Originally Posted by caseyh

reading all this is making my head explode! is apache making boats today? or any other boat off the cig/apache hull being made today?

Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin

You've been backed into a corner by your own mouth. Your bluff has been called. You're unwilling to own up to the statements that you've made on here over the years.

I've given you a gold-plated opportunity to sit in front of the man you consistently have spoken disrespectfully about and diminished his accomplishments. I've given you the chance to first hand evaluate the capabilities of a boat that's design you've repeatedly mocked- without any first-hand knowledge. And it "doesn't interest" you. It interests you enough to bash it without really knowing anything about it, but you can't be troubled to come 5 miles from your home at your own convenience to see and run it? That doesn't say much about you then, does it?

As for your other comment, I've never been unfairly negative about OSO. I was mildly but fairly critical of the new owner's plethora of missteps in their early months. All of it 100% fair. When the site first sold I was one of those people imploring those who were concerned about the future to give it time. Those posts are still there for you to see should you care to look. Not until the wheels were coming off the wagon around here did anyone do anything to find a new home- and only when a total collapse looked imminent. As far as negativity about Apache? Are you serious? Nobody is a bigger fan. I just find your McManus bootlicking to be nauseating.

Your recent post is just another example of your typical behavior. Fabricate whatever you choose even when the history and the record goes against your thoughts.

The offer is still there- come out and put some actual experience behind all the drivel that you post.

Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin

More distraction. Nice.

It seems like your plan is to keep your a$$ firmly planted in your chair and continue to pass yourself off as an experienced boater.

As has been said many times, that's the problem with the internet. People passing themselves off as something they're not. You're a prime example. People come here hoping to get solid advice. Then they run across guys like you that post comments so authoritatively that they appear to know what they're talking about. But in truth, all you have is opinions. Opinions that are based solely on things conjured up in your own mind. And even when confronted with the opportunity to actually spend time in something other than your Barcalounger, you can't be troubled. You're some "expert", aren't you?

You keep talking $hit. I'll keep pointing out that you're the quintessential keyboard boater.

Enjoy your view from the beach!

Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin

But the boat speaks for itself- loudly and clearly. The bottom design is absolutely unique and works unimaginably well. When you full-lock turn it at 80, you're an instant believer.