tires,i see you said you cant feef a difference with both of your trucks.do you notice any swaying when you tow your boat,and what is the length of your boat?when i tow my 31 ao cat,i feel no swaying,o i forgot to mention,my truck is a 2005 f250 4wd,and have 15,000 miles on the tires.i really dont want to buy another truck,just to pull the fountain,but the swaying worries me,as i am planning some long trips with it next summer.any imput on the swaying,and how to get rid of it,will be appriciated.i think the toung weight is right.

Originally Posted by mike tkach

i baught a 38 fountain,and towed it home,app 250 miles,i noticed some swaying of the trailer around long winds in the road,i am thinking about getting a dually to get rid of the swaying,when i got home,i checked the tire pressures in the trailer,they were set at the max pressure according to the marking on the tires,i see you said you cant feef a difference with both of your trucks.do you notice any swaying when you tow your boat,and what is the length of your boat?when i tow my 31 ao cat,i feel no swaying,o i forgot to mention,my truck is a 2005 f250 4wd,and have 15,000 miles on the tires.i really dont want to buy another truck,just to pull the fountain,but the swaying worries me,as i am planning some long trips with it next summer.any imput on the swaying,and how to get rid of it,will be appriciated.i think the toung weight is right.

Originally Posted by offshorexcursion

BUT a DRW should not be a "band aid" for a poor trailer. I would rather see the trailer be "overkill" and the truck be a SRW diesel than the trailer be crap but the truck have training wheels on it.
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Originally Posted by offshorexcursion

Specialize in overweight, overheight, and overlength.


They use the same trucks to haul legal loads as extremly overweight loads, the only difference is the trailers. The trailers get longer with more axles and tires.

If the professionals do that then there is no reason why we should not.

Originally Posted by Downtown42

Actually I'll disagree. Kenworth and Peterbilt factory engineers will not build a new spec for anything over the stated capacity the tractor will be used for.

Your engine, driveline, axles, trans, hubs, air compressor, frame, air breathers, tires, etc will ALL be upgraded due to loads mainly over 110,000+ GCWR per factory spec.

When you snap a driveline or any other non-upgraded components you will void any warranty.

A standard 80,000 GCWR set up is not designed for extreme hauling. A professional will spec the rig for the job to be completed on time and not on the side of the highway waiting for the wrecker.

Just sayin, been selling new Paccar products for 25+ yrs.

Originally Posted by offshorexcursion

I know there are upgrades and some of my friends trucks have those. There are also many different levels of "big rig" trucks on the market.

I think you are missing my point though. To the normal person the trucks used to haul 80k are very similiar to the ones used to haul 160k. Its not illegal to haul with an average semi like people on OSO think it is to haul with a SRW etc. People recommend a dually for just a couple thousand lbs more weight then a SRW. Just showing how semis accomplish this. They just don't buy a semi thats twice the size of a normal semi to tow twice the weight.

Do you at least agree with the rest of what I think in my OP? Or do you think towing with a DRW and a crappy trailer is safe just cause its a DRW?

BTW, car hauling in Wisconsin as we speak!

Originally Posted by soldier4402

I have a fountain that weighs around 9500 and tow with an ecoboost that is rated for 11,300. I had a F250 diesel, and to be honest I dont know the difference. You have a lot of good points, but modern day half tons are more than capable than towing 5-6k lb loads these days. If you think about it, you have to look at the majority of drivers. They tow within 1-2hours from may to sep, and having a diesel around to do that just isnt cost effective. Now I would agree if your towing 8-10klbs from state to state on a regular basis or for your job than yes get a real truck. Right now I tow that boat with just my wife and I and bag 53 miles round trip. EB is saving me 85 bucks a week on fill up, $100 savings on oil changes a year, no fuel filters at 65 a crack, insurance is 100 cheaper a year, and registration is 40 bucks cheaper. Add that up and thats 4500 bucks a year to tow a boat 25mins one way, its kind of a no brainer. Truck pays for its self in gas savings and gives me more money in the pocket.

Originally Posted by mike tkach

i baught a 38 fountain,and towed it home,app 250 miles,i noticed some swaying of the trailer around long winds in the road,i am thinking about getting a dually to get rid of the swaying,when i got home,i checked the tire pressures in the trailer,they were set at the max pressure according to the marking on the tires,i see you said you cant feef a difference with both of your trucks.do you notice any swaying when you tow your boat,and what is the length of your boat?when i tow my 31 ao cat,i feel no swaying,o i forgot to mention,my truck is a 2005 f250 4wd,and have 15,000 miles on the tires.i really dont want to buy another truck,just to pull the fountain,but the swaying worries me,as i am planning some long trips with it next summer.any imput on the swaying,and how to get rid of it,will be appriciated.i think the toung weight is right.