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Tonight is another big night on Talkoffshore.com and Offshore Only. We have Kevin Roberts, new owner of Hawk Marine Power and his view of how and why he wants to resurect it's famous name in the offshore world after he aquired it from a controversial owner. We are going to follow his business plan throughout the year to see how he is doing. A reality show kind of look inside the rebuilding of a business if you will. We know a lot of you have plenty of questions for him and encourage you to call in and talk to Kevin and Martin.

The second segment is even bigger and deals with building a new business. Sean Stinson and world famous throttleman and boat builder Bob Saccenti of Apache fame talks to us about their new venture. Sean and Bob will give us their vision the new Chief Powerboats. Now is your chance to speak to one of the legends of offshore racing and ask all those question you have been wanting to ask him for years.

Kevin, Sean and Bob will be available for your live call in at 1-800-582-2150.





This should be good

the Wife doesnt let me near the phone late at night after the incident,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh forget I mentioned that:D

Ladies and Gentlemen.....Welcome to tonight's maaaaiiiinnnn event.

In this corner the challengers....The two self proclaimed guru's of the boat design world.

And in this corner.......well you know the rest!!!

LLLeeeeeeeeeeetttttttttttttttttsssssssssssss get rrrreeeeeaaaaaddyyyy to rumble

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Bummer! Moved!

Sean,

I gotta say your glasses need some cleaning. Since we talked I've looked at that picture you showed me and it sure isn't an Active DDC step. I can't quite figure out what exactly it is but I know it isn't that.

What's up with those bow strakes though?

Carl,
If they would leave that white sticky **** out of the middle twinkies would be fine. From what I understand on here from Steve, it's not so much what the core material is, but the type of glass that you wrap it in. I just bought a second hand chopper gun on e-bay, so, looks like we are full steam ahead with SOUIX CITY POWERBOATS, the fastest lightest powerboat made, PERIOD.

Robert

They are the new generation anti stuff strake.

But I do stand corrected on the step design sorry Steve. Again just ruffling

Stinson,
You were suppose to ruffle the ruffles on you tux when you got married, not the headdresses of the CHIEFS of the powerboat industry, dumbass.

Robert

While Thad is selling t shirts at the flea market, and indulging in nonsense lawsuits look at what the competition is offering. Cigarette's new 42X. It already has a new owner.

Now that's a boat.:D

:D :D :D

But it was so much fun, bro.

But it sure did bring some more of that stunned silence that is so very reassuring......

I must disagree, the white sticky **** would help cushion the impact of reentry when it gets rough.

We are stepping over the bounds of good taste here. Put the racism stuff away. It's not about that.....

I actually believe that Thad Allen invested in the Apache name because of a love for the sport. He did or still does believe he can resurrect a great name today in bad economic times based on a legend and a love for the sport. The same love we all share for running off-shore. The same love I shared when I entered this boat building arena.

He got mislead by what he was buying but through no fault of his own. Forget a 'due-dillegence' excuse and blaming lawyers and accountants.

He's wet behind the ears. He was enticed into the venture but only through this love and the silver-plated crap he was handed through steve and steve.

I've only recently become to know Bobby, Sean and Scott and a few others through this mess. Stan Gordon, a true gentleman, Fred Cecil, A real junkie. Bosco and a few others. It's been educational, exceptionally interesting and something I will never forget.

The same goes for the twin steves. They are amusing. But neither one knows anything about building a boat.

However these 2 guys are the best at milking investors, milking paychecks, and producing absolutely nothing worth anything to anybody I have ever met. Including myself.

Take it for what it's worth.

My name is Patrick Haughey and I own Active Thunder Boats. I am neither a great boat- builder, a great designer or a great promoter. I hate children and grandmothers but I try to tell the truth.

And I wake up everyday wanting to go out the inlet and not go to work.

The same goes for the twin steves. They are amusing. But neither one knows anything about building a boat.

However these 2 guys are the best at milking investors, milking paychecks, and producing absolutely nothing worth anything to anybody I have ever met.





OUCH That's gotta hurt!!!:eek: :eek:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ActiveThunder
[B]We are stepping over the bounds of good taste here. Put the racism stuff away. It's not about that.....



Point taken Pat. Just was showing he's not a gentleman.



Hey what happened to Moment of Truth?

You out there man it's starting to get boring in here.

Good post Pat

Nice post Pat

Lets do lunch this week

Bobby Saccenti

There is something very satisfying about going out that inlet

Carl,
Good point, I will take that into consideration when I am doing my design work. I will mock up some test panels and do a hydostatic test.

Hey Stinson,
I was having a brainstorm this morning, why don't we put them hydro foil thingys on the boat to lift it out of the water? That way we could really go out in the ruff stuff. You know, make them hydraulicly adjustable, cool huh?

Robert

Pat-

Very positive, very nice post. Thank you for enlightening some of the people that aren't in the know, because you are an actual employer of some of these people, and you know the truth. It is nice to hear someone with a first class personality and business ethic.

Thanks again
Terra & Sean Stinson

Now there is another enlightening moment of truth.
I'm surprized that there has been no opposing views posted concerning this statement.

Pat you have added another dimension to the plot!

Hey Robert
We can get those things on a great deal from "The Underground Balloon Club" they tell me the yaw and the yee work absolutely spectacular when trying to fly the tight constraints of the caverns of bats. Our Commodore Vic 20 computer system will power it just fine. If not we can step up to the Commodore 64 system for the auto hydraulic trim settings.

Sean

the dimension hasn't changed in two years.....only my attitude. And I have had enough. And I will take no more.

Imagine that!:rolleyes:

I think your patent number is incorrect... here is a picture of patent 36879.. it is for an india rubber shell wad.....:confused:

that one is to help shoot yourself in the foot.:D

donut forget ,before he pouted thad told mcmanus he had a choice,sell the logo and rights that go with or i will bury you in legal fees.no doubt thug knew what he was doing.

Very good. At least the watchdogs are paying attention. And yeah, Buck my foot is hurtin'. Now I just hope I don;t have to change all the webpages with the numbers on them!

Alright let's try this: http://schoellmarine.com

OK.... after doing a further search... it isn't patent #36879... it is RE#36879.. which is a reissue of patent # 5456202... that is a valid patent number for Harry L Schoell... if you read the claims and specifications.... the patent claims are about stability at displacement speeds and the step introducing air under the hull to break suction or friction and the chine to keep spray off the occupants of the boat...... it is a valid patent....:cool:

I'll change feet then :rolleyes:

Wow, moving to the Apache forum really kills a post. Well anyways, the worlds dumbest lawsuit will be ruled on probably this year. Mark M is patient, and is in for the long haul. After Thad "I want to be an offshore player, however, I can't seem to build a boat, but I'm the worlds best businessman" Allen loses and has to change the name of his company, maybe he'll go away. We can only hope :)

I'm not privvy to all the facts... so I won't comment... other than to say it certainly is a mess...... :snide:

I guess that must be the reason all of the proponents of Thad's camp have taken their leave.
I felt surely the comment about the Twin Steve's abilities would turn my monitor into a I.E.D. Not a peep.
As far as court goes, I wish McManus the best.
The Apache's McManus built are the best rough water boats on the Jersey shore.

Re: Apache in the West Palm Beach news
 

its just a moment of silence for moment of truth .

Re: Apache in the West Palm Beach news
 

Thats because all the fun went to this site...no censorship there.http://www.offshorepowerboat.com/for...er=asc&start=0

Re: Apache in the West Palm Beach news
 

Well, it seems I have entered an invalid user name and password, to get on the site. I guess Jack is controlling who he lets on his site.

Anyways, here's my take on the deal. Marc McManus built/builds great offshore boats,I know I got one. For ANYONE to come in and think just because they are a good businesman that they can build a great offshore boat, they are sadly misstaken.

Thad, if you read all this, you need to go get youself some seat time in a REAL offshore boat and stop listening to people who are telling yo false truths.

If you want to go out, I'll be glad to take you out. I think my buddy Jim Dietz said something about it cost about $2000.00 an hour to run one of these boats, between engine maintaince, drive maintaince, and overall upkeep. I know I just spent $60,000.00 between new engines and having the drives rebuilt and this is on a 13 year old boat, but it's better than anything yo got, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha

Robert