Originally Posted by epeek

Is that because the 1 Cig you bought & sold,you bought used at a steal.......and your Fountain you purchased new?
And if thats true doesn't that mean someone got beat
up pretty bad on that Cig ?

Originally Posted by GLH

but I would rather be faster in 5-6 footers, and I have yet to see a Fountain pass me in that.

Originally Posted by pm203

You are right Lucky Jr. I have had numerous boats with cabins and never slept in them. I would rather tie up at a hotel and sleep there. Cabins seem to become just another storage compartment. I chose the Gladiator because of it,s hot looks and it,s sit-down configuration. As Philly says " it looks like a little raceboat".It,s like driving a Ferrari Spyder on the water!

Originally Posted by GLH

I have made money on all Cigarettes I have owned.

I have lost money on the Fountain I have owned.

Originally Posted by GLH

I would venture there are a lot more steals on Fountains.

Actually I think I made great deals buying the two Cigs I have owned and made money on. I don't think that the streak will continue on the 42 but I am not planning on selling in a while.

The specific problems with Fountain are that the Factory lowers their new boat selling price year after year to ensure volume and kills the re-sale market. I have been told that from a bunch of dealers and have observed it. Take a new 35 Exec. from 2002 to 2004 new prices went down $30k the poor saps that bought a 2002 in July 2002, when the 2004 came out in August 03, 13 months later is out a solid $50k if not more in 12-18 months.
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I didnt start this thread to talk about Fountain in general.
You are the one who broght up Fountain in your first post,
by making a generalized statment on how you lost money
on a Fountain purchased new in comparison to Cigarettes
you bought used. The statement was misleading,because
you never stated those circumstances. The statement that
Fountain continually lowers their prices is simply not true.
You have made that comment more than once. The truth
is that in 03 they introduced the Executioner at a reduced
price over the earlier lightnings as a line to get more
people into their boats at an affordible price when the
boating industry was starting to tank. They have never
lower the price on any of their other boats and the EX
has continued to climb in price over the years.

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My logic might be warped but today if I got out of my 42 I would bet I would not loose more than the money I have made on the other two. That would make 4 years of boating in Cigarettes with no depriciation, I hope your having as much luck with your Fountains.

In the end I would rather have one of three Cigarettes on our lake than one of the 20 Fountains. Those Fountain sure are fast in 2 footers days also... but I would rather be faster in 5-6 footers, and I have yet to see a Fountain pass me in that.

Originally Posted by epeek

In response to your zero depreciation on Cigs, lets run the
numbers. You bought your cafe at a very good price. Doesnt
that mean that SOMEONE lost alot of money,It just wasnt you.
The other Cig your talkin about was an old 20 ft, wasnt it?
If I'm right,that doesnt even count because it was under 10k.
Forgive me if I'm wrong on that one. Last but not least, In
real dollars I think the really expensive boats like Cig,O.l
and others, you loose more money if the boat was purchased
new. Maybe not in percentages,but in real dollars. For
example; If I purchase a new Donzi for 250 K and sell 3
years later for 150K, I lost 100k. If I buy Cig for 500k
and sell it 3 years later for 350k I lost 150K. You smell
the cake I'm bakin??? I may be way off base. Show me
I'm wrong. Again awesome boats,I'd love to own one.
But the high resale statement gets thrown around here all
the time. Just wondering if its for real. I'd love to hear
from some guys who bought brand new Cigs. Whats
your "for real" experience.