If you're not going to take it out in big water and mash waves, you may as well have bought a Fountain. You could go 15mph faster with the same power- on flat water.

You could be OK with Bravos and XR's would be even better. Konrads would be bulletproof. I like the idea of something I know I'm not going to have to dick with in a few years. And, best of all, they'll free you from the "F-ed by Mercruiser" experience.

Brochure says displacement. Whats the difference between displacement and weight?

My rig weighs 9100lbs full of gas on a trailer - done on the truck scales. Which is in line with the boat weighing 7000lbs

If you read his post he said he read that it was 9000lbs, not what bobby said.

OSO - where everybody is an expert at everything. You would think the brochure would be enough, or maybe actually owning one.........WTF? Its a 7000lb boat end of discussion.

Lucy's 41 only weighs 9500lbs.

Damn, that boat books at 39k.

I should have bought it and put the 14k in my pocket. :cool-smiley-011:

I should have bought it to use:cool-smiley-011:

Easy now.. I didnt go attacking you.. :party-smiley-004:

My bad, I must have read it a little too fast.. It I guess is possible for the 28, it just sounds light to me.. Base on some other stuff I have seen & had in here at our place.. Some boats the same length can weigh differently depending on whats in them..

Anyway, I just thought we were all rappin here & sharin ideas & just being happy for Bill on his new aquisition.. So back to the regularly scheduled program.. :) :) Jamie / Lakeside

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lol... :D


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Lucy's isn't a good comparison. That's probably the lightest race-layup Apache 41 ever produced. My 28 (TRS boat) weighed 8400 with 2/3rds fuel & junk on board. Boat, not trailer. Manufacturers are notorious for under-quoting on spec sheets. I have the original for my Cig 35 and it quotes a rigged weight 3,000 lbs below actual. We all know Apache was notorious for broad variances in weights- especially on the 41. I've seen 1500 lb differences between pleasure hulls. The 41 I have now weighs a thousand less than my old one- same boat, 1 model year different.

Displacement, in nautical terminology, is the actual weight of the vessel in the water. That's everything- boat, engines, fuel, contents, etc. Specifically it's a measurement the weight of the water the hull displaces while floating.

Don't piss down my back and tell me its raining:D

I'm happy for Bill too, but he needs to know the facts about his boat and if you tell him his boat weighs 9000lbs then he looks to upgrade the bravos and any other interested buyer may think the same, which hurts the resale on other 28's with bravos.

I love the idea of Konrads. But you just paid 25 for the boat, and i know you were looking for a good deal. I just didn't think you'd be wanting to spend another 30+ for Konrads on boxes. Cuz before you know it, with upgrades and wiring and new power, you'll be in around $85-90 in this boat.
25 boat
+30 konrads
+30 engines (new, or 18-20 in a good rebuild)
+5 rigging (jamie wont like that # :D)
+2 in misc gauges
you keeping the exhuast or going new?

I'm just putting some basic #s out there, i dont think i'm that far off. All i know is, thats alot to have in a 16-20yr old 28.
If that was you monetary intention, and will enjoy the boat like that, then its worth it.
Just my $0.02.