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Ryan00TJ 08-03-2018 04:45 AM

https://books.google.com/books?id=ry...20test&f=false

BUP 08-03-2018 10:03 AM

^^^^^ Thanks for the Lone Wolf article.

plavutka 08-03-2018 10:11 AM

25% slip at 77.3 mph?
(5450 rpm, 77,3 pmh, 30 pitch, 1,5:1 reduction)

Ryan00TJ 08-04-2018 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by plavutka (Post 4641623)
25% slip at 77.3 mph?
(5450 rpm, 77,3 pmh, 30 pitch, 1,5:1 reduction)

BUP, no problem.

I agree that's alot of slip. Should run 80 easily under good conditions. I believe it was 3 persons and 40gal fuel test runs. Not good for max speed/slip numbers.

4x4builder 08-08-2018 01:38 PM


4x4builder 08-08-2018 01:39 PM

My boat came with it lol let me know if it’s clear enough

Padraig 08-08-2018 01:56 PM

Thanks, good read!

Padraig

Ryan00TJ 08-08-2018 02:23 PM

Keeper for sure. Wow! $125k. Glad there's a used market out there!

Revelocity 08-09-2018 08:49 AM

Thanks for posting the Powerboat article! I don't recall another Velocity making the cover of Power Boat magazine since I started subscribing in 1994. Nice to see it again 16 years later and makes me miss the annual PB offshore boat tests that were published ever Jan - Mar. Really looked forward to receiving those magazines in the mail during the dead of winter!

SB 08-09-2018 10:37 AM

That writer is quite enthusiastic, but still a good read.

4-5footers ? Don't think so. LOL.
3.5-4psi engine compartment air psi .?Don't think so.LOL.

veloc410 08-28-2018 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan00TJ (Post 4639943)
Pulled the boat to change a leaking circulating pump. Cleaning up the hull today. Looked at the pad. 12" wide. There is a centerline on the pad clearly visible. It is not centered on the pad running surface. 6.5" to port, 5.5" to starboard. While the pad bottom itself may not be offset to the centerline of the hull, the pad itself is.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...6f3127a03d.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...6846c21b0f.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9f2f1cea1f.jpg

what?? Never would have thought??

veloc410 08-28-2018 01:44 PM

Was this your boat day 1.

veloc410 08-28-2018 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Padraig (Post 4630942)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...6ccbfc3269.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4146e3c3d5.jpg
I put the VR 1 in just before Memorial day weekend. Didn't get a chance to thourghly clean and wax as my Yukon had to go into the body shop. Poor baby sat on the lift, dirty and dull.

I pulled it out yesterday, washed,clayed,polishef and waxed it today. I am tired but happy. Will fill the gas tank and put it back im.

Padraig

How is it running??

Padraig 08-28-2018 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by veloc410 (Post 4646184)
How is it running??

Running good! How has your summer been?

Padraig

veloc410 08-28-2018 02:58 PM

It's been good . Poker run went good. Put on about 180 mi that weekend. Now just trying to get out as much as possible before it gets cooler

motuman 08-29-2018 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4632563)
watch the video. At the end of the video Mark is posting specs and speed. 75. 3 mph at 5400 rpms no way for a stock 496 HO pushing 5400 rpms , it revs limited at 5150 rpms. Kind of funny for me since I see so many 496's. Well not so much currently but in the past.

. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b635jyb4XAg

Could you remove the rev limiter via software, just for purposes of the test? That would be one way to post a bigger number, if the engine has the HP to push it.

Ryan00TJ 08-29-2018 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by motuman (Post 4646348)
Could you remove the rev limiter via software, just for purposes of the test? That would be one way to post a bigger number, if the engine has the HP to push it.

Yes, the rev limiter can be raised if you can program the Merc PCM555. Whipple Superchargers and a few others can do this. No help revving a stock 496HO anywhere over 5150 rev limit. Power falls off big/fast after. Not to mention possible valve float as valvesprings are very weak.

BUP 08-29-2018 07:39 PM

do not even bother to go over 5100 with a stock 496 HO - there is nothing there on those stock apps. Stay off the rev limiter as well. Only a couple can raise the rev limiter on a recal for PCM 555 but after the first 500 HO 496s were made even the crank is not forged just to bring that up on top of. Not any forged internals in a 496.

basically for the recals on PCM 555 most that say they can really are sending them in to the very few that can. I am looking into recaling as we speak to do it myself as well.

motuman 08-29-2018 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4646418)
do not even bother to go over 5100 with a stock 496 HO - there is nothing there on those stock apps. Stay off the rev limiter as well. Only a couple can raise the rev limiter on a recal for PCM 555 but after the first 500 HO 496s were made even the crank is not forged just to bring that up on top of. Not any forged internals in a 496.

basically for the recals on PCM 555 most that say they can really are sending them in to the very few that can. I am looking into recaling as we speak to do it myself as well.

Interesting. I wasn't suggesting raising the rev limiter for anyone, except as a possible explanation as to how they hit 75 @5400 with a stock 496 HO in the video.

So this chart showing forged crank and rods on the HO is incorrect?

Ryan00TJ 08-29-2018 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by motuman (Post 4646424)
Interesting. I wasn't suggesting raising the rev limiter for anyone, except as a possible explanation as to how they hit 75 @5400 with a stock 496 HO in the video.

So this chart showing forged crank and rods on the HO is incorrect?

Some early 2001-2002 496 HO's had the forged crankshaft until GM Powertrain - GM quit using them in lieu of GM's own new pressure rolled fillet nodular iron special 496 crank (bean counter decsion). Its nothing like an earlier GM cast iron crankshaft, much better part and nitirided too.
The forged units are a bit stronger and lighter than the cast crankshafts but both are very capable of handling 600-700HP without failures.

496 connecting rods, they are forged rods, early ones with pressed pins the later ones with full floating pins. These rods are metric length in stroke (6.683") and will not interchange with 454-502 sizes because they also have a metric diameter pin (actually measures about 1.043") which is larger than the standard BBC .990" size pin. The metric 10mm dia. rod bolts are not as strong as good ARP 7/16" rod bolts.

BUP 08-29-2018 09:11 PM

Mercruiser part numbers for all the fist engine serial number runs from day one. The mag and HO used the exact same crank part number. And in Volvo school we all went over this in 2002. I will try to find my class material and post a pic of that. Here is the Merc part numbers for HO and MAG Cranks both the same from day one - check it all out in the links below. Like I said maybe if even that 500 went out as forged cranks for the HO only but actually maybe 200 if I had to really guess really went out as forged cranks.

MerCruiser 496 Mag (H.O. Model) Block-crankshaft, Oil Pump, & Front Cover Parts

HO 496 link ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ for crank part number as shown in number 3

And the MAG crank numbers below link number 3 they are exactly the same from day one. Mag 375 hp vs HO 425. I would bet not many were forged cranks from GM period. Merc got these as long blocks and the same with Volvo - I will post my class material.

http://www.marineengine.com/parts/me...nd-front-cover

BUP 08-30-2018 06:41 PM

And here is the first and foremost the GM 496 that the race boats as well. This is GM first run brochures that came out way back for the intro of their HP3 496 that used MEFI 4 and cast cranks as well. Here is the proof in the GM 525 plus hp engines. Read the specs ---- CAST CRANK

Myself personally never seen a forged crank in a 496 ever but I have heard of TWO people swear that theirs was a forged crank. One was up here on OSO. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...a78486d2f9.jpg

BUP 08-30-2018 06:43 PM

GM HP3 specs here from the brochure I have --- its the first ones out to the public many years ago.https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0aa8948947.jpg

motuman 08-31-2018 02:47 AM

you guys are awesome!


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