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motuman 08-22-2018 04:59 PM

Am i correct in starting that while there is no wood in the VR1, there is still balsa coring in the 290sc? Thought I read that in a thread, but can't find it again.

Not a big deal if properly maintained and dry stored, so just curious.

CJSYD 08-22-2018 05:18 PM

Kenny has a 280 and a 290sc. There is another 290sc not listed that has a 525efi and the price included a new interior install as well. The 290sc with the 525 should be an 80mph boat if I'm not mistaken. Give him a call... great guy to deal with and a straight shooter as well.

Padraig 08-22-2018 05:26 PM

No wood in VR 1. Not entirely sure about the 290 but I believe there is.
Padraig

Boatally Insane 08-22-2018 06:37 PM

My '05 290sc DOES have a Balsa core.. As stated before, depends a bit on the boating you do..
My wife does NOT swim so we needed a usable restroom also, the lake we're on is a bit rough for a "sit down" boat, so needed good stand up bolsters...
Between those items we chose a 290sc... We use the cabin several times a year and it's really comfortable for nocturnal activities...

Still a work in progress but runs 99 MPH thus far... :)

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...566d8bfd8a.jpg

motuman 08-22-2018 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by CJSYD (Post 4645245)
Kenny has a 280 and a 290sc. There is another 290sc not listed that has a 525efi and the price included a new interior install as well. The 290sc with the 525 should be an 80mph boat if I'm not mistaken. Give him a call... great guy to deal with and a straight shooter as well.

I've spoken with Kenny and heard good things about him on the board.

The Velocity website has a video of a new 290sc with a 525, which claims 85 mph. The owner posted on here after delivery and reported 85 on gps, so I guess it was legit.


Amazing how well the 290sc does with relatively mild power! (by todays standards).

Padraig 08-22-2018 08:49 PM

I am a Velocity guy through and through but a 525hp 290 will not run 85. Mid to high 70s would be more like it. Not trying to stir up anything but I also don't want you to be disappointed.

Padraig

CJSYD 08-22-2018 08:54 PM

Party Pooper!

Padraig 08-22-2018 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by CJSYD (Post 4645284)
Party Pooper!

LOL I wish it was that fast with a 525....That would mean I would be 90.

Bottom line is all three are great running boats. I need to run a 290 sometime to see how it is compared to a 280 and a VR 1. I really like the cabin in the 290.

Padraig

motuman 08-22-2018 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by Padraig (Post 4645288)
LOL I wish it was that fast with a 525....That would mean I would be 90.

Bottom line is all three are great running boats. I need to run a 290 sometime to see how it is compared to a 280 and a VR 1. I really like the cabin in the 290.

Padraig

Honestly I was somewhat shocked and amazed by the number myself. But this does get into the black vs blue motor rating debate. The 496HO is rated 425 hp at the crank, whereas the 525 is rated at the prop, and closer to 540 at the prop I'm told. So we are talking about 425 hp at the crank vs, what?, almost 600 hp at the crank for the 525?

Is that enough push a 290sc to 85? I don't know. It's certainly impressive if it does, as this gentleman states in the thread.

https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...ity-290sc.html

RBeyer (in post #11 above) saw 94.8 GPS in a 280 with a modded 454 Mag @ 720 HP and 727 TQ., which we know is accurate. So back to 85 with 600 hp at the crank and the newer bottom...maybe?

RBeyer 08-22-2018 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by motuman (Post 4645293)
Honestly I was somewhat shocked and amazed by the number myself. But this does get into the black vs blue motor rating debate. The 496HO is rated 425 hp at the crank, whereas the 525 is rated at the prop, and closer to 540 at the prop I'm told. So we are talking about 425 hp at the crank vs, what?, almost 600 hp at the crank for the 525?

Is that enough push a 290sc to 85? I don't know. It's certainly impressive if it does, as this gentleman states in the thread.

https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...ity-290sc.html

RBeyer (in post #11 above) saw 94.8 GPS in a 280 with a modded 454 Mag @ 720 HP and 727 TQ., which we know is accurate. So back to 85 with 600 hp at the crank and the newer bottom...maybe?

It's about 450 lbs. heavier. I've never driven one, that said that would be really good at 600 HP. It's fairly simple math though if you get the drive ration, max rpm, and prop size. Doing the math it should be really low slip with those props it's fairly accurate.


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