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kreed 10-13-2010 08:17 AM

Staggered 1999 37ft. in CT.
 
Going to see the 1999 staggered boat this afternoon. This is the boat that spun out a few years back. Ive read all past posts reguarding the only staggered 37 built, and there's not alot of info on it. Mostly here-say. From what I gather, it sounds like a project boat. But I would like any info that you guys can offer. Weight,speeds,pros and cons, ect....Someone did text me some pix of the boat yesterday,didnt look horrible in pics....but we'll see. If its priced right, it may be my next ride. Ill take some pics and post them.

Gladhe8er 10-13-2010 09:05 AM

Interesting. What town is it out of? I've never seen it on the sound...

There was a thread about 2 monhts ago about staggerred AT's. I think only 1 or 2 were made and there was no difference in performance.

kreed 10-13-2010 09:41 AM

Branford. Staggered with 600's . Boat should run high 80s to 90 ,no?

laszlo01 10-13-2010 09:57 AM

Would like to see the pics of the stag set-up.

kreed 10-13-2010 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by laszlo01 (Post 3229432)
Would like to see the pics of the stag set-up.

Will do. Will post them tomorrow. Kinda hoping this boat is not junk.

Gladhe8er 10-13-2010 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3229420)
Branford. Staggered with 600's . Boat should run high 80s to 90 ,no?

The newer AT's run about 87 with 525's, so 90 should be doable if it is the same hull(I think it is, but somebody will confirm I'm sure).

SS930 10-13-2010 11:04 AM

This is obviously the same boat we were talking about on Monday... Looked pretty nice based on those limited pics I saw. So what does it need?

If you're up for waiting until Friday, I'd take a ride over there with you (I think I'm somewhat on the way as I'm only about 15 minutes east from Branford). No fears, I have my eye on that 42! :D

ActiveThunder 10-13-2010 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3229420)
Branford. Staggered with 600's . Boat should run high 80s to 90 ,no?

Ran 94 when new.

kreed 10-13-2010 11:30 AM

Dont know what it needs yet, but Ill let u know! Gotta go today, its the only time I have off. Leavin work in 1/2 hr to go. Will post pics and more info tonight...especailly if Im not interested! Hahaha.....Im not lookin for a project boat, dont mind alittle work,but I would like to take a break this winter. Probably should just keep the Bullet and be happy. :lolhit:

kreed 10-13-2010 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 3229506)
Ran 94 when new.

oh, thats interesting.

ActiveThunder 10-13-2010 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3229513)
oh, thats interesting.

Despite what may have happened she is a rock.

SS930 10-13-2010 12:03 PM

Sounds good Kevin.

So AT, what is the exact history on this one??? I vaguely recall hearing about the accident. What happened? Why was this a one and only setup, related???

Griff 10-13-2010 12:18 PM

600SC's are REAL thirsty.

ActiveThunder 10-13-2010 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3229546)
Sounds good Kevin.

So AT, what is the exact history on this one??? I vaguely recall hearing about the accident. What happened? Why was this a one and only setup, related???


:food-smiley-009::food-smiley-009::food-smiley-009:

At the time rumor was the water way was littered with empties...:eek:

kreed 10-13-2010 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3229554)
600SC's are REAL thirsty.

Yea, these 575 hp 454s in the Bullet hull are too. Almost 6k in fuel this summer. AT hull has to be more efficient than the Bullet.

SS930 10-13-2010 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 3229561)
:food-smiley-009::food-smiley-009::food-smiley-009:

At the time rumor was the water way was littered with empties...:eek:

Honestly, I think that's the case for most of us when we're on the water for the day, but seldom does this happen. Just wondering if there was a fundamental setup or design issue involved or not. Spins seem to happen a little more frequently with certain designs more so than others... stepped hulls, poor weight distribution, etc. Just wondering if this boat was a learning exercise, hence only one made...

ActiveThunder 10-13-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3229585)
Honestly, I think that's the case for most of us when we're on the water for the day, but seldom does this happen. Just wondering if there was a fundamental setup or design issue involved or not. Spins seem to happen a little more frequently with certain designs more so than others... stepped hulls, poor weight distribution, etc. Just wondering if this boat was a learning exercise, hence only one made...

The staggered handles the same as the SBS. The reason I don't push it is I saw no speed or handling advantage. Also the back seat was non-existant.

The story was they were running hard parellel to the shore and did an 'exit, stage right' at WOT. The rest is history.

SS930 10-13-2010 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 3229628)
The staggered handles the same as the SBS. The reason I don't push it is I saw no speed or handling advantage. Also the back seat was non-existant.

The story was they were running hard parellel to the shore and did an 'exit, stage right' at WOT. The rest is history.

Gotcha. Wasn't insinuating anything, just curious... Generally speaking the staggered boats tend to be a little better balanced and handle a little better. I've always though the differences are pretty minute and probably not worth the trade-off on already tight pleasure boats. On a race boat, I'm sure it's worth it. Not to mention they are soooo much easier to work on.

Thanks!

boatfreak 10-13-2010 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 3229506)
Ran 94 when new.

Well off the pace of 112 then.........:evilb:

Dino 10-13-2010 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by laszlo01 (Post 3229432)
Would like to see the pics of the stag set-up.

I'll show you a REAL stag set-up....and right down the street from you and its For Sale!:drink:

chuckbeecher 10-13-2010 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by boatfreak (Post 3229668)
Well off the pace of 112 then.........:evilb:

YOU RASCAL YOU!!:evilb::evilb:

ActiveThunder 10-13-2010 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by boatfreak (Post 3229668)
Well off the pace of 112 then.........:evilb:

It woulda run faster if my big butt wasn't behind the wheel! :eek:

ActiveThunder 10-13-2010 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by Dino (Post 3229673)
I'll show you a REAL stag set-up....and right down the street from you and its For Sale!:drink:

damn Cigarette trouble maker.....

You do know you are stirring the pot, right? Laz is going to be on your azz. :kiss:

ChristianGott 10-13-2010 07:24 PM

hey....
I'm pretty sure that's the Massey's boat. I watched it barrel-roll in Branford Harbor as they were swinging in to get in the channel. I don't recall the traffic that day, but I did wonder if they made the stepped-hull faux pas of trimming in instead of out to settle it down. I saw it back in the water and on land this year and it looked perfect. Any damage issues must have been resolved. It's a sweet boat. I used to see it every Friday on the way to the ramp, or at the garage off of Exit 56, and tell my kids that would be our next boat.
Good luck!
c

btw...I heard "Coronas"...

ICDEDPPL 10-13-2010 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3229554)
600SC's are REAL thirsty.

Thirsty for drives!:lolhit:

Gladhe8er 10-14-2010 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by ChristianGott (Post 3229834)
hey....
I'm pretty sure that's the Massey's boat. I watched it barrel-roll in Branford Harbor as they were swinging in to get in the channel. I don't recall the traffic that day, but I did wonder if they made the stepped-hull faux pas of trimming in instead of out to settle it down. I saw it back in the water and on land this year and it looked perfect. Any damage issues must have been resolved. It's a sweet boat. I used to see it every Friday on the way to the ramp, or at the garage off of Exit 56, and tell my kids that would be our next boat.
Good luck!
c

btw...I heard "Coronas"...

Did it land upside down and sink, or did it just hook and toss the passengers?

kreed 10-14-2010 07:04 AM

Well, I went to see this boat. I really liked it ALOT. I love the lines of the hull, staggered setup was pretty cool, and the reported speed was awesome.(95 MPH) Problem is, the boat needs some "restoring" inside the cockpit and cabin. Looks to be used alot, and not taken care of. Maybe not a big deal for some people, but Im not looking for a project. Thought about it all night and decided to move on to something needing less attention. Would like to find a older 37 AT(stepped) that needs alittle work or engine work. Cant afford anything new at this point. In the process of tryin to sell my Bullet. Anybody has an older 37 AT who wants to deal, let me know.

kreed 10-14-2010 07:17 AM

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pics, outside looks nice.

laszlo01 10-14-2010 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by Dino (Post 3229673)
I'll show you a REAL stag set-up....and right down the street from you and its For Sale!:drink:

LOL thanks Dino, dont even say its all in good fun or we will both be in big trouble this time. :lolhit:

kreed 10-14-2010 07:20 AM

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slboatdrinks 10-14-2010 07:47 AM

Kevin,

What's he asking?

Steve

laszlo01 10-14-2010 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3230131)
pics, outside looks nice.

WOW talk about zero back seat.

kreed 10-14-2010 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by slboatdrinks (Post 3230152)
Kevin,

What's he asking?

Steve

Steve, I didnt even get that far. I didnt talk to the owner directly. I talked to the owner of the facility were the boat is stored. He said they advertised it on Craigslist for 50K and not even a call. I would say in the 30's.

kreed 10-14-2010 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by laszlo01 (Post 3230156)
WOW talk about zero back seat.

Yes, because of the stagger set up, cockpit is very tight. But great for poker runs! No back seat, just stand up bolsters back there.

SS930 10-14-2010 08:31 AM

Too bad it wasn't what you're looking for. I may go look at it tomorrow (assuming you're cool with that) as it looks interesting. I'm not looking for a project either (god knows I have enough of those!), but I've always liked the 37 AT... plus I think 36 to 38 is just about the perfect size for my next boat.

I'll send you a PM...

crb76 10-14-2010 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3230160)
Steve, I didnt even get that far. I didnt talk to the owner directly. I talked to the owner of the facility were the boat is stored. He said they advertised it on Craigslist for 50K and not even a call. I would say in the 30's.

can you send contact info? I wonder if it is clear or salvaged title?

SS930 10-14-2010 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by crb76 (Post 3230191)
can you send contact info? I wonder if it is clear or salvaged title?

Hey, get in line! :lolhit:

laszlo01 10-14-2010 08:58 AM

Clark, it would make a pretty cool race boat !

Gladhe8er 10-14-2010 09:08 AM

If it can be bought in the 30's, that would be a great deal for someone who has some time to invest in cleaning it up. Probably need to be good with motors too cuz I have a feeling that you would not be sure what you are getting on that front(motors do not look 'fresh' in the least).

SS930 10-14-2010 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Gladhe8er (Post 3230208)
Probably need to be good with motors too cuz I have a feeling that you would not be sure what you are getting on that front(motors do not look 'fresh' in the least).

I would worry about them too. Dont know how those were addressed (if at all) after the incident either. You can see the rust on the outside... This boat is one of those projects that might not look all that bad on the outside, but could be much more significant after the outer layers are uncovered...


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