41 RAZZ Apache
08-12-2015 | 12:42 AM
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08-16-2015 | 04:14 PM
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The Italy boat can be bought for 65k.... Random surface drives though. Not run of the mill asd or 6's. NA 850's. Slap a fat blower on it make 1000. That's a 6 pack boat. Need a trailer though. That's the best Apache deal currently.
11-27-2015 | 01:22 AM
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It's sad to see RAZZ in the condition that it's in. Apaches are works of art in my opinion, and they all need to be saved. With the kind of work and money that's going to be required to get the boat restored, a zero may need to come off the right side of the asking price. Unless you have the levitating ability of Ed Leedskalnin that built Coral Castle, transporting RAZZ can be a costly issue.
This thread reminds me of when I worked as a technician servicing, repairing, and restoring European automobiles. On an occasion, I would get a customer asking me about my opinion on an "affordable Ferrari." For example, a 1985 308 Ferrari listed at something like $28k. I would tell the customer they're better off buying a $60k 308....and even then, expect to put maybe another $5k to $10k into it, if not more. The newest 308s are now 30 years old, and the days of repairing the minor gremlins have come and went, now it's due for the more major repairs due to sitting and aging in garages. It's the same situation for classic offshore boats; they fall into the wrong hands, trying to restore these machines on a shoestring budget, half-assing the quality, then when they're way over their head, they lose interest, and attempt to sell the mess they made....with the bonus 12 cardboard boxes of "Lots of Extra Parts Included." The other perplexing element is the lack of depreciating the asking price for the project/mess....they seem to always ask a price for their project boat that seems to include their premium for labor in destroying a great boat!!! Sometimes you can even see the desperation the owner is in...."Wife says the boat must go." After perhaps 2-3 months, the owner is living a life of hell, sleeping on the hide-a-bed sofa, and finally lowers the asking price to a reasonable level so he can sleep in master bedroom again.
This thread reminds me of when I worked as a technician servicing, repairing, and restoring European automobiles. On an occasion, I would get a customer asking me about my opinion on an "affordable Ferrari." For example, a 1985 308 Ferrari listed at something like $28k. I would tell the customer they're better off buying a $60k 308....and even then, expect to put maybe another $5k to $10k into it, if not more. The newest 308s are now 30 years old, and the days of repairing the minor gremlins have come and went, now it's due for the more major repairs due to sitting and aging in garages. It's the same situation for classic offshore boats; they fall into the wrong hands, trying to restore these machines on a shoestring budget, half-assing the quality, then when they're way over their head, they lose interest, and attempt to sell the mess they made....with the bonus 12 cardboard boxes of "Lots of Extra Parts Included." The other perplexing element is the lack of depreciating the asking price for the project/mess....they seem to always ask a price for their project boat that seems to include their premium for labor in destroying a great boat!!! Sometimes you can even see the desperation the owner is in...."Wife says the boat must go." After perhaps 2-3 months, the owner is living a life of hell, sleeping on the hide-a-bed sofa, and finally lowers the asking price to a reasonable level so he can sleep in master bedroom again.
01-14-2016 | 06:46 AM
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