That's funny!

Ugly!
 

You may be right. If Ford has any sense, they will not mirror GM's ruthless attitude.

I think that is more down to how the press and politicians portray it. Ford has stated that they will be looking for 11 Billion in cuts, analysts think that will mean 25,000 lost jobs.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fo...ays-2018-12-03

Wow, that sucks!

Tesla charges the fees direct to owners account after you have used your free allowance. Don't know about the other brands.

Granted, batteries don't play much role in ships and trains, but electricity does. They just carry around their own electric power generating plant instead of depending upon the electric company. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I suspect a diesel/electric F350 could work very well for all but the heaviest users. Most of us only use a fraction of our engines most of the time, and a smaller diesel engine could charge batteries and power electric motors, and help power the truck. F350s are some of the best platforms to haul around lots of batteries. This might not work well for hot shot haulers and other heavy users, but might work well for us daily drivers of our one tons who sometimes ask them to work like a truck.

The point of electric vehicles is to get away for gasoline and being oil dependent as well as reduce emissions. Trains and ships use electric motors for the torque, not to be fuel efficient. If we still have a diesel that requires fuel as well as DEF what’s the point with the batteries? Diesels nowadays can move more than the frame, drivetrain of the truck and brakes can handle anyways.

The volts are like that, actual elec drive but gas gen if battery gets low, friend has had 2 loved them both and used to show me how little gas he ever uses(could bring up all that data thru a app on his phone. See Ford following suit as they are slashing cars out of the lineup, chysler has been quietly removing cars from its lineup as well...

If you could have similar performance in your truck, using half the fuel, wouldn't that be attractive? The batteries in my example are to supplement the smaller diesel engine when it's really needed, like accellorating up a hill, starting from a stop, passing. Used much like Porsche uses their hibred batteries to gain an extra few hundred horses when needed. Most of the time we don't use anywhere near max output of our engines in our pickups.

My ship experience is limit to cruise ships, where some of the time I'm successful in getting the Chief Engineer to provide a quick engine room tour. The most recent one 5 years ago the ship used 2 big diesel engines to power electric generators, and had a third turbine engine which he never used. Said getting it was a mistake. A neighbor is a retired Chief Engineer from the Merchant Marine; next time I visit with him I'll ask his experience on cargo ships.

As far your comments about Tesla and wind farms, we're in agreement. Like that you sited IBD, that's a great publication.

This is interesting, an electric pickup from MI, expected to come out in a year or two: https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/vide...cid=spartanntp

Very interested to see how the new Ram Etorque system works out. I believe it is a step in the right direction to utilize the torque of an electric motor paired with the conventional engine options. After gear reduction it adds 130 ft lbs and you can get it on the hemi, not just the v6. Does anyone on the forum have one? Interested to see how they work in real world driving situations.

All electric car manufacturers have the same subsidies available up until they manufacture 200,000 units I believe

This one is already built, perfect vehicle for the property owner to patrol
perfect vehicle for the property owner to patrol

Ford is smarter than GM!
 

It seems that Ford has made a shift in plans! On Tuesday, they announced that they cancelled a 1.6 billion investment in a new plant in Mexico. Ford has instead chosen to invest 700 million to update a Michigan facility. They are augmenting this with 700 new jobs. BRAVO!

What is the average salary of a UAW worker at a GM plant? What are the benefits and retirement package? Just generalizations please.

Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...s/viewpost.gif
They are putting all their eggs in 2 baskets. Chevy is going to release the newly re-designed trucks and the new mid-engine Corvette and be back on top by 2021.

Hell no, it was complete sarcasm. On top of it the front of the new truck looks like a cardboard box decorated by a 5 year old. I understand they have price constraints but the new designs look horrible.

The last election clearly demonstrated that the country doesnt give a chit about the rural areas. But the rural areas had something to say about that buy coming out in force and electing Trump.

Chris Christie had a great quote the other day: "Look what this president has accomplished while being hounded and criticized by Democrats. Imagine what it would be like if they would actually work with us."

Good Choice
 

Eric, You just want to be sure that the massaging seats are powered up! LOL

man I love them messaging seats, they the bomb