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Jupiter Sunsation 09-21-2009 08:21 PM

Coffin dash..... actually had to go look at pics and yep it looks like a coffin lining although I didn't think that until it was pointed out by Jeff.:drink:

Boat is the best bang for the buck on the market today, wish I had the 200K to build one...

activemike 09-21-2009 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2957602)
You only need a padded dash if you buy a boat that you expect to throw you into it.

well said, i like my dash at WOT, can see everything perfect.

customryder 09-21-2009 10:35 PM

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never had any troubles reading gauges.. Just feel it would give the boat a cleaner more thought out look..

maybe I will have the first...

Just thinking out loud.. by all means not trying to be critical, just an idea.

Wildman_grafix 09-21-2009 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by customryder (Post 2957707)
never had any troubles reading gauges.. Just feel it would give the boat a cleaner more thought out look..

maybe I will have the first...

Just thinking out loud.. by all means not trying to be critical, just an idea.

I always wondered, isn't it hard to see the port side gauges?
Not being a smart ass here.

chuckbeecher 09-21-2009 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 2957723)
I always wondered, isn't it hard to see the port side gauges?
Not being a smart ass here.

Those are for the passengers benefit and to keep them from asking so many STUPID DAMN questions.
and those sticks things are for the passengers cap to hang on and not blow off.

chuckbeecher 09-21-2009 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2957272)
Direct answer to your question, yes it is the boost. You can play with pulleys and fueling and pressures all day long on almost ANY of the supercharger systems.




While the 525EFI and the 600SCi can be very close in output on a cool crisp, non-humid October day, the 600SCi IS a superior engine. Virtually, the only difference between the 600SCi and 700SCi (from the flywheel forward) is computer changes, cooling changes & supercharger tweaking.

The 600SCi has torque management which saves the B1XR drive. The 525EFI does not have this torque managment, and the 700SCi does not worry about it as much since it has the NXT drive.

(The torque management programming in the computer only pours on enough torque to get the boat on plane. This keeps you from slamming all the available torque into the gears of the B1XR and ripping them to pieces. When you are up in the RPM band, the engine is unrestricted. The Whipple/aftermarket setups to not have this capability. This is also the same capability that GM used in their trucks with the 496/8.1L gas engine. When they mated the 8.1L with the ZF 6spd. manual and Allison 5spd automatic transmissions in the 2500/3500-HD trucks, the 8.1L was un-restricted in 0mph+ acceleration. When they mated the 8.1L with the M32/4L80E 4spd Auto. transmission in the 2500 Avalanche/2500 Suburban, they managed the torque output (roughly 70%) so as to not rip the transmission or other driveline parts out when accelerating from a dead stop. Once the truck is moving & up shifting, the torque is released.)


Hence, JeffC per your specific wants out of the boat...

My recommendation would be to go with the 600SCi/B1XR package. It is proven to be at least 5-6mph faster than a comparably equipped 525EFI/B1XR in the 37 Active Thunder application.


UNLESS, you want to go with the 725 Ilmor/Indy drive package. Then we are into a whole new ballgame & AT is eager step up the plate.

"proven to be at least 5-6mph faster than a comparably equipped 525EFI/B1XR in the 37 Active Thunder application"
so how many 600 A.T.s have been built besides Geralds staggered?

laszlo01 09-22-2009 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by activemike (Post 2957637)
well said, i like my dash at WOT, can see everything perfect.

Ditto, all right in front of you, dont change a thing, if it aint broke dont fix it. lol

slboatdrinks 09-22-2009 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by customryder (Post 2957707)
never had any troubles reading gauges.. Just feel it would give the boat a cleaner more thought out look..

maybe I will have the first...

Just thinking out loud.. by all means not trying to be critical, just an idea.

Looks more like a carnival ride than a dash, but that's just my opinion.

Love my dash.

Jassman 09-22-2009 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2957602)
You only need a padded dash if you buy a boat that you expect to throw you into it.

That's the latest trend.. Look at the 40 roadster from Nor-Tech or the 41 and 44 V from OL. It is a nice way to soften some of the fiberglass, and bring some of the car influences into the boating market. Material design on the seats are another good example of automotive influences..like Bently pleats as an example. I personally like it... look for it more in the near future from the major players in the boating market. Jeff

Jassman 09-22-2009 07:59 AM

as to the dash comments... theirs a seat for every boater. Personally, my favorite dash is the new 44 OL. Here's why... I like the side by side bolsters.. but only in a boat that has 6' plus headroom when walking down in. Now.. this is impossible to have in a 37' boat without a good looking deck like the A.T. has. So I would opt for separate bolsters ... but take a look what OL did. The cabin door is off center, allowing for another strategically bank of placed gauges that compliment the look by not only different materials and in color, but also in function. The dash is the perfect size to accompany all the gauges, doesn't looked squashed like the 37, and can be painted or catered to the individual.

Here's the deal.. We want what we want.. but are we willing to pay for it. No other boat co. offers what AT does for the coin. For 200k, limited time only (2002-2003 price's) recession prices to keep workers going, will you find a better built, better riding V-hull. The latest renderings from the factory are vastly improved from the earlier versions.. I was impressed in 03 when I took delivery of Radio Active, and now with more knowledge and boating experience in hand.... what has come out of the factory is a superior product for the same price.. Good Luck guys.

Wildman_grafix 09-22-2009 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by chuckbeecher (Post 2957736)
Those are for the passengers benefit and to keep them from asking so many STUPID DAMN questions.
and those sticks things are for the passengers cap to hang on and not blow off.

:lolhit:


I like the room the dash layout has for a large GPS.

BTW

Any pictures of the boat with staggered motors? How does it run?

JeffC 09-22-2009 09:15 AM

Maybe yall can shed a little light on this for me. I love the big dash for electronics and gauges but dont know if i like the steering wheel not being center the driver seat. I understand that it fits your left hand better. But what about when you have both hands on the wheel. You dont always have your hands on the throttles.

I am going to be down there thursday so i am going to find out how comfortable it is.

Sydwayz 09-22-2009 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by JeffC (Post 2957897)
Maybe yall can shed a little light on this for me. I love the big dash for electronics and gauges but dont know if i like the steering wheel not being center the driver seat. I understand that it fits your left hand better. But what about when you have both hands on the wheel. You dont always have your hands on the throttles.

I am going to be down there thursday so i am going to find out how comfortable it is.

It's actually very comfortable. But then again, we are used to it. The advantage is you get to use your shoulder's ball & socket joint providing more leverage than your canted/bent elbow if the wheel is straight out in front of you.

Hold your left arm straight out in front of you, make a fist and rotate your fist side to side. Your shoulder does the movement.

Now, hold your left arm straight out & cant your left elbow about 15* to the right and make the same movement with your fist. Notice how you are now using all three joints, the shoulder, the elbow, and the wrist. Move movement and more work equals more fatigue. Notice how your elbow feels heavy after a few seconds?


It's not a big deal. If you want it moved over, we can do that. You just don't want it too close to the throttle pod. The tilt wheel is also a nice feature to add. The picture of Remedy's wheel is a really strong angle and does not appear accurate. Check out the rest of the pics of the boats here in the OSO classifieds.


I know we all know how to drive here, but I'll add this as well:
Rarely do I take my right hand off the throttle. Even in smooth water straight cruising--just like a motorcycle... you don't have brakes and your throttle will often get you through an evasive maneuver as much or more so than steering input/adjustment. Additionally, if you DO have to make an extreme/sudden evasive steering maneuver you will more than likely need to adjust the throttle as well. In that n-fraction of a second it takes you to find the throttle again, you could be in big trouble; especially in the case of a catastrophic drive failure.

Gladhe8er 09-22-2009 11:16 AM

Agree with Sydwayz. Never do I take my hand off the throttle, especially in Long Island Sound!

slboatdrinks 09-22-2009 12:39 PM

Where else, but the AT forum, could you get a lesson in physiology??? :lolhit:

ActiveThunder 09-22-2009 03:49 PM

In about 20 minutes I'm going practice lifting a 12 ounce bottle with my arm straight out and then I'm going open another and move it to the right about 8", drink that one to see if it gets easier or fatigues me to the point of going home to my wife..... :drink:

TCBoss302 09-22-2009 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 2958235)
In about 20 minutes I'm going practice lifting a 12 ounce bottle with my arm straight out and then I'm going open another and move it to the right about 8", drink that one to see if it gets easier or fatigues me to the point of going home to my wife..... :drink:

:drink::drink::drink::drink::drink:

Gladhe8er 09-22-2009 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 2958235)
In about 20 minutes I'm going practice lifting a 12 ounce bottle with my arm straight out and then I'm going open another and move it to the right about 8", drink that one to see if it gets easier or fatigues me to the point of going home to my wife..... :drink:

The Tuesday Booze...I like it!

Jassman 09-22-2009 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 2958235)
In about 20 minutes I'm going practice lifting a 12 ounce bottle with my arm straight out and then I'm going open another and move it to the right about 8", drink that one to see if it gets easier or fatigues me to the point of going home to my wife..... :drink:

We started an hour ago..raining...5'oclock somewhere.:drink:

my answers will only get better :grinser010:

ActiveThunder 09-22-2009 04:33 PM

Aren't you an hour behind me??

slboatdrinks 09-22-2009 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 2958235)
In about 20 minutes I'm going practice lifting a 12 ounce bottle with my arm straight out and then I'm going open another and move it to the right about 8", drink that one to see if it gets easier or fatigues me to the point of going home to my wife..... :drink:

I had a problem with moving to the right about 8".

It's empty......:eek:

Moved to the left a few feet and found the fridge. :drink::drink:

JeffC 09-22-2009 04:43 PM

And you guys say you keep one hand on the throttles and one on the wheel...LOL

ActiveThunder 09-22-2009 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by JeffC (Post 2958277)
And you guys say you keep one hand on the throttles and one on the wheel...LOL

That's why Jassby let's his wife drive.:party-smiley-004:

He just mans the fuel hose.

slboatdrinks 09-22-2009 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 2958278)
That's why Jassby let's his wife drive.:party-smiley-004:

He just mans the fuel hose.

And yet, he never seems to let the hose fill the tanks.....:evilb:

ActiveThunder 09-22-2009 04:54 PM

You do KNOW that you're gonna pay for that.

slboatdrinks 09-22-2009 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 2958286)
You do KNOW that you're gonna pay for that.

You started it. :party-smiley-004:

Jassman 09-22-2009 05:49 PM

I just wanted to say.....







I don't give a sh#t...it's happy hour and I'M there:drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::dr ink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::dri nk::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drin k::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink ::drink::drink::

SO:asskiss:

h2owarrior 09-22-2009 06:02 PM

Just got home from the office and turned on the computer..... and this is what I read:eek:

Keep up the great work:evilb:

Jassman 09-22-2009 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by h2owarrior (Post 2958328)
Just got home from the office and turned on the computer..... and this is what I read:eek:

Keep up the great work:evilb:


Thank You.. it's been a rough day,,,,but it's all better now.

ActiveThunder 09-22-2009 06:23 PM

My little buddy is probably out in the garage polishing his snow shovel, right Jeff?

Or perhaps his snow-blade on his John Deere tractor!

slboatdrinks 09-22-2009 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 2958345)
My little buddy is probably out in the garage polishing his snow shovel, right Jeff?

Or perhaps his snow-blade on his John Deere tractor!

This coming from a guy that asked why I had extra hooks (Plow frame) on the front of my F350.....

:ernaehrung004:

ActiveThunder 09-22-2009 06:30 PM

You haven't met Kevin yet.

slboatdrinks 09-22-2009 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 2958354)
You haven't met Kevin yet.

Another OCD?

ActiveThunder 09-22-2009 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by slboatdrinks (Post 2958357)
Another OCD?

Worse, But his wife is as much fun as OCDs!

Jassman 09-22-2009 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 2958359)
Worse, But his wife is as much fun as OCDs!

LMAO..aint that the truth...

Sydwayz 09-22-2009 07:12 PM

It's a good thing we have fun around these parts.

And Jeff (customryder);
If you would like, we'll build you a boat with an airbag in the steering wheel. :D :D (just kidding!!)

h2owarrior 09-22-2009 09:37 PM

I'm just glad I could provide some fodder:drink:

I did put a new cutting edge on the snow plow last week. Come to think of it, I changed the oil in the tractor and made sure it was in good order just in case in snows in the next few weeks.

It sucks being cold:drink:

The OCD stuff was a bit harsh:party-smiley-004:

misfit 09-22-2009 10:54 PM

Back to the engine thing. If I was going to build myself a 37, it would be with a pair of Ilmors. You get all the benefits of the 525s plus the horsepower of the 700s.

slboatdrinks 09-25-2009 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by JeffC (Post 2955059)
Hey guys, I have been looking at buying a new 37 from Pat. They are beautiful boats. I have always been a cigarette guy and i currently own one. But after reading all of ATs threads i feel like this is the biggest bang for the buck. I am flying to the factory next week and would like some insight on Pats Incredible Demo ride. LOL I am wondering if i need to prepare my wife for a heart attack...LOL

If everything goes well yall may have another member for the miami boat show run.

Opinions: 525 or 600

I heard the ride was a classic. :boat:

JeffC 09-25-2009 03:30 PM

Well the ride in the A.T. was everything yall said it would be. It is a great boat. Thanks to Clark for the use of his boat. It is very nice.

I was impressed how the boat handled the water and going in out of the inlet was a great experience also. It was nice to ride in a boat with someone that really knows how to drive. Pat definetly knows how to handle a boat.

Thanks for all the info that yall have given me and i will be making a decision on a purchase fairly soon.


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