Apache in the West Palm Beach news
 

What a joke.......he hasn't built $$$$!!!

"I'm almost starting to regret getting into this," said Allen, who has plans to sue the two businessmen who sold him the Apache trademark in April 2003. "I'm starting to think this is a freaking headache. All I wanted to do was build a quality boat."

For somebody who knows how to run business' so well, you would think that he would have researched the company he was buying. Not like there is a lack of info dealing with Apache.

fill er up

so whats in the name:D :D :D

FREE KRAMER!
:D

Mike No right but they do !!"a dozen employees at his Apache Powerboats are custom-building racing boats -- and attempting to rebuild history"

There is a simular article in this issue of PRA. Says about the same, But they do show a photo of his T-Shirt collection !! :D :D :D

Now this sounds entertaining!:D
Even my buddy Jack made the news... I can't believe he'd be involved with something shady like this.:(





So anyway...
I'll have an extra large popcorn (extra butter), large Coke, one bag of Twizlers, and a Milky Way bar please! Second thought, give me two of the extra large popcorn orders please!:D

He wanted to build a quality boat...So he let Bobby go?
Isn't that like wanting to make a really good pizza, so you fire Wolfgang Puck?WTF?
Sorry, us Italians only know one analogy!

Nice...I'm sure we all have a lot more confidence now, than before. :rolleyes:

What does a logo have to do with building a boat?

is Jayl13 still with them. just curious actually.

Ron i was thinking the same thing. make a lateral move on the name thing and get some boats out there . from what i have seen so far it should be one hell of a boat. i know they wanted to build under Apache but at this point wonder if its just best to just cut their losses and get somthing out there.

No he is not.

I was thinking the same thing.

Although he has a Plan B that he declined to discuss ready to go if the judge rules against him, Allen says he's confident he'll win but frustrated with the process.




Get Plan B ready. You will need it.

"I don't know how to build a boat," Allen said.

That's obvious.


"I know how to run a business."


Not the way it looks so far.:rolleyes:

All this BS could end by just producing ONE STINKING BOAT!!!!!!! If it's a quality product, the word will get out....really fast!! How long does it take a dozen people to build one boat?


What a phucktard!! Thats an azzload of advertising $$ that's been wasted.:drool: :drool:

They stiffed Jay, He put his house up for sale, leased an Apartment in Boynton, helped them out at the Miami Show, then they told him his services were no longer needed. Well He will be OK, I have been helping him put the Baja Back together, and it is getting there, He found work last week, Building Houses, NOT boats!!! Actually, He will be doing some computer junk for a Custom Home Builder down here in South Florida, We all know that is a much more stable business, than working for APACHE.

Yeah I dont work there anymore.
subsequently I stopped over there today to get money that they owed me, and they do have the molds done for the hull, deck, hatches everything and are starting to lay some epoxy glass.
I wish them well and Yes I now work for a custom home builder as their manager of IT department. Lets just say my time in the boating industry was short and sweet.
The boat will be interesting to see since all i have seen is plugs for months and months.
Steve1, LOL they were choppin up the plugs today with sawzaws and sledge hammers, makes you want to cry from all the work that went into it.
Jason

Good to hear from ya, Jay!
Best of luck!

So, how's Florida treatin' ya?...

:cool:

Shane,
It's taken you 32 years to ask where the $ is???:confused:

They didn't run the plug to see how the bottom worked? Most companies make all their changes to the running plug before making a mold.

Maybe they got it perfect the on the first try.:crazy:

And i hear they also stiffed him on his Pay :rolleyes:

I Wonder how long the other employees will stay "custom-building racing boats -- and attempting to rebuild history" when they go home without a paycheck ????

sorry to hear about that Jay. the boating industry is a tough place to be sometimes. glad to hear you were able to find somthing else down there. every time i get down to FLA it gets harder and harder to come back up north. have a good one :cool:


hows the Baha by the way

Jay how are you ??

Yo Mark!
what up bro?

Since I was "stiffed" as the others so eloquently put it, I dont know what testing or anything they did on the plugs, molds, cadd designs nothing.
I KNOW NOTHING
I do know that I did get paid finally which is what i was most concerned with.

Jason

Oops

"I'm almost starting to regret getting into this," said Allen, who has plans to sue the two businessmen who sold him the Apache trademark in April 2003. "I'm starting to think this is a freaking headache. All I wanted to do was build a quality boat."


:eek: :eek: Wonder who he is talking about

Here are the two registered Apache Powerboat logos

Word Mark APACHE POWERBOATS
Goods and Services IC 025. US 022 039. G & S: CLOTHING
IC 012. US 019 021 023 031 035 044. G & S: Boats. FIRST USE: 19800200. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19800600

Mark Drawing Code (3) DESIGN PLUS WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS
Design Search Code 010103 010109 020101 020102 020109 020133
Serial Number 76126168
Filing Date September 11, 2000
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Owner (APPLICANT) Apache Boats, Inc. CORPORATION FLORIDA 3161 NE 188 St. North Miami Beach FLORIDA 33180
Attorney of Record Stevan Lieberman
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE



Word Mark APACHE POWERBOATS
Goods and Services IC 012. US 019 021 023 031 035 044. G & S: BOATS; BOATS AND STRUCTURAL PARTS THEREFOR
IC 016. US 002 005 022 023 029 037 038 050. G & S: DECALS; POSTERS

IC 018. US 001 002 003 022 041. G & S: ALL PURPOSE SPORT BAGS; ALL PURPOSE ATHLETIC BAGS

IC 025. US 022 039. G & S: CLOTHING INCLUDING SHIRTS, T-SHIRTS, SWEATSHIRTS, JACKETS

IC 037. US 100 103 106. G & S: MAINTENANCE, REPAIR AND RESTORATION OF BOATS

IC 040. US 100 103 106. G & S: MANUFACTURE OF BOATS AND BOAT PARTS TO THE ORDER AND/OR SPECIFICATION OF OTHERS

Mark Drawing Code (3) DESIGN PLUS WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS
Design Search Code 010103 010109 020101 020109 020131 031702 260102 260111
Serial Number 76566701
Filing Date December 23, 2003
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Mark McManus, Inc. CORPORATION FLORIDA 15821 Chief Court Fort Myers FLORIDA 33912
Attorney of Record Jeffrey A. Smith
Prior Registrations 0706228
Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "POWERBOATS" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Type of Mark TRADEMARK. SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Nice Picture of Mark next to his 50 on the front page.

Good Steve, Finally got a new job, working for a custom home builder here in Ft laud.
Was rough for a little while but I survived.
All i could do was think of how hard you worked on those plugs and they were choppin them up like mad.
How you doing Steve?
Ummm so tell me, whats the insignia by your name now?
Jason

one of the two

.

From what I have seen and have read and the time frame that all this so called building has been going on PLUS the fact that McManus owns the copyright it does not look to promising now does it?
It is a big mess no doubt and I for one would not feel comfortable ordering a boat...who would? Fever Mike

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Hi Mike let me answer this way it was the end of Sept beginning of Oct when it got started in Del-ray I have been done for 2 Months .. The question remains; is How Long does it take to build a high end set of tooling including the enormous amount of fairing?? Ps I am known for flawless work !!

Jay hi good to hear from you,, and You are OK !! You will love Florida ..Myself things have been real good ..That is the Cheetah Avatar..

Damn moved on already, well I wish you the best with your new gig.
GlassDave;
Yeah, just have to rig the Baja for salt water now, flush kits, change the zinc's and Rick and I ripped out the steering 2 weeks ago, going to order new system to put in, then the dash, gauges, some minor electircal, and going to rebuild trim rams then off to prop test with Julie at Throttle up Propellors and she should be good.
Jason

Jay I do work for three Co's Now I chose to work on my Own stuff.. I will give you a link when everything is complete.

Take Care Buddy and My best Regards

It was a pleasure,
A real short pleasure but a pleasure none the less.
Talk soon

Jason

If Thad "owned" the Apache name and Logo why did he try to buy it from Mark McManus ??????? hmmmm

I sure hope Plan B is a good one.

LOL he said he doesn't know how to build boats, but he knows how to run a business ?????

Well, he got that about half right. Plus, thats just what the general public wants to hear from somebody they are thinking about buying a boat from. "I dont know anything about boat building but I can run the hell out of a Taco Bell, construction company, or the local muffler shop ect ect ect. I'm gona buy my next car from my dentist, who has a MBA and is a very good businessman. yikes.
You get the picture.

Finally, To build a quality boat he had to ask Bob Saccenti to leave ??????? Excuse me. It should have been the other way around. Forgive me if i'm wrong, but Bob Saccenti was working in the boat business while this guy was still filling diapers.

Re: LEGAL Question about someone acting on behalf of a company
 

Don't know what I can help with, but the recruiter acts as the agent for the firm they represent. Unless the recruiter was lying about the bonus structure I don't think there is any recourse. The bonus structure is usually laid out in the employee manual, and can be given in writing if the employee request's. A Bonus is not guaranteed unless given in writing.

Re: Apache in the West Palm Beach news
 

That was a good read. Sounds like Thad went fishing and hooked himself right in the wallet. Sue everybody, even Mcmanus who had nothing to do with him.
Also, it seems Mcmanus has quite the reputation as a meticulous boatbuilder. I doubt Thad could sue him out of that. It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out in court.