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Latitude Powerboats 02-13-2007 01:08 PM

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Whether it was operator error or hull failure is really very difficult to determine and really the finger pointing can go on forever. What we wanted to ensure was that if something like this were to ever happen with one of the boats we built we could rest assure that it could not be hull failure...that we covered all our bases...that we did everything in our power to make the hull as strong as it could possibly be.

Mentalpause 02-13-2007 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Semper Fi (Post 2025365)
That is a REDICULOUS statement. Are you going to "guarantee" that the boat will never come apart? It's impossible to do that. Mother nature has the upper hand.

I agree. That 33 PP was a rock solid boat. Most of us would have thought it would take some rediculous conditions for it to come apart.

JROMY 02-13-2007 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Latitude Powerboats (Post 2025354)
The 33' Powerplay does have full length stringers, whether production or raceboat. And normally on a full race version there were bulk heads from the hull to the deck ever x amount of feet. The hull and deck was completely bonded and encapsulated. I am the Sales Manager for Latitude Powerboats. We currently have the mold for the 33' Powerplay and are producing a 33' open fish and can assure you what happened in the past will not happen again.

And can you enlighten us as to what exactly "happened in the past" ? You and Maryland Mark seem to be about the only ones who have this figured out...:rolleyes:

marylandmark 02-13-2007 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by JROMY (Post 2025604)
And can you enlighten us as to what exactly "happened in the past" ? You and Maryland Mark seem to be about the only ones who have this figured out...:rolleyes:

I am 180 degrees from having it figured out- hence my questions.

I know there are 2 high profile accidents with 5 boaters no longer with us and it appears nobody can come up with any reason why. Did they hit bottom? Would there be sediment embedded in the hull pieces found? Would part of the hull be embedded in the ocean floor? I DON'T know which is why I am asking...

I am the only one confused when the company that leased the molds says "what happened in the past will not happen again"? The company that leased the molds it seems is taking responsibility for what you are saying was driver error???

Latitude Powerboats 02-13-2007 08:32 PM

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Just relax, guys. You are reading too much into everything I am saying. There is no doubt that what has occurred in the past concerned us. An event like this naturally does that to you. Keep in mind that we did not build these boats so there is no way for us to ensure quality control. But now we have the molds and can assure you that if an accident of this magnitude were to ever happen again it could definitely not be hull failure. How can I guarantee that... because we can now ensure that every vessel is constructed in the best possible fashion, something we could not do before.

JROMY 02-13-2007 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by Latitude Powerboats (Post 2025882)
....But now we have the molds and can assure you that if an accident of this magnitude were to ever happen again it could definitely not be hull failure. How can I guarantee that... because we can now ensure that every vessel is constructed in the best possible fashion, something we could not do before.

I know that I should really drop this...but before I do, I challenge you to find any KNOWLEDGEABLE boat experts that really feel that Dan Weinstein built a boat that was susceptible to "hull failure" and was not built in the "best possible fashion". You won't. If you honestly don't know how Dan built his boats, fair enough. In that case, I hope that your boats are built to his standards (but certainly not to his business ethics). I would caution you however, against blatant statements like you can "guarantee against hull failure" because as many others on this site have mentioned, you can't always guarantee what mother nature may throw at you, and that is the one thing that can end up biting any of us in the end, no matter how strong a boat is, or how skillful we think our driving skills are.

bob 02-13-2007 10:02 PM

Honestly, aren't these types of conversations pointless without having first hand knowledge of what this hull was subjected to since being built?

CAP071 02-14-2007 08:16 AM

you can't always guarantee what mother nature may throw at you, and that is the one thing that can end up biting any of us in the end, no matter how strong a boat is, or how skillful we think our driving skills are.

BINGO!

cbeastwood 02-14-2007 08:21 AM

It's all speculation until the final accident report is released.

To state that you will never have a hull-related failure is ludicrous.

Honor the deceased by letting them rest in peace. What's done is done.

marylandmark 02-14-2007 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by cbeastwood (Post 2026191)
It's all speculation until the final accident report is released.

That is exactly what I am looking for- can someone direct me to the "official cause" - not your opinion- of the Mr.K tragedy? This is all I can find and in the Marco Island that is what the papers are saying as well. Media- clueless I agree, however where are the "official causes" listed after an investigation?

http://www.rbbi.com/folders/acc/race.htm

"after his 33-foot boat slammed into a wave and broke apart"


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