bulletbob

Thats a killer package! It would have been my first choice over the burb. I have a one toned Burb with a 454, 4l80e, np205, 14 blt ff in rear and dana 60 up front. It will pull just about anything at 6 mpg. Lol! I love it though! I will probably do a cummins swap in the future unless diesel prices continue to go up.

ChargeIt

My error for making the ASSumption it was a conversion piece. Those were some hot numbers to pull by adding the second turbo. We are seeing more gas applicaitons with the TT as they try to squeeze more hp from every cubic inch (Liter).
Its neat to say "strap on the second turbo and watch these numbers from an otherwise stock motor". Its another to have the entire drive line hold together. With that kind of boost and hp, head studs and probably more internals will be necessary as is a very stout Allison mod that will set a person back more. All told, there needs to be about $10k spent before thinking about that kind of hp.

Sorry to send the thread in a different direction.

Those were nice stories about 'burbs in the last century, fast forward 20+ years to today's models I got off track from the original thread refering to with duraburb retro fit.

For the record I owned a '94 1500 350sb. I also briefly looked at them againin 2007 when making my last purchase. I listed my points against the suburban and why other options are stronger unless the 3rd row passenger seat is truely needed. (In the 5 years I owned my suburban, it was used twice)

Just to prove my point on capacity; Click on the "dimmensions" tab.......... http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/compa...331907&sValue=

A decked out 2500 4wd suburban and crew sb weigh the same 6400#
Both are rated to tow the same #9500 at the bumper with 3.73 gears but the Truck has 1000# more GVWR due to heavier front and rear springs (as I said originally; front 4500; (axle only rated 4200) vs 4800, rear 5500 vs 6200)

Even more significant, the wheelbase on the suburban is only 130" vs 153" on CCsb and 168" on the CCLB. A vehicle can have great horsepower and sufficient straight line stopping power with brakes and even electric trailer brakes but TOWING involves maintaining control of the load at all times.
This is the difinitive edge a truck has over an suv. Especially with a bumper tow, the softer suspension WILL compress more which can start the momentum of failure. Also a longer wheelbase will keep a rig tracking smoother with less push in those sketchy situations like corners, trailer wag and slick conditions.

Suburbans are nice vehicles and proven themselves adequate tow vehicles over the years if for no other reason, their sheer mass but dont try to make them do more than they are capable due to the laws of physics. There is a reason Jeep does not use a v8 like the old CJ's just like gm does not offer the 4.10 rear for the suburban like they do for truck that increases bumper tow to 13,000#.
I towed my 7k boat/trailer with both the suburban and truck, there is NO comparison. My current 2500 CCLB is so far beyond, my words will just stop........

soldier4402

chevy.com says 9600lbs. anyways your standard 4x4 one before any goodies is 51k. Unless you truley needed the third row, you can get super cab, whatever 4 door truck decked out for 5-10k cheaper that either tows the same or better. And will get better MPG. Burbs and others like serve a purpose for the family that hs 4-5 kids and tons of junk to haul. But really I think the concept is outdated and that is why you see fewer and fewer on the roads.

really look at the excursions numbers in 2003 they were only towing up 11k which isnt anything better than what some gassers on the market offer today

Kims

I have one of the few GMC Yukon XL2500, 8,1 with the right axles to make it legally tow 12K. My boat and trailer weighs in at 11.660 lbs and I will own that truck until it falls apart or I die. Best vehicle I ever had period ! I towed my boat from the west coast to the east coast and tow it around all over Florida now and never had an issue or ever felt unsafe. I also have 20" rims with tires rated for the weight and the boat is placed on the trailer so as to optimize the weight distribution. As for mileage...... Well, I wouldn't be on here if I really cared anyway, would I?

wannabe

X2 I have the 2500 Avalanche. Tows the Chris Cat great. I get a lot of comments on my boat.

Wannabe

befu

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I have a 2004 3/4 burb - 8.1L - 3.73's. Tow my 31' TT that weighs 10,000 loaded and it tows like a dream with all 9 kids and the wife in it (12 passenger). 8.25 mpg on the highway in the hills of PA loaded, 14 mpg on the highway without trailer. It really is an impressive package for a basic V8 gas truck. I would love to find a 1 ton passenger van with the 8.1L, not many out there.

Brian

Quinlan

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I would love to find a 1 ton passenger van with the 8.1L, not many out there.

Brian[/QUOTE]

I have one in the fleet. It rocks! Just the reg van not the extended. Dont think it can handle the Cig tho.
lady had it built to haul her Harley trailer around the country. 02 w only 75K or so.

Gibbs93

That truck is gonna fly

sprink58

This is a fun post.

vindicator101

I think this is the thread your referring too.http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...amax-swap.html