My Bad....I thought I read it somewhere......oughta slow down on the Captain and Cokes huh ?:rolleyes:


NOT!!!:drink: :evilb:

Do you consider the 28 Active Thunder and the 29 Sea Ray to be competitive offerings?

The 28 Active Thunder comes with more standard/upgraded features than the 28 Sunsation, and its a bigger boat. Hence, the price difference. Same thing goes for the 32SS vs. the 33AT.

AT is going to remain factory direct for the most part, for the time being. It leaves out the middle man (dealer & markup), and gives you direct access to the factory. There are a couple of factory reps like myself that can help you into an AT.

You tellem' Sydwayz!

I was lucky enough to visit the factory January of 2005. the guys let me and the wife crawl a round in a 37 they were rigging. All I can say is WOW!! I was impressed with every aspect of the boat.

My next rig will be a 37 if I can figure out a way to afford it. The guys stopped what they were doing to talk with us and say hi.

I also road in Thunder Roys 37 back in Houston on Clear Lake when he first got it!! What a ride!!!


I firmyl beleive you pay for what you get!:evilb:

And of course,,,,this is just my 02.!!

I thought the difference in a Challenger hull and an A.T. was about $100K...he!he!!he!he!:D :D :D
In reality the bottoms are all great..it's from the chine up and whats inside that makes a BIG difference.
I'm very pro Harry ..always have been and always will be!

1. I listed Sea Ray and Sunsation because they are possible purchase choices for me, and I wouldn't be posting in here if I did not like A/T. I will put this as simply as I can, If A/T would like my business then they need to update their hull to match the rest of the fleet. simple enough I think. I personally think a roomy 29' stepped hull single engine A/T would be the boat I am lookin for.

2. No comment on the pricing.

Steps alone should not make a boat. If that is what you are only basing your purchase on then you obviously need to look somewhere else. I was one of the unfortunate buyers to own a single step Top Gun. Guess What, worst riding boat I owned and it was my first step bottom boat. I went back to a true V, 25 Degree deadrise 42 Sonic. Great boat for what it was, at that time. Next in line was my 37 AVH, excellent ride compared to the Top Gun as well as the Sonic. It is all on how the bottom was designed for that specific boat and what you are looking for. My 43 Nortech has 2 very small steps, might as well almost call it a V bottom, but I like the way this boat rides, especially in the ruff stuff, and it works for me. Good Luck with your desicion. Jeff

Steps have their pros and cons. I have heard of alot of step boats spinning out at low speeds due to the step - especially sunsation. Its simple physics - the steps help to loosen up the back end of a boat and give it more lift for higher speeds. But there are not any steps in the front (actually I have seen one boat company start to do this) so when you turn the front grips the water tighter than the back (because of the steps) which can cause a boat to spin out even at low speeds. Granted all this can be avoided with a good driver, but I'm no expert and even experts make mistakes. At first I thought the steps where sweat and I wanted them - know I could care less. All I really care about is rough water ability and the safety of my passengers.

There is a thread somewhere on OSO explaining the difference in non stepped, single stepped and multi stepped hulls.

The DDC hull that AT uses does not spin out at any speed. As far as rough water ride, I'll take you for a spin on the 33 in some 8 to 10's at 45 mph and you can be the judge. :D

I had a beer with a guy once that told me a story about steps and dart boards and if I remember there was something about shingles also. Can anyone guess who it was? I lmao:evilb:

Hmmm, Miller Lite?