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A lot of ships run ocean crossings on heavy oil. They swap to diesel for close quarters maneuvering. There are some diesel electrics out there but I wouldn’t say many in big cargo ships.

The navy uses a lot of steam. Nuclear power are steam driven vessels.

Tesla is supported by the government. They don’t make a profit on their own. Subsidized like crazy.
https://www.investors.com/politics/e...ubsidizing-it/

much like wind farms I think this is a fad/trend at least with current technology. As there are many other environmental impacts created other than vehicle emissions.

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Originally Posted by IGetWet (Post 4663612)

The point of electric vehicles is to get away for gasoline and being oil dependent as well as reduce emissions. Trains and ships use electric motors for the torque, not to be fuel efficient. If we still have a diesel that requires fuel as well as DEF what’s the point with the batteries? Diesels nowadays can move more than the frame, drivetrain of the truck and brakes can handle anyways.

If you could have similar performance in your truck, using half the fuel, wouldn't that be attractive? The batteries in my example are to supplement the smaller diesel engine when it's really needed, like accellorating up a hill, starting from a stop, passing. Used much like Porsche uses their hibred batteries to gain an extra few hundred horses when needed. Most of the time we don't use anywhere near max output of our engines in our pickups.

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Originally Posted by Crude Intentions (Post 4663672)

My ship experience is limit to cruise ships, where some of the time I'm successful in getting the Chief Engineer to provide a quick engine room tour. The most recent one 5 years ago the ship used 2 big diesel engines to power electric generators, and had a third turbine engine which he never used. Said getting it was a mistake. A neighbor is a retired Chief Engineer from the Merchant Marine; next time I visit with him I'll ask his experience on cargo ships.

As far your comments about Tesla and wind farms, we're in agreement. Like that you sited IBD, that's a great publication.

This is interesting, an electric pickup from MI, expected to come out in a year or two: https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/vide...cid=spartanntp

I wonder what it can tow for how far. With those looks robo cop might be the only one buying one.

Very interested to see how the new Ram Etorque system works out. I believe it is a step in the right direction to utilize the torque of an electric motor paired with the conventional engine options. After gear reduction it adds 130 ft lbs and you can get it on the hemi, not just the v6. Does anyone on the forum have one? Interested to see how they work in real world driving situations.

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Originally Posted by Crude Intentions (Post 4663672)

All electric car manufacturers have the same subsidies available up until they manufacture 200,000 units I believe

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Originally Posted by Chart (Post 4664440)

This is interesting, an electric pickup from MI, expected to come out in a year or two: https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/vide...cid=spartanntp

This one is already built, perfect vehicle for the property owner to patrol

perfect vehicle for the property owner to patrol

Ford is smarter than GM!

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Originally Posted by sprsptr (Post 4663353)

You may be right. If Ford has any sense, they will not mirror GM's ruthless attitude.

It seems that Ford has made a shift in plans! On Tuesday, they announced that they cancelled a 1.6 billion investment in a new plant in Mexico. Ford has instead chosen to invest 700 million to update a Michigan facility. They are augmenting this with 700 new jobs. BRAVO!

What is the average salary of a UAW worker at a GM plant? What are the benefits and retirement package? Just generalizations please.

Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...s/viewpost.gif
They are putting all their eggs in 2 baskets. Chevy is going to release the newly re-designed trucks and the new mid-engine Corvette and be back on top by 2021.

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Originally Posted by bossmjb (Post 4661684)

You're an idiot if this is what you think! What percentage of people buy brand new corvettes?? Maybe 3% if you are lucky!! We are heading for another recession if people do not remove their heads from their a$$. Invest in what the market and people want stop jamming electrification up our ASS$ES we are not all a bunch of tree hugging Hippie’s, what about the rural areas? what about the American farmers, truckers?? Mess around with the u.s auto market and watch the economy crumble again!!!

Sorry for the rant! This $hit pisses me off!

Hell no, it was complete sarcasm. On top of it the front of the new truck looks like a cardboard box decorated by a 5 year old. I understand they have price constraints but the new designs look horrible.

The last election clearly demonstrated that the country doesnt give a chit about the rural areas. But the rural areas had something to say about that buy coming out in force and electing Trump.

Chris Christie had a great quote the other day: "Look what this president has accomplished while being hounded and criticized by Democrats. Imagine what it would be like if they would actually work with us."