Really I needed information on what rear to pick.

Unfortunately a 3/4 ton truck simply won't work for my work needs.

Yep I hear ya...apologies for the derailment

Right and I said it loses almost everytime there are going to be some instances where you can make the math work, ive owned two diesels and couldnt, in your instance where diesel is the same price and you bought the truck for the same price as a comparable half ton then it makes sense ill concede that you are probably right. But in the states diesel is always 30 cents more higher, at that point you can never get the math to work just not possible when comparing like aged trucks and trim levels.


Right it is getting off track.

But the OP get the 3.73 gears and max tow thats all you need.

Diesel has actually been cheaper than gas several times this summer in Central IL.

If I were to buy another F-150 I would opt for the max tow. I believe I opted not to get it when I spec'd out my '10 FX-4 because of the mirrors. Which was stupid...

That's a whole other kettle of fish, I'm no expert ( this just in) but how is diesel more expensive than gas to produce, as I understood it diesel is less refined sooo in theory shouldn't it always be less?

Crazy that it's. 30 cents more down there as well.

And one last thing, I realize it's nothing new but how can the prices be jacked up like that and always before a long weekend

Its BS what it is. Im no expert either but refining is kind of like distilling spirts. They heat and do whatever and the oil goes up a tower at certain points they pull off different kinds of fuel, and diesel comes before gasoline, which means it takes less energy/labor/etc to produce it. Personally its priced the way it is because of supply and demand, they know our trucks and trains run off of it and we need it, we have no other choice.

A big reason for the high prices is simple...demand. India and China are sucking it down like crazy.

Well it's settled: Bought a 13 XLT Super Screw with the Max Tow. Looks great. Somehow found everything I wanted. Mirrors are awesome, despite the fact they don't fold, I'm surprised dealers don't stock these.

Congrats!

Glad to hear you found one! Good luck with it, and let us know how it does with your boat. ;)

Didn't find anyone who was pulling with 3.55s, so I figured better safe than sorry. Read some articles that they did pretty well but then I saw someone pulling a camper last weekend with an FX4 3.55. He had extensions clipped to his mirrors...figured that guy probably wishes he bought a max tow.

I definitely will update the thread when I get my boat out of the shop. It's in a damn hilly part of Austin so I'll know pretty darn quick how she does! Might be a couple months though.

Mirrors should fold on the max tow, you might not have the powered option, but they should mannually, and they also manually pull out so they stick out further. At least thats how it is on my 11 XLT max tow. Most mirrors these days are break away(fold away)

Congrats Capt!! Just a weekend sooner and we could have tested on the Formula. Even though it is shorter in length and short a few pounds, would have been a nice trial run.

Even better for the 2013s. The mirrors on the Max Tow package are now power fold and power sliding. Just like the F250s. This is the main reason I held out for the 13 and did a special order.

Buck

Congrats!!!! I think you will be very happy. I'm in the middle of getting a new one myself and decided on the 5.0. To me it is just not worth the extra dough for the ECO. Both engines are great!! I'm pissed I can't get ambient light though in a Lariat. On my 10 I went and bought the whole damn platinum center console and the Ford accessory ambient light and had it put in here at the dealership.

It appears you are right! They were just a bit hard to fold being new.

Unfortunately they are not power though unless I'm missing something. Maybe only the higher end trim models get the power on the Max Tows.

Interesting. My truck is a loaded FX4 and mine our power fold and power slide. I was thinking they were all power regardless of package. Maybe I'm wrong.

Buck

I wish you were right more than wrong but I'm pretty sure mine are manual.

Here's the pics of the new ride:

http://www.austinboatforums.com/cgi-...1378571327/0#0

Dammit. Hate that for ya.

Congrats on the truck though. Let us know how she works out for you.

Buck

power mirrors were part of a convience package or something as I recall, getting the mirrors does not automatically mean they are powered.

Ill be honest with you, I thought about getting powered mirrors but it was in a bundled package and wasnt spending more money, for as many time as I need to fold them in and out, it doesnt really matter

Just wanted to chime in. From first hand experience with towing with my f150 I can vouch that you can tow your 32 sensation easily with the ecoboost max tow. I have a 2011 fx4 5.0 ( 5.0 is not available in max to) with 3.73 rear. I towed an 8,000 lbs trailer from new jersey to Baltimore md last year with zero issues at all. The trailer sway control on the ford is also the most advanced of all the 1/2 ton trucks so when you are on the open road you truly will have to look to make sure your trailer is still there. This is my first hand experience and I hope it helps. Also the 1/2 ton trucks have come such a long way in the last 5-8 years. The f150 max tow I believe is over 3,000 lb pay load. That is very good for a 1/2 ton truck. I think you will love yours as much as I love mine !

Sorry this is after the fact, but I'm just reading this thread now for the first time. Congrats on your new F150 Eco. You will love it. I am, 2+yrs, in an '11 F150 Eco 4x4 crew 6ft bed 355 rear truck. I tow a Formula 272SR1 at 5750lb dry add 800+lbs of fuel, a couple hundred lbs of gear and a 1700+lbs steel tri-axle. North of 8000lbs and the truck effortlessly tows. I came from an F250 7.3 diesel 4x4 crew single rear wheel and there is no mistaking that my Eco truck is definately a half ton in the suspension department but as far as power, its up to the job, in fact, I enjoy towing with it. I read somewhere on here where someone said it could use another leaf, and I agree it would help it to not feel so much like a half ton when towing, but it is and I knew that when I bought (leased) it. So, in my experience with this truck, my old truck and towing a similar load to yours, I think you will be fine regardless of the 373/355 optioned rear. Enjoy your new truck, its sharp!

Thanks bud! Looking forward to my first tow with it. So far the gas mileage is way far off of advertised. I do 70% highway driving and my average is 15 MPG calculated. It's brand new so hopefully she'll loosen up some after the first oil change. That said, I really like the truck and no regrets so far.

my mileage suffered for the first 5,000 miles or so - i have put 28,000 miles on mine in the last 9 months and i get an average of 17.8 for all miles driven highway and around town, i have the max tow with 3.73 rear end.

Ford is having serious issues with the Eco motor. Stick with the v8 if it ain't too late.

[QUOTE=beefmalone;4004641]Ford is having serious issues with the Eco motor. Stick with the v8 if it ain't too late.[/QUOT

You have data to support his. 25k miles on mine runs like a top. Know 3 other guys with them and no issues. The issue you are probably reffering to is lack of power due to water in the watercooler, which has yet to be proven to affect a large amount of truck.

34k on mine, no issues. I've also been told that on EB's made after May 2012, the issue has been resolved.

As for mileage, you will find the seewt spots if you monitor the real time mileage gauge. Mine seems to be the worst at 80, but is much better at 78 and/or 82...The best is speeds between 60-70 on the Hwy. Mid 60's will put the mileage into the 20's all day. (Mine is an FX4, 3.73 rear)

Good luck with the new ride!

I am noticing that having the AC on will drop the MPG around 1 MPG. Either that, or the intercooler really doesn't like 85+ degree weather.

thats typical with any vehicle with AC on or close to it. Its tru that AC sucks gas, but its been proven having your windows down sucks even more gas.

If you havent yet get the K&N drop in mine was good for 1.5ish MPGs, buddies did the same

I haven't done that yet, I'll look in to it!

Certainly AC does drag but this engine seems to drop MPG much more than my V8 vehicles.

I wanted to ask where the gentleman heard ecoboost was giving ford lots of problems? They sell 50,000+ f150's a month and majority are ecoboost so if they have a couple dozen trucks that have issues that's actually equivalent to almost zero issues at all.

Just got my Sunsation Dominator back from the shop and pulled it for the first time with my new EcoBoost Max Tow. I gotta say, I couldn't be happier with going for the EcoBoost. Plenty of power for the big hills coming back from Full Throttle Marine and I never felt like the boat was pushing the truck around on big turns.

Stopping power is very good as well. Enough so that I thought my brakes were working on the trailer. Took it right to Discount Tire for new tires, as soon as the tires were off I saw my brake lines hanging. Apparently they broke loose and judging from the rust on the discs...they have been inactive for a loooong time. But the truck handled it just fine. I guess my EoH isn't an upgrade anymore and now a necessity.

Very glad I didn't go with an F-250 or 2500. The EcoBoost is a great ride for every day work and handles the boat perfectly. All while getting 12 MPG from Spicewood, TX with all the hills. I imagine the ride to Kemah, TX for the Texas Outlaw Challenge should do easily more than 12.

Pics:

http://www.austinboatforums.com/cgi-...1392486424/0#2

My preference is the max tow.

After having towed my 7500 pound boat trailer combo in both a 355 truck and a max tow truck I'd stick with the max tow truck and eat the few MPG in favor of the power.

I could get 21.5 easily at 65-70, the max tow truck was hard pressed to break 19.



An ecoboost trip in 105 heat combined with hills and Max Tow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bwK01ljZnc

Uncle Dave

I've never even been close to 19 MPG with my Max Tow...mine seems to hang around 16. All the speed limits around here have you driving between 70-85 and I imagine that's a big part of it. I bet if I lived somewhere like Colorado, where I grew up, where all the speed limits are 55 that it would be getting much better mileage.

I can get 19 in that white truck in the video at 65 -70 what I call "in town" freeway, but its right lane grandpa soft foot tricks that get it and at the first whiff of hills it drops.

On the I5 at 75-85 it plummets to 15-17.

UD

I wouldn't buy an Ecoboost if Ford gave me the money to purchase it. There are numerous issues with this motor and borderline class action law suits coming Fords way. I would be stay away, stay far away. I can tell you two local dealerships to me that have put two new motors each in an F150 within the last 6months. Do a search, and you'll see the major issues on these trucks......

http://www.f150forum.com/f38/ford-f-...issues-157704/

http://www.f150forum.com/f70/class-a...oblems-153403/

I don't care about your opinion about EcoBoost...I do really want to see a bunch of pictures of your new Sunny though. :) I bet she screams with those new engines. Congrats on the new boat.

Real nice set up Capt!! Congrats on the 383 build.

Yes. It flat out boogies! I do not have the ability to post pictures on here. I'll work on something though.

But seriously, be careful with those Ecoboosts! :)