2500 Avalanche/GM product Leveling kit
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I've been through your post. That is a lot of the reason I went with the Avalanche 2500.
I am kind of surprised with the mileage I have seen. On my trip home 176 miles; 112 miles at ~60 mph Highways and 64 miles at 72 mph Expressway = 16.07 mpg and the last 209 miles daily driving, city, highway and towing the Scarab 30 miles = 12.77 mpg. I do drive with a light foot. I did see 9.97 mpg with 143 miles city and little highway driving, expected. This is all hand calculations.
I am kind of surprised with the mileage I have seen. On my trip home 176 miles; 112 miles at ~60 mph Highways and 64 miles at 72 mph Expressway = 16.07 mpg and the last 209 miles daily driving, city, highway and towing the Scarab 30 miles = 12.77 mpg. I do drive with a light foot. I did see 9.97 mpg with 143 miles city and little highway driving, expected. This is all hand calculations.
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I had a Avalanche 2500. I recommend "keys" for the front to level. Cranking the torsion rides hard. I have aluminum spacers. I really didn't notice much difference with them on. I had 137k on mine. I did a Hypettech tuner and it really helped performance, gave me another 500 rpms on the 8.1 and you need it when towing.
I also replaced the shocks with new Bilsteins at 110k and wow- really helped.
I also replaced the shocks with new Bilsteins at 110k and wow- really helped.
I have done multiple lifts on torsion bar trucks, a true lift the only correct way to go up on that style suspension. A knuckle type lift is the only way to go.
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If your towing a boat then I highly recommenf the Firestone Air Bags.
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I thought the cranked torsion bars rode worse than a truck with keys until I put my first set in and understood how they worked.
The one thing you have to be careful about is a lot of people that put keys in, will then crank them to achieve even more lift. Best case scenario, the ride suffers. Worst case scenario, stripped out axles and failing shocks.
As far as MPG, I have a 2500HD. I think the Avalanches are capable of better MPG due to the different tranmissions. That being said, I've never hit 13 mpg with my truck in 4 years of ownership.
The one thing you have to be careful about is a lot of people that put keys in, will then crank them to achieve even more lift. Best case scenario, the ride suffers. Worst case scenario, stripped out axles and failing shocks.
As far as MPG, I have a 2500HD. I think the Avalanches are capable of better MPG due to the different tranmissions. That being said, I've never hit 13 mpg with my truck in 4 years of ownership.
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Cranked torsion bars and/or keys will make your front end ride rough. If you want to do it right and keep the factory ride then this is what you need. Replacing the shocks and upper control arms will keep everything as close to factory but with the added ride height.
http://www.cognitomotorsports.com/co...ocks-1319.html
http://www.cognitomotorsports.com/co...ocks-1319.html
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I have the 4.10 gears as well. I can pull 16-17 mpg easily up to 60 mph. Above that it tanks with the gears. 65+ mph highway is 11-12 unloaded and 10-11 pulling. I averaged 10.4 pulling to Kentucky and back. Not too bad really. Weight has almost no bearing on MPG with mine, but holy cow does wind resistance of whatever you are pulling or if there is a head wind.
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From: Between A Womans Leggs in IL
There is absolutely no difference in cranking the torsion bars vs different keys. The only time you need keys is when there is no adjustment left in the adjuster bolts. What is done in either case is an rotational adjustment...there is no loading the keys any differently. No matter if keys or adjusted or replaced with offset hex keys...if it goes up in front the truck will need alignment. And really, going up an 1" is about as much as you want to go as the tie rod ends will be pushing on the Pitman and idler arms at off angles which will prematurely wear them out. Also if longer shocks are not put on they stockers will top out and self destruct.
I have done multiple lifts on torsion bar trucks, a true lift the only correct way to go up on that style suspension. A knuckle type lift is the only way to go.
I have done multiple lifts on torsion bar trucks, a true lift the only correct way to go up on that style suspension. A knuckle type lift is the only way to go.
kk tortion bars my suburban rides like ****...put the keys in and it rides like a caddy now..
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THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CRANKING THE TORSION BARS OR INSTALLING DIFFERENT HEX KEYS. EITHER WAY YOU ARE CHANGING THE POSITION OF THE TORSION BAR. THIS IS SO BASIC. My guess is you installed new shocks with the keys that give it more drop out....either way it's a ****ty way to lift a truck. I'm done here.


