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MikeyFIN 01-12-2013 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by nate (Post 3846274)
+1

First off, nothing against Saber. They are badass boats but i think about it like this. A kit car cobra (i.e Factory Five MK4) utilizes more advanced components arguably making its performance and build quality much better than an original Shelby AC cobra. However, we all know which car brings more money on the auction block. The kit car lacks the true history and direct tie to the man himself. Consequently, while the kit car remains a quality product, it is deemed less desirable and will forever remain less valuable. One may argue this example does not reflect the prices of Apaches vs. Sabers but the point I'm trying to make lies in the allure of an Apache vs. a Saber

So in other words If you wanna be 100% Racing, get the FFR Cobra or the Saber/Chief/Pantera then (and hope to be competitive against what's out there nowadays).
Don't see BobbyS rigging any old one of his to The London-Monte race.
If you wanna sit on it get the old Cobra/A41 and be loud about it's history in the parking lot/vintage race/poker run while the newer ones are making it, right ?
That's one of the reasons you do not see A41's racing much outthere anymore..except at Cowes recently. Nobody wants to be the one that's remembered breaking a vintage while running hard and that's not how Cobras or A41's where meant to live.

cfischer 01-12-2013 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by Nykamp (Post 3847073)
Both are great boats with an amazing ride, I used to detail a few Apaches and all the Sabers. I miss Jerry a ton, wish he was still here! These boats are all different , you can not compare any Apache to another because they where all done one off builts that there is likely no 2 alike. Floor height to every thing about the boat was custom built to the original owner specs. I am old school I like Apaches Kevlar lay up better, each to there own. Been in big water in both, my wife an I are in Clifford in the smoke video, great day with Jerry and Kristen. I hope somebody grabs Cliifford like Dan did with WW, and truly loves her like Jerry did and care for her.

wish i could buy your boat!! be a blast out here on the pacific!! lost my best friend a few months ago to that stupid war over seas so I know how you're feeling about missing your little bro!! Jerry was a great guy! hope all is well Steve!!

offshorexcursion 01-13-2013 08:26 PM

Saber

Nauti Kitty 01-14-2013 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by nate (Post 3846274)
+1

First off, nothing against Saber. They are badass boats but i think about it like this. A kit car cobra (i.e Factory Five MK4) utilizes more advanced components arguably making its performance and build quality much better than an original Shelby AC cobra. However, we all know which car brings more money on the auction block. The kit car lacks the true history and direct tie to the man himself. Consequently, while the kit car remains a quality product, it is deemed less desirable and will forever remain less valuable. One may argue this example does not reflect the prices of Apaches vs. Sabers but the point I'm trying to make lies in the allure of an Apache vs. a Saber

All good points and there is little argument about the prices. Apaches have historically held prices pretty good in a very bad market for a while now. That allure will never go away.
NK

offshoredrillin 01-14-2013 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 3847549)
wish i could buy your boat!! be a blast out here on the pacific!! lost my best friend a few months ago to that stupid war over seas so I know how you're feeling about missing your little bro!! Jerry was a great guy! hope all is well Steve!!

I still have his number in my cell, I spoke to him a week or so before he passed, never let on that he was sick. :(

SABER28 01-14-2013 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by Nauti Kitty (Post 3848771)
All good points and there is little argument about the prices. Apaches have historically held prices pretty good in a very bad market for a while now. That allure will never go away.
NK

guys that know me know im a big apache fan, been so since they were new but.....

look in the classified, would you pay even half of listed price for most of them?

other than a few very well kept ones most need major restorations costing way more than they would be worth done.

clifford will sell for a price close to asking and it needs nothing, whos in the 100k market for a boat with outdated drives and possibly needing fresh power?

kidapache 01-14-2013 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by SABER28 (Post 3848868)
guys that know me know im a big apache fan, been so since they were new but.....

look in the classified, would you pay even half of listed price for most of them?

other than a few very well kept ones most need major restorations costing way more than they would be worth done.

clifford will sell for a price close to asking and it needs nothing, whos in the 100k market for a boat with outdated drives and possibly needing fresh power?

you right they are not worth that big money any more im given mine away with out power and moving on to the next boat

SABER28 01-14-2013 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by kidapache (Post 3848898)
you right they are not worth that big money any more im given mine away with out power and moving on to the next boat

ok fine, can i have it? boats like cars are worth what someone will pay presently. dont be so defensive, i actually like your 41 but who is stepping up with 175k for it?

old saying: s h i t z in one hand and wish in another , then see what you end up with a handful of first.:lolhit:

kidapache 01-14-2013 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by SABER28 (Post 3848906)
ok fine, can i have it? boats like cars are worth what someone will pay presently. dont be so defensive, i actually like your 41 but who is stepping up with 175k for it?

old saying: s h i t z in one hand and wish in another , then see what you end up with a handful of first.:lolhit:

no power for way under $100k

SABER28 01-14-2013 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by kidapache (Post 3848910)
no power for way under $100k

ok, but... by the time you have motors and headers and trannys you are up there and still have drives that are outdated equipment.

for 175k clifford has modern power and build techniques and is bank financeable.

i think reality needs to set in, kind of like when i realized 25 year old women looked at me like a father figure and not a date for saturday night.:poopoo:


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