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Originally Posted by Smitty
(Post 3855699)
Put it in 4 low at the ramp if you have it. It will walk right out....
$500 per axle installed is about right. I assume its 4x4. If its 2wd disregard this whole post :lolhit: |
Originally Posted by GTOKILLER
(Post 3855724)
Exactly, I have a 08 F350 diesel & I still put mine in 4x4 LOW RANGE when pulling out of the lake. Its so much easier on the engine trans. My boat is not very big or heavy but It will pull out on an idle & I never slip a tire!
$500 per axle installed is about right. I assume its 4x4. If its 2wd disregard this whole post :lolhit: |
The biggest change you will notice is your gas mileage. The towing difference will be marginal. ou can do the same just by putting shorter tires on the truck. Better ways to gain the power. Muffler or exhaust, K&N filter cold air intake, reprogram, ect. These should get you what you need and better gas mileage at the same time. Plus you won't take the chance of messing up the truck if your trading it in anyways.
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Originally Posted by prostock85
(Post 3855674)
The reason I'm considering the change is with the 3.73 starting off on hills isn't the greatest. When I pull out of the marina I'm forced to immediately go up a decent incline. Same goes for the way to the lake, if I hit the light before the climb I'm in for a 1st gear run. In second I can just get about get 3,000 rpm and that's right outside my powerband. Once underway the boat is barely noticeable. So the trucks suspension is handling it with ease.
The hills are the killer difference. Towing my 242 with the 04 and 4:10 6.0L I could run cruise on BIG and long hills and rarely ever would the truck shift out of OD. With my 07 2500 Suburban at 3:73 it would shift out of OD before I could really even realize I was running up an incline. There really was quite a noticeable difference between 4:10 and 3:73 when the tow vehicle is pulling the weight on hills. Now I run a Dmax and love it but it is 3:73 and if it doesn't please me on a bigger boat, like a 382, then it will get 4:10 put in it. |
Originally Posted by charliem
(Post 3855637)
Front and rear ring and pinions, and reprogram. Honestly these will not make much difference other than pulling a hill a little. But legally the truck even with the modificatins can't exceed the factory aspecifications using the bar code in the door jamb. If you get pulled over by DOT that will be your first $1,000 fine plus what ever they can get you for. 10 years ago you could sneak around, but the law is after their money these days. You would be better off trading the truck for one that closer suits your needs. Also remember that anything over 10,000 you need a CDL with your health ceritifcate, and federal compliance to pull out of state. You guys with boats over 8'6 wide make sure to get your permits as the law is cracking down on that also.
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Originally Posted by charliem
(Post 3855778)
The biggest change you will notice is your gas mileage. The towing difference will be marginal. ou can do the same just by putting shorter tires on the truck. Better ways to gain the power. Muffler or exhaust, K&N filter cold air intake, reprogram, ect. These should get you what you need and better gas mileage at the same time. Plus you won't take the chance of messing up the truck if your trading it in anyways.
I'm curious about the mileage thing. I know on paper it's supposed to get worse but here's my argument. I had an 05 Trailblazer with the 4.2 275hp I6 with the 3.42's and it got horrendous mileage. The following year I bought a Trailblazer SS with the 395 horse 6.0 with 4.10's and got Much better mileage the the 6. I'm almost thinking that since the motor doesn't have to work as hard it may not be a noticeable difference. (Currently 12.6 combined)
Originally Posted by aquaforce
(Post 3855828)
The hills are the killer difference. Towing my 242 with the 04 and 4:10 6.0L I could run cruise on BIG and long hills and rarely ever would the truck shift out of OD. With my 07 2500 Suburban at 3:73 it would shift out of OD before I could really even realize I was running up an incline. There really was quite a noticeable difference between 4:10 and 3:73 when the tow vehicle is pulling the weight on hills.
Now I run a Dmax and love it but it is 3:73 and if it doesn't please me on a bigger boat, like a 382, then it will get 4:10 put in it. Thanks for the advice everyone. |
I think it all depends on the powerband while at highway speeds. Personally, I don't see going from a 3.73 to a 4.10 making much of a difference accelerating up a incline at 25-35mph. Now, holding a steady speed of 65mph up a incline, the 4.10's might keep the little 6.0 liter gasser in its powerband a little better, or even when cruising down the freeway on flatground.
My point, don't expect much seat of the pants from the gear swap. The 6.0L gasser is a great engine, but its no big block, and its no turbo diesel. If hill climbing quickly tickles your fancy, try out a new diesel. In reality, a 32 Fountain, or a old heavy 30FT cat, is a lot of boat for a half ton truck with a small gas engine. The truck is better suited to a 24ft single engine boat. |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 3856049)
I think it all depends on the powerband while at highway speeds. Personally, I don't see going from a 3.73 to a 4.10 making much of a difference accelerating up a incline at 25-35mph. Now, holding a steady speed of 65mph up a incline, the 4.10's might keep the little 6.0 liter gasser in its powerband a little better, or even when cruising down the freeway on flatground.
My point, don't expect much seat of the pants from the gear swap. The 6.0L gasser is a great engine, but its no big block, and its no turbo diesel. If hill climbing quickly tickles your fancy, try out a new diesel. In reality, a 32 Fountain, or a old heavy 30FT cat, is a lot of boat for a half ton truck with a small gas engine. The truck is better suited to a 24ft single engine boat. |
If you do end up regearing, I would skip the 4.10's and jump straight to the 4.56's. 3.73 to 4.10 isn't much of a difference. I have noticed that the deeper gears get better mileage all around in most cases, since the engine stays in its powerband and doesn't lug as much. The lone exception being (flat, non hilly) interstate travel at over 75MPH.
That being said, Diesel is definately the way to go, or even a newer gasser with the 6 speed trans and 4.10's, HUGE improvement. If you're shopping, look around Presidents day, big sales around that time, and Chevy is going to be trying to move all of the '13's in anticipation of the new body style being released here shortly. Last time they changed styles, in 07, I was able to save over 10 grand on an 07 1500 Classic. The savings on the HD's at the time was closer to 12 or 15K. I could have driven off the lot in a crew cab shortbed duramax K2500 for 29K. By the time you regear, and reprogram for the new gears, you are going to be closer to $2000, if not over. Most places charge closer to a grand to regear the front IFS differential alone. If you just need some more grunt, try a good tune (EFI live with dyno tune, or trifecta, etc, not just a handheld) you should notice a world of difference. |
Originally Posted by prostock85
(Post 3855674)
I'm only keeping the truck until sept/oct which I'll then get a diesel. Thanks for the advice.
P.S. I would be doing all my own work, so labor costs are n/a If the bogging is just unbareable, then bite the bullet sooner and enjoy pulling for an extra season in the new Dmax :cool: |
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